Skip to comments.The Birth Certificate Question: An Open Letter to Shephard Smith at FOX News
Posted on 06/19/2009 10:27:18 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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Good letter but way too many words for Shep to read.
Excellent letter. Let’s hope Shep responds.
Smith is just a camera face, a performer, neither a journalist nor an investigator. His often misstates the truth and never backtracks. He is also extremely thin-skinned, so don’t expect this letter to do any good.
Shep has become just another MSM hack, too bad he is despoiling FOX News by his presence there. BTW, good letter, but there is zero chance this hack will pay attention or care, and his drone assistants will surely screen him from it anyway...
Months back I read a response that Barry has an application for employment at Fox and by law they cannot discuss anything personal about him (loophole). Don’t know if it has merit though. Can’t remember the source.
LOL! Some devilish producer at Fox should install the letter on his teleprompter, he'd read the whole thing before he knew what he was saying!
Sheppy will glance at the letter and determine in the first paragraph it’s beneath him to even read it.
Sheppy hasn’t forgotten he’s supposed to present the news and not make it, he never learned it in the first place. He’s one sorry excuse for a newsman.
I can't stand that mascara wearing little bioch!
The letter just repeats a bunch of the same old “facts” from the Birther mythology. Those “facts” are not true. The Birthers have no case.
I bet he answers as soon as he logs on to FR.
Shep wants to be another “Geraldo,” nothing more than a showboat.
Shep Smith does not inspire me to turn on the tube. Beck does. Beck would add millions of lead-in viewers to the O’Reilly show.
Why is FoxNews allowing Smith to prevent O’Reilly from surpassing Katie Couric’s ABC Evening News? It would be HUGE, in fact historic, to be the first cable news show to surpass an evening news show in viewership.
Beck will get O’Reilly there. Shep will not.
I would think not journalist, more like the dj type like gb!
Oh man, you’re gonna make his mascara smear!
No doubt about it.
Please specify which of the "facts" in the letter are false and present some evidence to support your assertions. Otherwise, your statements are completely unsupported.
Mrs. Smooth calls him “that little girlyman”. LOL!
One fact you simply cannot deny: Obama and the DNC have spent an enormous sum of money to deny anyone other than Obama access the original document in Hawaii.
That immediately leads to the following question: “WHY?”
OK, so what are the facts, and how do you know?
That is the same question Pappas is asking Sheppard Smith.
We need to see some of your “facts,” mlo. Post ‘em.
How about this one for a starter? "If so, the question then would be, "did that act confer Indonesian citizenship?" If so, where are the documents that "restored" his U.S. citizenship, if indeed he was natural born? "
The answer to the first part is easy; under Indonesian law even if Soetoro did adopt him then that would not make Obama an Indonesian citizen. As for the second part, even if he had been adopted by Soetoro and even if that adoption conferred Indonesian citizenship on Obama, that still wouldn't impact his U.S. citizenship status at all.
It is the same old stuff in a different wrapper.
She's right on the money. LOL!
I was too kind referring to Sheppy as newsman, should have said news person. :)
keep up the buzzzzzing noise
mlo is a fixture on threads about the BC...the strategy DENY and REPEAT
Actually he has already surpassed Couric, he is probably more afraid that Beck would surpass him, else Beck would be there.
Obama himself has made the "case" by refusing to show his original long form birth certificate to the American public.
It's a simple request. If he's legitimately eligible to hold the office of the presidency, then he could (and should) squash all of the controversy by producing this simple document.
The fact that a man in the most powerful political position on earth refuses to do this, casts extreme suspicion on him.
Again, it's a simple request. If Obama's got nothing to hide, then why won't he show his original long form birth certificate to the public?
LOL! I still remember Katrina. He really is the weepy sort, isn’t he.
I'm trying to remember where I've seen that technique before...
1) Dehumanize by applying a derogatory label.
The fact that he is the man in the most powerful political position on earth, may mean that he just either doesn’t think this is important, or that he’s really busy as president, and just doesn’t have the time or inclination to appease those that need appeasement.
