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T. Rex Teeth Take a Bite Out of Evolution
ICR ^ | July 17, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 07/17/2009 9:28:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

A set of fossilized Tyrannosaurus rex teeth was found in a rock layer that it had no business being in, according to evolutionary interpretations. Discovered in Hyogo, Japan, the teeth came from a 15-foot-tall dinosaur entombed in early Cretaceous rock, supposedly deposited 140 million years ago.

The problem is that T. rex dinosaurs of this large size are not supposed to have evolved until about 30 million years later. Thus, what is “known” about dinosaurs must undergo drastic revision.[1] Haruo Saegusa, a curator at the Museum of Nature and Human Activities, recently told JapanToday, ‘‘If the dinosaur belongs to the same era of the strata [early Cretaceous], the tyrannosaurus could have started to grow larger much earlier than previously thought.’’[2] The thought seems to be that merely adjusting evolutionary development backward will be enough to make the fossil fit the strata.

But the very concept of strata representing “eras” does not come from the strata themselves. That concept began with eighteenth-century French naturalist Georges Cuvier, and it has been in vogue ever since, despite the fact that it causes more problems for interpreting rock strata than it solves, and stands in stark contrast to scriptural history. Young-earth creation geologists have long held that most sedimentary strata—including the Cretaceous layer in which these teeth were found—resulted from waterborne deposits during Noah’s Flood that may harbor fossils from a particular local environment, but do not represent a particular “era.”

The assignment of a certain number of “millions of years” to a rock formation does not derive from the strata either. It is another assumption that is used to prescribe what constitutes “valid” interpretations.

Radioisotope dating is used to bolster the vast time spans ascribed to the geologic record. However, geologist John Woodmorappe cogently revealed that the radio dates are actually hand-picked to coincide with the dates already assigned from the geologic column diagram. ICR’s RATE research also conclusively demonstrated with independent lines of evidence that radioactive decay rates, widely used to bolster deep time, were dramatically accelerated in the past.[4]

Many other natural processes—like the recession rate of the moon, the decay of earth’s magnetic field, or the diffusion of helium from zircon crystals in granite—can be used, along with some basic assumptions, to measure the age of the earth, but these methods give maximum dates that are incompatible with evolutionary time spans.

Thus, the nineteenth-century strata/age/era correlation is in serious trouble. However, an oversized T. rex found in the “wrong age” and the “wrong time” doesn’t surprise creation scientists. If the rock that these T. rex fossil teeth was found in was indeed deposited during the year-long Noahic Flood, then it is easy to explain why a large dinosaur is found mixed in with smaller ones.

There never was an “era of smaller T-rex dinosaurs,” but there was an unimaginably massive Flood that wiped out whole environments, layering and sorting sediments and fossilizing the creatures buried therein.

References (for ref. links, go to original--GGG)

1. For recent examples of drastic evolutionary revisions, see Sherwin, F. The Devastating Issue of Dinosaur Tissue. ICR News. Posted on icr.org June 1, 2005, accessed June 25, 2009; Thomas, B. Data Derails Dinosaur Dominance Idea. ICR News. Posted on icr.org September 18, 2008, accessed June 25, 2009; Thomas, B. Dinosaur Fossil Erases 40 Million Years. ICR News. Posted on icr.org June 23, 2008, accessed June 25, 2009. 2. Teeth of tyrannosaurus ancestor dating back 140 mil years found in Hyogo. JapanToday. Posted on japantoday.com June 20, 2009, accessed June 24, 2009. 3. Woodmorappe, J. 1999. The Mythology of Modern Dating Methods. El Cajon, CA: Institute for Creation Research, 27-49. 4. Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth (RATE). Posted on icr.org.

* Mr. Thomas is Science Writer at the Institute for Creation Research.


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To: xcamel

“Radiometric dating is accurate”

I would suggest you do more reading on that issue. Their 3 main assumptions are not reliable.


81 posted on 07/17/2009 11:05:02 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10
Dinosaurs could’ve destroyed themselves.

