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'It's Really bad' (4 teens killed in NM highway crash by drunk driver)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | June 30, 2009 | Phil Parker And Kiera Hay

Posted on 06/30/2009 8:04:56 AM PDT by CedarDave

One minute they were a bunch of carefree teenagers headed to somebody's house to “hang out.”

The next minute four of them were dead, one critically injured and others on their cell phones describing for dispatchers the horrific crash scene east of Santa Fe.

“Tell someone to get out here. It's really bad. I mean, half the (expletive) car is gone,” pleads Mikhail McReynolds, the first caller to reach dispatchers. “I think people might be dead.”

Kate Klein, Alyssa Trouw, an Julian Martinez, all 16, and Rose Simmons 15 were killed shortly after midnight Sunday when the Subaru in which they were riding swerved to avoid the Jeep that 27-year-old Scott Owens was driving in the wrong lane on Old Las Vegas Highway, according to investigators.

Owens then swerved into the Subaru and broadsided it, according to the sheriff's office.

Avree Koffman, the driver of the Subaru, was the only survivor in that car and remains in University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The Subaru was one of a group of cars headed to a party in Eldorado southeast of Santa Fe.

Officers said they detected an odor of alcohol on Owens and said he had bloodshot eyes and slurred speech.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: alcohol; drunkdriving
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To: DCBryan1

You ought to consider keeping some of your random thoughts to yourself.


21 posted on 06/30/2009 8:34:20 AM PDT by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: DCBryan1

The article doesn’t say what kind of Subaru it is, but Subaru does make Foresters and Tribecas which would both qualify as SUVs I imagine. And all except the smallest of their line get 5 star crash ratings.


22 posted on 06/30/2009 8:35:08 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: reagan_fanatic
The drunken bastards who cause accidents like this should be the ones to die.

Amen. Sooner the better.

23 posted on 06/30/2009 8:35:34 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (It is impossible to convince someone of facts or truth if they refuse to believe.)
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To: DCBryan1
If that was in Florida, the driver of the Bimmer used to belong to a BMW website I used to go to. He was bragging about his M5 (actually his father) and how he drove, and a poster straight up warned him to watch out or he'll end up in the news. That weekend he, and his friends, passed on.

Bottom line, no matter the car, at certain speeds you are simply meat-ware strapped onto a missile. The head of that extreme rightwing Austrian party died in a VW Phaeton ...an extremely safe car. Princess Di died in a Mercedes S Class, a veritable tank. At certain speeds, even a Range Rover Vogue will be scrapped. Drive safe.

24 posted on 06/30/2009 8:36:56 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Mr. Blonde; DCBryan1

It’s an old Subaru, 1992 vehicle year before all the safety features in the newer ones. I’ve owned both early and recent models with the new ones having airbags and such.


25 posted on 06/30/2009 8:40:15 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's EPA wants to get rid of cows: They emit CO2 from the front end and CH4 from the rear.)
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To: spetznaz

Same thing happened down in Las Cruces. Except there the runway was on a mesa top and they flew off the end.


26 posted on 06/30/2009 8:41:56 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's EPA wants to get rid of cows: They emit CO2 from the front end and CH4 from the rear.)
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To: CedarDave
Do they still have drive-thru windows at bars in NM? (They did in '91 when my family did our USA driving tour.)

ML/NJ

27 posted on 06/30/2009 8:47:10 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: CedarDave
I hope I don't turn the thread away from its main point.

We were coming back from Carlsbad to Roswell, sunday night around 6:30, topped a hill outside of Artesia and saw a roadblock.

There must have been 20 to 30 Officers from various agencies setting up.

Now I'm not a fan of these checkpoints, I was amazed at the amount of man power that was concentrated in 50 yards of road and not out on patrol.

What I do want to make clear,is that the Officers at that checkpoint were polite and professional, I just find this type of deployment detrimental, to over all enforcement and of unconstitutional.

