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Alan Keyes among 21 arrested at Notre Dame
WGN ^ | 5/8/09 | Liam Ford

Posted on 05/08/2009 11:56:37 AM PDT by KLT

Edited on 05/08/2009 12:41:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Alan Keyes among 21 arrested at Notre Dame May 8, 2009 1:29 PM Former Illinois U.S. Senate candidate Alan Keyes and 20 other protesters were arrested this morning when they refused to leave the Notre Dame campus during a protest of President Obama's upcoming commencement address there, a university spokesman said.


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To: LibertyRocks
That may be the ONLY objection I would have. Not in SHOWING the pictures, but in being responsible in the hows and whens if at all possible because it could be traumatic for children especially...

Kids need to be taught what to fear. I saw such pictures also when I was a kid. When I was about 19 I saw another picture actual footage of many brave men getting killed in the line of duty fighting one of the worst shipboard fires in the history of the U.S. Navy. It was required viewing. It was very graphic and uncut. Once you saw it you understood what happened and how to prevent or limit it from happening again. I saw that film a half a dozen times as I was also an onboard fire fighter.

I've read the Bible since my early childhood. Although at times I have strayed from it I still believe in the Gospel and try to live in The Word. OK here's my point. All Christians know and understand Christ was nailed to the cross as most of us have read it many times over. Yet seeing it enacted in a movie like "The Greatest Story Ever Told, Jesus of Nazareth, or even The Gospel Road, reminds me in a way words can't of the reality of His pain and suffering. It's not something I would do every day as the mind can become desensitized to such but once a year is or so is healthy.

Kids at a certain age need to be told and shown the truths of life for their own sake. A kid at age 12 should be shown the abortion pictures. Do so just as a preacher from time to time still needs to preach about hell and eternal damnation although many now days don't. I survived many a sermon on that matter as a child. It gave me something to fear and to think about even now in my 50's.

221 posted on 05/08/2009 6:23:19 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: wagglebee

Post 221 is my reply. I didn’t see your post till after I answered the other one.


222 posted on 05/08/2009 6:26:24 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Great post!


223 posted on 05/08/2009 6:28:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: JennysCool

What was the March for Life in DC? last January? Something like 200,000 people? Nary a word on the nightly news.


224 posted on 05/08/2009 6:32:21 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: JennysCool
I'm sorry, but I think that kind of stuff isn't useful at all. It just turns people off, rather than changing hearts and minds. Leave that sort of thing to the Code Pink harpies.

You sort of make a point in that the style is reminiscent of Code Pink. But what is interesting and different is that Code Pink depicts lies and exaggerations and what was being depicted here is an accurate representation of what is happening to human lives and is real and true. But an interesting thing to think about - what style is effective and what is not.

225 posted on 05/08/2009 6:45:50 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: cva66snipe

I can find NOTHING to object to in your post, honestly. I can find much in common with your feelings, too. I have decided the same about the necessity of seeing them at some point... Once my four daughters each reached the beginnings of puberty, I covered that all with them, and more as they grew up (We home-school so it’s like my “job” as well as my responsibility as their mother, and at least they don’t have to sit through any boring or embarrassing “health classes”, either! LOL)

In a couple months birthday-wise the count will be 3 teens and 1 pre-teen — pray for my husband and I! LOL (No, seriously... especially my husband. :) )

All of my children are Pro-Life, just like I was/am. For that I am very grateful.


226 posted on 05/08/2009 7:05:17 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: cva66snipe; wagglebee

Please also see my response wagglebee, after you read 66’s post! LOL
It’s at #266


227 posted on 05/08/2009 7:11:18 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: KLT

God bless all these people for protesting!


228 posted on 05/08/2009 7:14:10 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: biggiepaul

I watched some of those. Keyes smoked 0bama in the debates I saw.


229 posted on 05/08/2009 7:15:32 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: KLT

—Don’t mess with Al...—

Nope. He might actually get twenty percent of the vote—on a good day.