Some theories:
Smoking
Driving SUVs
High fructose corn syrup

82 posted on 07/17/2009 11:05:05 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Natural Law

Not exactly. I do believe that what is claimed for evolution is actually devolution. And the study of DNA backs this up. Micro-evolution represents a loss of information - not a gain. Macro-evolution is a fairy tale of epic proportions!


83 posted on 07/17/2009 11:06:11 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: kingpins10

If you can’t correctly frame the concept of “hate” in your mind and articulate it, you most certainly can’t get your head around evolution, or any science for that matter.


84 posted on 07/17/2009 11:07:28 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Have you noticed how things left to themselves tend to go to the lowest common denominator and at a high rate of speed??


85 posted on 07/17/2009 11:08:38 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: kingpins10

...And you seem unable to quote someone accurately. Such a shame.


86 posted on 07/17/2009 11:09:34 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

I have studied it extensively.

You just cannot see that you insult people to cover up your lack of obvious study in these matters. This will be my last post to you on this issue since you cannot be civil.

Good day.


87 posted on 07/17/2009 11:09:36 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: ConservativeDude
"i hope we get the name calling done with quickly on this thread"

The screeching will prevail because revealing information like this is like pouring sulphuric acid on the foundations of evolution. The harpies here, are placed here for the express purpose of deflecting the truth.

88 posted on 07/17/2009 11:11:15 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: kingpins10

“Another one bites the dust”

Next stop... Coast To Coast AM.


89 posted on 07/17/2009 11:11:19 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: handy old one

That’s called entropy, which is another argument against “self organizing systems” like evolution.


90 posted on 07/17/2009 11:14:02 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It’s pretty clear that T. Rex scientists were in possession of the secret of time travel.


91 posted on 07/17/2009 11:15:16 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: kingpins10

You do understand that without evolution,
there has to be a Creator,
and logically there will be an objective standard of judgement from that Creator,

and this is somewhere where many fear to go.

So you understand why these conversations get nasty in a hurry.


92 posted on 07/17/2009 11:16:03 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MrB

I understand. But it is truly sad that so many are indoctrinated with theories and assumptions and believed as fact. If Darwin could speak now, what would he say? ;)


93 posted on 07/17/2009 11:18:29 AM PDT by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10
If Darwin could speak now, what would he say? ;)
LET ME OUTA THIS TOMB!!!

Darwin had a kind of messed up life. Lost some family, a daughter I think, and had a real chip on his shoulder about God because of it.

He'd probably be justifying his theories just as strongly as you see other atheists today.

94 posted on 07/17/2009 11:21:46 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Kozak
"Teeth of tyrannosaurus ancestor dating back 140 mil years found in Hyogo"

Since there is no evidence that it is anything but a T-Rex, this headline is wishful rationalization, and nothing more.

95 posted on 07/17/2009 11:24:25 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts

There goes all that peer review out the winder.


96 posted on 07/17/2009 11:24:31 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: theFIRMbss

“Museum officials in Japan say fossilized teeth from an ancestor of the tyrannosaurus have been found in the Hyogo Prefecture.”

This illustrates the irrational credulity of the evo camp.

Facts mean nothing to them if they don’t support their illogical assumptions, so they ‘adjust’ the facts by inserting the word “ancestor” to hide the fact that it was a T-Rex in every way, except where it was found.


97 posted on 07/17/2009 11:29:12 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: kingpins10
"In fact, science estimates mankind has less than 1% of all knowledge."

I'm not necessarily doubting you, but your statement leaves me with two questions;

1) Can you cite your source?

2) Is this the same science you discount with respect to evolution?

98 posted on 07/17/2009 11:31:04 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: editor-surveyor

Not exactly the first one found..

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1565889.htm


99 posted on 07/17/2009 11:32:35 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: MrB

I was referring to the post also not just everything else like life, the economy , mankind and the environment. How is that for covering the problem as a whole and yet individually as a whole??


100 posted on 07/17/2009 11:33:23 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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