Posted on 07/07/2009 10:30:02 AM PDT by TheRiverNile
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies to pull the world out of the current crisis and avoid a repeat.
The pope made his call for a re-think of the way the world economy is run in a new encyclical which touched on a number of social issues but whose main connecting thread was how the current crisis has affected both rich and poor nations.
Parts of the encyclical, titled "Charity in Truth," seemed bound to upset free marketeers because of its underlying rejection of unbridled capitalism and unregulated market forces, which he said had led to "thoroughly destructive" abuse of the system.
The pope said every economic decision had a moral consequence and called for "forms of redistribution" of wealth overseen by governments to help those most affected by crises.
Benedict said "there is an urgent need of a true world political authority" whose task would be "to manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result."
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
It’s shocking enough to read some of their stuff.
To realize they actually believe such stinking piles is another shock.
Correction . . .
NO “maybe” about that “Denial.”
LUB
My point is that they shouldn’t have to take a vow. Jesus/Paul didn’t command that all priests be celibate. In fact he said it was better to marry than to burn. Some people are truly called to singleness. But it was your church who demanded celibacy, in part so the wealth of the church stayed in the church and not with the priests and their families.
That’s what you all say when people leave the church. The ones who came to our church were not looking for some easy way out. They were tired of the lies and heresies of the church and some of the other foolishness that went on, like pedophilia, which was never addressed properly. No, my friend, there are many reasons why people leave churches. Being poorly catechized is not one of them.
Thanks, Quix. Grrrrr.
In other words, Goodbye America, hello Communism. America will never be the same after Obama. How sad is that? We’re screwed.
Amen, Diamond! Go, go, go!
It may be that we would do well to put a few people on total ignore.
LOL.
>> “In which election was Hitler duly elected Chancellor? “
And squabbling about this point would prove what?
Does whether Hitler was “elected” or “appointed” have anything to do with whether a “world authority” would, in fact, subject itself to ANY authority or principle? Except the prince of darkness, of course?
DG
lol, writing it down
I know some "Christians" who voted for Kerry and Obama just for this reason.....
.....I think it was just an excuse they use.
Notice he said this after.....
.....Obama was allowed to speak at Notre Dame.
.....Obama spoke with the Pope.
Is this Pope on the same side as John Paul?
I’ve started with two of them. I’m freepmailing you.
You wrote:
“Is there ANY reason to imagine that ANY elected/appointed “world authority” would be any different?”
Yes. If elected they would be replaceable. If elected, then there would have to be checks and balances or no one will agree. In other words, there’s no more reason to assume evil of it than in our own system. And yes, our system is now lead by a would be dictator and he doesn’t remotely control the world. So will you now oppose the US government? I don’t mean merely vote aginst Obama. Will you oppose THE VERY IDEA of a US government?
“If you were smart, just play along for a minute, you would have realized that THE WORLD is a state with no history of subsidiarity in politics.”
False. First, we have it in a secular mode. We call it federalism. Second, the fact that subsidiarity doesn’t exist as much as we would like doesn’t mean it shouldn’t. you are assuming the lack of a thing means that it should not exist.
“Principles are fine things. I think everybody should express their principles. I do not think anyone should call for a “world authority,” to redistribute wealth and bring about disarmament, and imagine that such an authority would actually follow any principle.”
You assume it won’t. You are just assuming.
“UNIVERSITY OF VLADIMIR PROPAGANDA 101 5 Credits.”
Well, that would be better than:
Old Reggie Community College
Self-Delusion 101, .5 nontransferable credits.
No textbook.
No prerequisites required, but years with of life experience attacking all things Catholic highly recommended.
Meeting place: under the local bridge.
You wrote:
“My point is that they shouldn’t have to take a vow.”
That’s not for you to decide.
“Jesus/Paul didn’t command that all priests be celibate.”
No, they didn’t, but they were both celibate. Jesus did, however, give authority in these matters to the Church End of story.
“In fact he said it was better to marry than to burn.”
He did. Right after he said this: “Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.”
So, St. Paul says it is good to stay unmarried, but to marry if you can’t control yourself. I agree with that entirely. So does the Church.
“Some people are truly called to singleness. But it was your church who demanded celibacy, in part so the wealth of the church stayed in the church and not with the priests and their families.”
No. It had nothing to do with wealth. It was not the wealth of a parish that was at stake, but the parish itself. In the Middle Ages, when people had little more than land and moveable property to hand done to their children, it was a terrible problem when priests tried to hand their parishes’ property onto their sons. The parish, after all, did not belong to the priests. It was donate by the faithful to the Church. It was not about wealth. It was about parish survival. And that was still a secondary concern. After all those most in favor of the vow of celibacy were those who came out of the Gregorian Reform Movement (which you probably never heard of) which was heavily influenced by Cluniac monastic reform.
My Bible says “Thou shalt not covet” and “Thou shalt not steal.” He is advocating the violation of God’s commandments.
You wrote:
“That’s what you all say when people leave the church.”
Because it’s true. I’ve seen it myself numerous times. I have had to teach the faith to a number of “former” or “ex” Catholics. Some accepted it and returned to the faith. Others, especially those who were divorced, wanted to use birth control, supported abortion, gay marraige, cohabitation etc. were too wedded to their Protestant sects to change.
“The ones who came to our church were not looking for some easy way out.”
Yet they found it nonetheless. Now they can use birth control and no one in your sect bats an eye right? They can probably divorce and remarry too, right?
“They were tired of the lies and heresies of the church and some of the other foolishness that went on, like pedophilia, which was never addressed properly.”
No. Someone who joins your sect because of supposed “lies and heresies” in the Catholic Church already long ago left the Catholic faith and was already - for years most likely - a Protestant. Also, anyone who leaves the Church because one generation of bishops’ poor handling of ephebophilia (it was rarely pedophilia actually) didn’t have much of a faith to start with. A faithful person would realize you judge a Church by its saints, not by those who fail to do what the Church teaches. You see that’s the difference between a well catechized person with faith and someone proves my point in spades.
” No, my friend, there are many reasons why people leave churches. Being poorly catechized is not one of them.”
Being poorly catechized is all of them at heart - especially when combined with a self-serving heart. If you want to see what I am talking about, read it in this book: http://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/resource_info/210.html
And if you look at reverts to the Catholic faith, they are often quite pen about telling the truth about their lives as Catholics when they were young: “This is my parish church located in Cleveland, Ohio’s historic Little Italy. You would not find me at Mass there or anywhere back then unless it was Christmas Midnight Mass except for a few occasions.” http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a2.htm
In the meantime, priests are leaving your churches high and dry. It’s time for a change.
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