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Go `Birthers' go! (MSM starting to make arguments to cover Obama even if born in Kenya!)
Chicago Tribune ^

Posted on 07/21/2009 6:32:52 PM PDT by pissant

The increasingly popular term for them is "Birthers" -- the indignant, frantic, seething fringe Republicans who are persuaded that there is strong doubt about where President Barack Obama was born and, therefore, strong doubt about the legitimacy of his presidency.

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Even assuming Obama was born in Kenya despite the considerable evidence that he was born in Hawaii, that five-year provision in the law was intended, pretty clearly, to prevent a person from claiming U.S. citizenship when he was born in another country to parents who were long-time residents of that country, simply on the grounds that one of his parents was still, technically a U.S. citizen.

Say "Jim" is born in the U.S., lives here until he's 11, moves with his parents to Germany, comes of age there, marries a German woman and, when he's 25, has a child. As a matter of national policy and common sense, we don't want Jim's child to be able to claim automatic U.S. citizenship -- he is born in Germany to long-time residents of Germany. Declaring him a U.S. citizen is fundamentally absurd.

The thinking behind the law seems to be that if Jim spent at least five of his 10 years after age 14 in the U.S. before moving to Germany, he has been sufficiently "Americanized" that his children shall be considered U.S. citizens.

It's fairly clear to me and, should push come to shove, will be fairly clear to the courts and to Congress, that the law was not intended to be a "gotcha!" moment used to deny citizenship to the children of life-long U.S. citizens in their late teens who happen to be out of the country when they give birth.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; bho44; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; kenyabelieveit; larrysinclairslover; obama; truthers; usurper
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Look for alot more of this type of argument in the weeks ahead.
1 posted on 07/21/2009 6:32:52 PM PDT by pissant
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Any chance we get we need to remind the media that a bunch of “nutjobs” demanded evidence of McCain’s eligibility.


2 posted on 07/21/2009 6:34:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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I’m a birther.... and want to hold their feet to the fire.... people who don’t have anything to hide, don’t hide anything.


3 posted on 07/21/2009 6:34:20 PM PDT by bareford101
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President Biden. The Horror the horror.

4 posted on 07/21/2009 6:35:09 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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Wish they would start to address the underlying issue here that you cannot be natural born with a non-citizen father.


5 posted on 07/21/2009 6:35:20 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: cripplecreek

No. You see, back then, it was simply a respectable debate about immigration law and proper documentation.


6 posted on 07/21/2009 6:35:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: DogBarkTree

Who knows how awful Biden would be for a short stint. But he cannot be worse than the boy marxist quisling.


7 posted on 07/21/2009 6:36:23 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Considerable evidence? Why not say "absolute, irrefutable evidence as presented to some website somewhere."

I don't understand why 0bama simply doesn't make his birth certificate an open record. It would destroy the GOP at this point and buy him significant political capital.

8 posted on 07/21/2009 6:36:42 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Any chance we get we need to remind the media that a bunch of “nutjobs” demanded evidence of McCain’s eligibility.

Exactly. And while we're at it remind them that at the time Leahy, McCaskill, and Obama all agreed that natural born meant born to TWO citizen parents, PLURAL. Of which we know Obama was not born to TWO citizens by his own admission.

9 posted on 07/21/2009 6:37:11 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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They cannot answer the very, very, simple question: why won’t Obama show us his original $12 Hawai’i BIRTH CERTIFICATE ?

(Not a “Certification of Live Birth “ which is only issued to parents of children born overseas ... and ALWAYS lists Hawaii as the place of birth)


10 posted on 07/21/2009 6:37:17 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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Wow, such strong words of protest for such a kooky issue, huh?


11 posted on 07/21/2009 6:37:20 PM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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True. At least Biden would allow himself to be handled by grownups. Zero the manchild has all the answers.


12 posted on 07/21/2009 6:37:55 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: pissant
seething fringe Republicans

That's FORMER GOP to you, Mr. Matthews!

13 posted on 07/21/2009 6:38:04 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Send them the Constitutional clause. Unless an amendment is passed, ONLY A NATURAL BORN citizen may hold that office. The lames don’t even grasp basic civics.


14 posted on 07/21/2009 6:38:41 PM PDT by SueRae
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15 posted on 07/21/2009 6:38:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: DogBarkTree

President Biden would be more amusing than terrifying from my standpoint.


16 posted on 07/21/2009 6:38:59 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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(MSM starting to make arguments to cover Obama even if born in Kenya!)


17 posted on 07/21/2009 6:39:05 PM PDT by LucyT
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The fact that the MSM is having to concoct this junk legal analysis is telling. They need some spin to neutralize the truth...


18 posted on 07/21/2009 6:39:22 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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...It's fairly clear to me and, should push come to shove, will be fairly clear to the courts and to Congress, that the law was not intended to be a "gotcha!" moment used to deny citizenship ...

Its the law of the land. Its in the US Constitution.

And IF the head of the Executive Branch is guilty of lying over the basics ('where he was born') - he can be expected to lie about anything and to consider himself above any law.
There is no amount of excuses the Chicago Tribune can conjure up -- if someone committed fraud to get elected President - he needs to be summarily dismissed and jailed as quickly as possible.

19 posted on 07/21/2009 6:39:23 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I would just settle for the one you get when you make a normal request for one. Most states simply state the place (usually city or county), state, date and time of birth but omit the hospital and doctor. This sort of certificate is good enough to get a US passport and it is good enough for me.


20 posted on 07/21/2009 6:39:31 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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