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Here's How Israel Would Destroy Iran's Nuclear Program
Haaretz ^ | May 21, 2009 | By Reuven Pedatzur

Posted on 05/30/2009 7:52:04 AM PDT by Strategy

Israeli government ministers and Knesset members who will help make the decision about whether to attack Iran's nuclear facilities do not have to wait any longer for a preparatory briefing by the Israel Air Force.

They can read about all the possible scenarios for a strike on Iran, and about the potential risks and chances of success, in a study by Abdullah Toukan and Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bho44; bombbombbombbombiran; iran; islam; israel; military; nuclear; obama; saudiarabia; syria; waronterror
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1 posted on 05/30/2009 7:52:05 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

Here’s how Israel would destroy....

“Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom!”


2 posted on 05/30/2009 7:57:36 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: Strategy
From the articls:

It is clear to everyone that no one will dare attack Iran once it possesses nuclear weapons.

On the face of it, that seems to not necessarily be so. America, which has a nuclear arsenal, was attacked.

3 posted on 05/30/2009 8:00:08 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Strategy

Bump for later read!


4 posted on 05/30/2009 8:01:01 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Strategy

Written in April 2006 by Mark Steyn

Facing Down Iran-Our lives depend on it.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110008231


5 posted on 05/30/2009 8:01:36 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: RobinOfKingston
On the face of it, that seems to not necessarily be so. America, which has a nuclear arsenal, was attacked.

Key difference; Iran would be willing to use them.
6 posted on 05/30/2009 8:04:35 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Winstons Julia

I believe it goes like: Boom. Boom. POW! Boom. Boom. POW!


7 posted on 05/30/2009 8:04:42 AM PDT by classified
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To: Winstons Julia
I have given this a lot of thought. The Iranians have hardened their nuclear facilities to the point that a conventional bombing campaign will not destroy them. thus, only a nuclear attack by Israel will be effective. The US would go ape. So Israel’s only option—EMP attack. Black-out Iran for a few years. Then repeat as needed.
8 posted on 05/30/2009 8:06:37 AM PDT by fogofbobegabay
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To: Renderofveils
Willing smilling, if Israel nukes their nuke sites and their government they have nothing to hit back with. Iran is subject to splendid first strike and will be for a decade or more. Iran's will in the matter is utterly irrelevant, as is its physical capabilities. Moral cowardice in the west is the only operating factor in any of it.
9 posted on 05/30/2009 8:07:39 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Strategy
empty promises about the ability of the Arrow missile defense system to contend effectively with the Shahab-3
Who wrote this article, Barry Obama?
10 posted on 05/30/2009 8:07:44 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: fogofbobegabay
How about just not giving a damn what the US says or thinks? "Going ape" - the US would in fact do nothing. It isn't doing anything about Iran and it won't do anything about Israel either. It will moralize and posture and sit on its collective backside. Moral cowards simply do not matter. For anything.
11 posted on 05/30/2009 8:09:35 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Strategy

Oh... Israel’s version of the NYSlimes.


12 posted on 05/30/2009 8:16:13 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: JasonC

Obama will react the same way all democrats do.... with a sternly worded letter.


13 posted on 05/30/2009 8:22:09 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Strategy

Interesting analysis, but boy do I disagree with the following:

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This is the place to emphasize Israel’s mistake in hyping the Iranian threat. The regime in Tehran is certainly a bitter and inflexible rival, but from there it’s a long way to presenting it as a truly existential threat to Israel. Iran’s involvement in terror in our region is troubling, but a distinction must be made between a willingness to bankroll terrorists, and an intention to launch nuclear missiles against Israel. Even if Iran gets nuclear weapons, Israel’s power of deterrence will suffice to dissuade any Iranian ruler from even contemplating launching nuclear weapons against it.

It is time to stop waving around the scarecrow of an existential threat and refrain from making belligerent statements, which sometimes create a dangerous dynamic of escalation. And if the statements are superfluous and harmful - then this is doubly true for a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

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Given the theology of the whackjobs in Iran (Putin was stunned after his visit with Ahmadinenutjob) the thinking that MAD or some variant thereof is a real deterrent is to me at least a real mistake. These guys believe they can survive at least partially an all out nuke exchange with Israel and in the process wipe Israel out to the extent it ceases as a nation. It’s an easier assumption to make when you’re sitting in Washington.

Underestimating the hatred and radicalism of an opponent in a situation such as this can have disasterous consequences.


14 posted on 05/30/2009 8:27:19 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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Excerpt from http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110008231

Back in his student days at the U.S. embassy, young Mr. Ahmadinejad seized American sovereign territory, and the Americans did nothing. And I would wager that’s still how he looks at the world. And, like Rafsanjani, he would regard, say, Muslim deaths in an obliterated Jerusalem as worthy collateral damage in promoting the greater good of a Jew-free Middle East.

The Palestinians and their “right of return” have never been more than a weapon of convenience with which to chastise the West. To assume Tehran would never nuke Israel because a shift in wind direction would contaminate Ramallah is to be as ignorant of history as most Palestinians are: from Yasser Arafat’s uncle, the pro-Nazi Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during the British Mandate, to the insurgents in Iraq today, Islamists have never been shy about slaughtering Muslims in pursuit of their strategic goals.


15 posted on 05/30/2009 8:36:03 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Strategy

Israeli deterrence in the face of an Iranian nuclear threat has a good chance of succeeding precisely because the Iranians have no incentive to deal a mortal blow to Israel.”

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Seems to me the incentive is to bring about the appearance of the 12th Imam. How much the Mullahs go along with the whack job on this is open to debate. The authors are attributing to Iran’s current leadership more rationality than I believe is warranted. Again, these are very risky assumptions if you’re Israel, not so much if you’re a remotely located third party.


16 posted on 05/30/2009 8:37:13 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: listenhillary

Agreed, Muslims slaughter one another when there’s no infidels handy or they’ll gladly use fellow Muslims as fodder (including women and children) if it gives them any type of advantage against the infidel.

These authors are making the same mistake that many have made in the past dealing with tyrants. That somehow they’re just like the rest of us and if we continue to appease and give them what they want they can ultimately be reasoned with. This seems to be the path this administration is taking and is asking Netanyahu and Israel to take.


17 posted on 05/30/2009 8:45:08 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: fogofbobegabay
I have given this a lot of thought....Israel’s only option—EMP attack...

You need to give this more thought. An EMP attack is only good against someone vulnerable to one...a society that is dependent on electronics and micro-circuitry for its necessary infrastructure, like the US or Europe...I dont think Iran, a society where people still live in mud and straw brick homes and use oil lamps, fails into that catagory.

18 posted on 05/30/2009 8:48:20 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Renderofveils
Key difference; Iran would be willing to use them.

The point I poorly made is that there are many ways to attack, not all of them obvious enough to be actionable.

19 posted on 05/30/2009 8:59:37 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Magnum44
No electricity: No oil well pumps, no oil ports, no air force, on air-defense, no centerfuges-NO BOMB.
20 posted on 05/30/2009 9:00:30 AM PDT by fogofbobegabay
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