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Forbidden Arkeology: "The Riddle Of Ararat"
Fortean Times ^ | By Robin Simmons

Posted on 06/13/2009 3:58:37 AM PDT by Fennie

There's a well-known account of ten year old Georgie Hagopian, who saw Noah's Ark while climbing Ararat with his uncle in 1904. The date isn't precise but this was around the time my grandfather was in the region and heard convincing stories of the Ark, preserved in ice and snow, still occasionally visible.

My grandfather died in 1980, aged 106. As a boy, I listened to his adventures as a doctor in Eastern Turkey and Russia between 1904 and 1910. He worked in the very shadow of Greater Ararat - the legendary Biblical landing place of Noah's ship.

My grandfather said some of the Kurds and Armenians he treated confided that the great Ark was preserved on Ararat. They said, it's "high on the northern side, a little below the saddle" of the twin-peaked dormant volcano.

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1 posted on 06/13/2009 3:58:37 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Ahh, wouldn’t the evolutionists just love it if the ark were found?


2 posted on 06/13/2009 4:19:06 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: RoadTest

Localized flood. Nothing to see here - just old rotten wood. Move along now.


3 posted on 06/13/2009 4:20:43 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: Fennie

Pure Rubbish.

Noah’s Ark

Muzzie Traditions about the Ark

WWII tales

SR71 Blackbird Flights

Nephilim- daughters of man

deception of the Antichrist that precedes the Second Coming


4 posted on 06/13/2009 4:22:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: Fennie; All

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark.htm
Apparently there is a government park in Turkey that has been declared the site of the Ark of Noah.


5 posted on 06/13/2009 4:43:50 AM PDT by mission9 (It ain't bragging if you can do it.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Many cultures around the world have tales of the flood. People have seen Noah’s Ark and it does not look like the Sunday School pictures of boats with animals in them.

The ark is a type of Christ. Those in Him will escape God’s righteous wrath to be poured out on this earth as the flood was. Only eight people survived the worldwide flood.

They asked Jesus if many would be saved. His answer was, “Enter ye in at the strait (narrow) gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Matthew 7:13)

Eight people out of the whole world.


6 posted on 06/13/2009 4:47:11 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: RoadTest

Got ya. Just satire.


7 posted on 06/13/2009 5:14:06 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: RoadTest
Only eight people survived the worldwide flood.

Just keep in mind that the Bible was written in a way to be understood by the largest number of people at the time who could read.....there are many who believe that the literal translation is not always the factual translation.

That is not a means of demeaning the Bible. It is a means of understanding it and explaining the science of it.

The worldwide flood was most likely a massive regional flood beyond which there was no exploration at the time....hence, it was THEIR world that was flooded.

8 posted on 06/13/2009 5:15:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Fennie

And in the HOLD of the ship is.....the Ark of the Covenant!


9 posted on 06/13/2009 5:18:19 AM PDT by 2harddrive (then)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I suspected that. I was going to answer you with satire but I had something more important to say.


10 posted on 06/13/2009 5:25:55 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Well considering the latest interglacial (when the ice sheets started to retreat) period started just 11,000 years ago, it’s not surprising that many cultures have flood stories.

When the ice melted, the sea level rose, and coastal cultures around the world would have been affected. The Bering Strait flooded, the Black sea flooded, numerous islands sank beneath the ocean...


11 posted on 06/13/2009 5:43:22 AM PDT by Raymann
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But the Bible says nothing of Mount Ararat.

KJV Gen 8:4 And the ark rested() in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

The Mountains of Ararat are the region of Eastern Turkey that is north of Mesopotamia.

Tradition puts the Ark on top of the Mountain. The Bible does not.


12 posted on 06/13/2009 5:46:01 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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Tradition puts the Ark on top of the Mountain. The Bible does not.

I recalled a song Tennessee Ernie Ford this and a search revealed that the Statler Brothers also sang:

Well the ark rose up on the foot of the deep
And after 40 days Mr.Noah took a peek said
We ain't movin' Lord where are we at
The Lord said you're sittin' on a mount Ararat.

13 posted on 06/13/2009 5:51:14 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: Raymann
Well considering the latest interglacial (when the ice sheets started to retreat) period started just 11,000 years ago, it’s not surprising that many cultures have flood stories.

Yes, it is theorized that the central US was a low ocean, held back by a glacial wall in the rockies. When that broke, the water flowed out to sea.

You are correct, all we have is theory, stories and a few scientists' models....and we all know how reliable those are!

14 posted on 06/13/2009 5:52:56 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Just keep in mind that the Bible was written in a way to be understood by the largest number of people at the time who could read.....there are many who believe that the literal translation is not always the factual translation.”

Yes...the allegorical hermeneutic view.

What historical matters written of in the OT have been 100% disproven?


15 posted on 06/13/2009 6:11:39 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: Fennie

Mount Ararat from Yerevan, Armenia. The mountain is the national symbol of Armenia although it is now located in Turkey.

16 posted on 06/13/2009 6:20:10 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: woollyone
What historical matters written of in the OT have been 100% disproven?

First, lose the attitude if you want a discussion.

Second, I never said anything about disproving the Bible. I am talking about its literal versus figurative meaning.

Bread and Wine are not actually the body and blood of Christ. Jesus was not talking about feeding hunger with bread and blood, but feeding the spirit.

Can figurative interpretation be taken too far? Yes! It can be used to either dimiss the entire Bible and its teachings or used to selectively interpret God's will to suit one's preferences.

However, literal interpretation misses the message God is communicating to us. Figurative teaching is a method used in the Bible to convey meaning, and it is not meant to diminish that meaning in any way.

17 posted on 06/13/2009 6:48:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Fennie
A view of Ararat from The city of Igdir in Turkey:


18 posted on 06/13/2009 8:49:38 AM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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To: a_Turk

— Latest Photos Of The REAL Noah’s Ark —

http://www.666soon.com/search_for_noah.htm


19 posted on 06/13/2009 9:56:10 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Hard to imagine that the flood level was 13,300 feet above sea level at the time...


20 posted on 06/13/2009 11:27:56 AM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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