You beat me to it.
So, Obama is too important to care about this fundamental constitutional issue? What is he, a king?
Or, he's so busy that he "doesn't have time or the inclination" to answer to the American People?
What are you, a Royalist?
Bout time somebody called him on that babysh!t outburst!
If he does, it will be the same kind of tortured CYA rationale that all of these liberal drive-by media types use when cornered. Shep is a complete loser--every one should have figured that out back when the "parking space" fiasco occurred. He's the kind of self important blowhard who, when denied immediate seating at a restaurant, responds with "Don't you know who I am?"
Of course he’s not a king, and I certainly can’t answer for him. I’m just throwing out some potential reasons for the lack of appeasement.
Back again, eh? Care to cite the Indonesian law of the time that allowed one to have dual citizenship? We didn’t think so.
What a load. If the "birthers" really "have no case" the case would die in the first court to hear the facts. If the "birthers" have no case, why spend nearly a million dollars trying to obstruct it, as the Zero has. It would be complete and total waste of money.
I think the conclusion is obvious and moreover, the conclusion is also obvious that you are shilling for the impostor.
Maybe not, but as someone with a decades long involvement with Indonesia, and a part time resident there even now, I can tell you that Indonesia does not issue Indonesian Passports to non-Indonesian citizens. Nor does it issue Kartu Pendudks to them. Young Barry was passed off in Indonesia as an Indonesian citizen, and that could not have been done without possession of at least one of these critical documents.
Barry Soetoro's citizenship status stinks like yesterday's cod.
Not at all. It's called Law Number 62 of 1958, and it's posted here.
If you look at Article 2, Section 1 you'll note that a foreign child under the age of 5 who is adopted automatically becomes an Indonesian citizen. Obama, being 6 or 7 when Soetoro took the family to Indonesia, doesn't qualify. Therefore he would have had to go through the naturalization process and based on the rest of Law 62 it doesn't appear that he was there long enough or old enough to do so. Also, I might add, nowhere in the law does it say that Obama would have lost his U.S. citizenship unless he voluntarily gave it up as part of the naturalization process. Which he could not do unless he was an adult, so had Obama been under the age of 5 and had Soetoro adopted him, resulting in Obama automatically becoming an Indonesian citizen, nothing prohibited him from retaining his U.S. citizenship.
We didnt think so.
Keep thinking like that and you might hurt yourself.
Couric gets nearly 6 million.
O’Reilly’s show gets about 3, iirc.
And no doubt that is true. So the question becomes how do we know that he had either a passport or an identity card? Where would he have had to produce one, as a child under 10? If Soetoro said Obama was a citizen, where would he have had to show documentation to prove it?
I am a birther. (Although LucyT & nully may disown me after this post.) I’ve had a couple of discussions with N-S & mlo. They’re not out to prove us wrong. They simply do not believe we have proved our case. And that’s a fair assessment because we haven’t.
Take the Indonesian citizenship issue as an example. We have only the American Soetoro-Dunham divorce decree as evidenciary proof (as opposed to hearsay) that Soetorro adopted Obama. Even then we don’t know if the adoption occurred in the U.S. or in Indonesia. The Indonesian school records prove only registration, not adoption. We do not have Indonesian legal documents to back up the adoption claim. Since we can’t prove the adoption, we also can’t prove he obtained Indonesian citizenship through that adoption. We also cannot prove that Obama had an Indonesian passport, which would be another way to prove citizenship.
While Indonesian law may indicate that Obama had to be an Indonesian citizen in order to attend school there or that he lost his U.S. citizenship if he became an Indonesian citizen, our courts are not bound by Indonesian law.
Since we can’t prove he was ever adopted or obtained Indonesian citizenship, we also cannot prove that he ever lost his U.S. citizenship or needed to reaffirm it.
We have lots of “probably” and “likely,” but sadly we haven’t proved our case and can’t do so without access to those records.
Flame away. *cringes*
Just repeated O'Reiley's claim last night.