Big Business Goes Big for Health Care Reform

Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2009 | John Stossel

[dervish]

see #19

[wastoute]

Oh, but you are wrong my FRiend. One can Go Galt and minimize income, spending, and hence, tax revenues. We ARE doing it, too. Revenues are down 25% to the Fed Beast. Yes WE can, too! LOL. What is more when WE can, Zero can't. Someday what he gives away will have to be paid for and folks are starting to wake up to the fact.

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[padre35]

Which is all true, the question still stands, what should be done, philosophically now?

The Republican Party and Conservatism has had as dogma what is good for business is good for the country, the Bush Era was all about catering to Multinational corporations, now they are more than willing to support robbing the people who supported them the most for the last 20yrs.

[dervish]

What John McCain, Charles Krauthammer and a bunch of our Conservative politicians recommended — separate insurance from employment.

This will have a double advantage - it will also make the insurance companies more responsive to free market pressures from consumers without the middleman.

In addition to separating insurance from employment there has to be the ability for individuals to pool so that they can bargain as a block. Eliminate state borders on insurance sales. Also there should probably be some high risk pool where the government like for auto insurance.

Insurance companies should be required to disclose their payment schedules to doctors and hospitals, and details of policies.

[padre35]

This socialization is merely one finger on the hand reaching into our wallets dervish, who can forget TARP, GM, Chrysler etc?

While Conservatives are saying “open markets/low regulations” the benficiaries of that are saying “more taxpayer’s monies please”.

Philosophically, we are making ourselves beggars at our own funeral, Multinational Corporations have no problem either outsourcing or taking Taxpayer subsidies, at what point is that examined and a conclusion drawn?

[dervish]

As bad as that all is what’s coming with healthcare will make those days look like the Garden of Eden.

If this is not stopped you needn’t worry about the other parts.

[dervish]

Health care is a game-changer. The permanent game-changer. The pendulum will swing, and one day, despite their best efforts, the Republicans will return to power, and, in the right circumstances, the bailouts and cap-and-trade and Government Motors and much of the rest can be reversed. But the government annexation of health care will prove impossible to roll back. It alters the relationship between the citizen and the state and, once that transformation is effected, you can click your ruby slippers all you want but you’ll never get back to Kansas.

http://awesternheart.blogspot.com/2009/07/socialized-health-point-of-no-return.html

brilliant essay from Mark Steyn

[neverdem]

BTTT!

[Paradox]

ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!