28 posted on 06/30/2009 8:50:17 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: ml/nj

No, drive thru’s are all gone. However, just about every convenience store sells gas and booze. Here in the oil patch, not uncommon to see people carrying two cases of beer out the door.


29 posted on 06/30/2009 8:51:17 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's EPA wants to get rid of cows: They emit CO2 from the front end and CH4 from the rear.)
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To: DCBryan1

It’s a shame the drunk driver was not a Mexican illegal.

At least their deaths could have had meaning in that they would have helped stop the illegal flood. (/sarcasm)


30 posted on 06/30/2009 8:52:16 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Kakaze
I just find this type of deployment detrimental, to over all enforcement and of unconstitutional.

oops

Should have been .....I find this type of deployment, detrimental to enforcement and of course unconstitutional.

31 posted on 06/30/2009 8:52:57 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze

There are pros and cons to DWI checkpoints. They do stop everyone and no profiling so they are legal. On the other hand it is definitely guilty until proven innocent. And if you have an opportunity to exit the highway before reaching the checkpoint, you used to be stopped though recently they have ruled that police can not stop you if you turn before reaching the area. My personal policy is to avoid large concentrations of flashing red lights. I suggest that one turn far enough in advance so as not to arouse suspicion.


32 posted on 06/30/2009 8:58:38 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's EPA wants to get rid of cows: They emit CO2 from the front end and CH4 from the rear.)
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To: staytrue

A lot that are arrested are illegals, but in Santa Fe the cops can’t ask them that question; it’s a “sanctuary” city.


33 posted on 06/30/2009 9:00:40 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's EPA wants to get rid of cows: They emit CO2 from the front end and CH4 from the rear.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

We got our daughter a Subie Forester just for that reason! Prayers for all. ;-(


34 posted on 06/30/2009 9:01:05 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: cripplecreek

What kind of car was that?


35 posted on 06/30/2009 9:02:55 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: CedarDave
My personal policy is to avoid large concentrations of flashing red lights. I suggest that one turn far enough in advance so as not to arouse suspicion.

LOL!

Sound advice.

I think if one thing came out of it, it let the community know they are going to be out over the holiday.

I recently moved from Indiana, I really am happy with how the Officers here work, they are understaffed here in Roswell, but those I've met have been very good, a pleasant change.

36 posted on 06/30/2009 9:03:46 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: cripplecreek
Kids these days think that when you slam on the brakes the car stops like magic.

I like movies with special effects about as much as the next guy, but I wonder if these contribute to the problem. The hero on TV and in movies is always defying the laws of physics. It's the cool thing to do -- why shouldn't every 16-year-old give it a whirl?

I know it's not completely new, but if James Bond does it while wearing a tuxedo, or of Burt Reynolds does it why trading wisecracks with Dom DeLuise, I think people can see it as a fantasy. But some of the stuff I see on youtube (kids trying to jump over moving cars, for instance) makes me think that kids no longer see a line between fantasy physics and reality physics.

37 posted on 06/30/2009 9:08:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: Kakaze
I really am happy with how the Officers here work, they are understaffed here in Roswell, but those I've met have been very good, a pleasant change.

That's good to know. Roswell has a problem with all the aliens, the kind from south of the border not from outer space. They cause the largest part of the drug and domestic violence problems the city sees.

38 posted on 06/30/2009 9:11:39 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's EPA wants to get rid of cows: They emit CO2 from the front end and CH4 from the rear.)
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To: Tunehead54

It was an SUV but I have no clue what make.


39 posted on 06/30/2009 9:14:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: spetznaz
I did some digging on that 2008 story...you weren't kidding!!! Kid had a deathwish! Flew off the same runway at 150MPH SIDEWAYS and went 200 feet into a 300 year old tree. He had four (4) of his friends in the car with him......Here is the result of his youthful indiscretion:

Link to story in Ocala, FL

(Driver of BMW in fatal crash sought Web advice on making it go faster)

40 posted on 06/30/2009 9:17:11 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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