230 posted on 05/08/2009 8:10:36 PM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Lorica

The people who get their info solely from ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN will never be allowed to see anything which casts doubt on the socialist agenda.


231 posted on 05/08/2009 8:12:12 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: ExSoldier

Political “theater” probably turns off a lot more people than it wins over. It just makes the “actors” feel like they’ve done something profound.


232 posted on 05/08/2009 8:13:18 PM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: ExSoldier

Agreed. Histrionics makes us appear nutty. Even nuttier than code pink. Bloody dolls will not gain us sympathy. It will backfire and gain Obama sympathy.


233 posted on 05/08/2009 8:40:37 PM PDT by publana (How'd that trip into dummyland work out for ya, Arlen?)
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To: LibertyRocks

I agree that there is nothing necessarily dishonorable about “civil disobedience” and there are times, such as these, where that may be the only course of action when a person, or group of citizens, are trying to change a law or legislation.

I looked up the definition of “civil disobedience” (as I can’t always trust my memory). The definition is: “Refusal to obey civil laws in an effort to induce change in governmental policy or legislation, characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means.”

The definition of “civil law” is, “The body of laws of a state or nation dealing with the rights of private citizens..

Notre Dame has its own “private” rules. It appears that the protest Alan Keyes participated in took place on “private property”. He was not breaking a “civil law”, per se, he was trespassing on private property.

The protest wasn’t wrong. The message wasn’t wrong. The way they went about protesting was. Again, that’s just my opinion. I don’t like it when the left-wing wackos disrespect private property in order to get their message across so I’d be a hypocrite if I said it was o.k. as long as the protest was one that I agreed with.

It is one thing to get attention for one’s cause. It is quite another to get the wrong kind of attention. The MSM will play this as a small group of wackos who trespassed and had to be arrested. I do not see how that in any way helps our cause.


234 posted on 05/08/2009 8:59:01 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: Balding_Eagle

“I think you’re right, but you are trying to make a moral equivalency between the Leftists and us.

My gripe would be based on the fact that generally, Lefties are given a pass, (just look at how the Lefties who tore down the crosses protesting abortion back in February were recently honored for their contributions to the debate, and how the Lefties who shut down Tancredo’s speech just a couple weeks ago are going scott free, including the professor who organized and gave extra credit for the ‘protestors’, thugs really) and conservatives are held to the law, or even held to the standards of the arresting policeman that may very well far exceed the law.”

If that was what I have done (make a moral equivalency), that was not my intention. I agree with you that the lefties are given a free pass. It is blatant, it is sickening. However, how can I stand on moral ground if I believe that because they get away with it, I should to?

I do not want to be like them. Ever.


235 posted on 05/08/2009 9:04:29 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

President Obama will deliver a speech on June 4 in Egypt
on America’s relationship with Muslims
CNN | 5/8/2009 | Staff
Posted on 05/08/2009 12:03:50 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2247110/posts


236 posted on 05/08/2009 9:06:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: hoosierham
The people who get their info solely from ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN will never be allowed to see anything which casts doubt on the socialist agenda.

They are truly a braindead bunch, being lead by liberal media lunatics..

237 posted on 05/08/2009 9:12:27 PM PDT by KLT (A damn Yankee, from the great state of Mississippi....Go Freepers Go!)
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To: CaribouCrossing

A good angle I hadn’t considered in all honesty... I had begun to when I mentioned the outside of the property — that property adjoining where it is public.

What I would encourage and I do know is happening are the students, faculty members (if possible), donors, alumni. Everyone regularly permitted to be on grounds to protest the event “in person” so to speak as long as THAT doesn’t break the rules... I’m sure there are quite a few Pro-Life alumni from over the years...


238 posted on 05/08/2009 9:29:37 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: KLT

It makes me want to go there.


239 posted on 05/08/2009 9:30:49 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34

The local chapter should definately make an appearance...


240 posted on 05/08/2009 9:35:10 PM PDT by KLT (A damn Yankee, from the great state of Mississippi....Go Freepers Go!)
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