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Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care
IsraPundit ^ | 8/19/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 08/19/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by Winged Hussar

Depression, disability, and "being a financial burden" could constitute "Lebensunwerte Leben" (Life Unworthy of Life) in U.S. Government end of life planning document

"The Death Book for Veterans: Ex-soldiers don't need to be told they're a burden to society" by Jim Towey in today's (August 18) Wall Street Journal says,

    Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."
We downloaded this document directly from the Veterans Administration, and the content suggests that both family finances and depression--a non-terminal illness--could constitute Lebensunwerte Leben, or "life unworthy of life." Smoke is generally indicative of fire and, although HR 3200 says nothing about mandatory end of life planning, euthanasia, or anything else similar to Germany's Aktion T4 program--the euthanasia program that served as a precedent for the Holocaust--we have shown (http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16320) that there is indeed fire to go with the smoke. "Your Life, Your Choices" is simply more evidence, and it even suggests that war veterans with depression consider themselves a burden on the society that sent them to war.

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To: the long march
This is not an out of line set of questions

... for families to deal with as families ... but the government has no business in these matters.

81 posted on 08/19/2009 4:14:12 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: STARWISE

Just sent the WSJ article to SarahPAC.


82 posted on 08/19/2009 4:14:59 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Birmingham Rain

Read this. Sickening.


83 posted on 08/19/2009 4:16:19 PM PDT by MagnoliaMS
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To: Winged Hussar

These people are evil, period.


84 posted on 08/19/2009 4:17:25 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Woodrow Wilson should have been waterboarded.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; All

then let them know that when Republicans are back....

First thing gone is tax payer funded abortions!!!


85 posted on 08/19/2009 4:21:56 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (veritas odium parit)
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To: Winged Hussar

This started with Hillarycare.


86 posted on 08/19/2009 4:25:28 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

And that is a very good point!!


87 posted on 08/19/2009 4:26:32 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: STARWISE
Disgusting! Truly despicable bunch of morons in DC!
88 posted on 08/19/2009 4:28:33 PM PDT by luvie (We want freedom; obama is giving us tyranny--all across the board! ~Michael Ledeen~)
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To: SandRat

Good. I just sent it to Drudge. Going to send it to Hannity, Rush and Levin next. Also Beck!


89 posted on 08/19/2009 4:30:49 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: STARWISE
How much worse can this get, STARWISE?

I am so thankful that President Bush removed this horror from the VA, and am appalled that Obama has reinstated it.

But, unfortunately, I am not surprised.

This demonic administration believes in eugenics, and they hate the military. Of course they would blend the two together and try to remove our wounded soldiers.

May God protect our troops AND us from this evil.

90 posted on 08/19/2009 4:31:13 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ll try to get to it at home after Church.

Thanks.


91 posted on 08/19/2009 4:32:36 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: All
This needs repeating! Think about it?
Use Their Words Against Them !
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We do not need or want some bureaucrat telling us what to do with our bodies either!!!
92 posted on 08/19/2009 4:32:39 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (veritas odium parit)
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To: penelopesire

Indirect link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nat-health/message/628

By Ann Potempa Anchorage Daily News
http://www.adn.com/lifestyles/story/0,2649,258358,00.html
(Published April 17, 2001)

Medical ethics started making its way into conversations several decades ago as
people debated organ transplants and other new procedures.

Today, ethicists have much more on their minds. They’re discussing whether it’s
right to ration health care, as is done in organ transplantation. The human
genome project comes with a slew of questions still unanswered.

“We have to start talking about how we’re going to use this stuff,” said Emily
Friedman, an ethics analyst from Chicago who spoke last week during the annual
Biomedical Ethics Symposium at Providence Alaska Medical Center.

The genome project has been on the symposium’s agenda before, so Friedman and
other ethics-minded physicians, nurses, social workers and clerics picked other
matters to talk about. Some of the issues touched close to home, like the
question of physician-assisted suicide. The Alaska Supreme Court is deciding
whether it should be legal for a physician to help a mentally competent,
terminally ill patient commit suicide.

Dr. Robert Pearlman, a professor at the University of Washington School of
Medicine, talked about an ethical dilemma that could affect any Alaska resident
or physician. When patients become sick or injured and cannot speak for
themselves, physicians and family members are left in the confusing position of
not knowing how to treat them. They question the patient’s quality of life,
Pearlman said: “Is this what Grandmother would have wanted?”

New technology enables patients to stay alive longer. But how would they feel
about machines keeping the body running when the mind isn’t?

Health workers have been asking patients to fill out “advanced directives,” any
legal or informal form, such as a living will, that allows people to specify how
they wish to be treated if they are ever in a situation where they cannot speak
for themselves.

A “living will,” which takes effect while the person is alive but unable to
communicate, concentrates only on care decisions. (A regular will takes effect
after death and deals with estate and property concerns.) Directives also can
establish a power of attorney, someone who will make decisions for patients when
patients can’t make them on their own.

Pearlman told the audience about studies and statistics that showed that, even
with advanced directives, there’s still a lot of inconsistency between what
patients want and how they are treated. Part of that inconsistency comes from
how little many people know about planning ahead.

“No one taught us how to do it,” Pearlman said. “They didn’t tell us when to
discuss it.”

People facing certain health risks, such as dementia or terminal illness, should
consider planning ahead, Pearlman said, to determine for themselves how they
want to be treated later in life. Planning minimizes potential conflicts between
family members and physicians. It also reduces the chance that a patient will be
given too little or too much treatment.

Pearlman said the terms used in advanced directives can be misunderstood. People
often say they don’t want to end up as “a vegetable.” But can these people say
what that means to them? The same goes for coma. Pearlman said he asked a number
of people what “coma” meant to them, and they gave him a variety of definitions.

“What we want is a shared understanding of terms,” he said.

Pearlman and his colleagues have created a 50-page booklet that helps people
think about how they want to be treated if they face dementia, a stroke or other
health problem. The booklet, “Your Life, Your Choices,” asks such specific
questions as: If you needed CPR, a feeding tube or a ventilator to live, would
you want it? Would you rather die naturally and not have the treatment? Or do
you not know how to answer this question yet?

“Your Life, Your Choices” can be downloaded free from the Web site
www.va.gov/resdev/programs/hsrd/ylyc.htm


93 posted on 08/19/2009 4:34:40 PM PDT by maggief
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My quick look indicates it’s the usual

HIDEOUS, MURDEROUS, TRAITOROUS, GENOCIDAL STUFF FROM HELL

VIA OTHUGA.

retched.


94 posted on 08/19/2009 4:34:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: penelopesire; ~Kim4VRWC's~

My stupid email program accidently sent all of this information out...all by itself. Seems I can’t control it these days!


95 posted on 08/19/2009 4:34:50 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: Saoirise; HollyB

S-I-C-K!!!


96 posted on 08/19/2009 4:36:11 PM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: penelopesire

Good on you. Remember to send to Laura Ingraham too.


97 posted on 08/19/2009 4:37:18 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Quix

“...retched”

That and evil.


98 posted on 08/19/2009 4:37:26 PM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice; Hurtgen

Yep, Gen Shinseki has sold completely out to nObama


99 posted on 08/19/2009 4:37:30 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: penelopesire

Goodonya!


100 posted on 08/19/2009 4:38:35 PM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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