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Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care
IsraPundit ^ | 8/19/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 08/19/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by Winged Hussar

Depression, disability, and "being a financial burden" could constitute "Lebensunwerte Leben" (Life Unworthy of Life) in U.S. Government end of life planning document

"The Death Book for Veterans: Ex-soldiers don't need to be told they're a burden to society" by Jim Towey in today's (August 18) Wall Street Journal says,

    Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."
We downloaded this document directly from the Veterans Administration, and the content suggests that both family finances and depression--a non-terminal illness--could constitute Lebensunwerte Leben, or "life unworthy of life." Smoke is generally indicative of fire and, although HR 3200 says nothing about mandatory end of life planning, euthanasia, or anything else similar to Germany's Aktion T4 program--the euthanasia program that served as a precedent for the Holocaust--we have shown (http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16320) that there is indeed fire to go with the smoke. "Your Life, Your Choices" is simply more evidence, and it even suggests that war veterans with depression consider themselves a burden on the society that sent them to war.

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To: ExTexasRedhead

I was on the phone discussing business when Fox reported the suicide rate for returning Vets has already gone over the 100 mark for July. I went nuts. I started yelling into the phone that this just isn’t right. The number is way too high.
Troops coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan are being AUTOMATICALLY treated for “stress” and “depression.” They are being administered psychotropic drugs and synthetic tranqillizers like Xanax whether they need them or not.
These guys are being medicated with drugs PROVEN to increase incidents of suicide and violence. Psychotropes dampen or suppress inhibitions that normally would stop someone from committing acts they otherwise would not. Add Xanax and it is a double whammy. There is no self control. It allows sudden outbursts of rage that would otherwise be minor annoyances.
These drugs can account for the increases in domestic violence from returning Vets, AND many other things as well including suicide.
Something is very, very wrong here. VERY wrong. It should be stopped immediately.


141 posted on 08/19/2009 5:39:32 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

This is shutting them down too. It’s from a fellow FReeper and if anyone wants to use it, it’s at the top of my Profile page

“SO, Let me get this straight.

We’re going to get a health care plan shoved down our throats that is written by a committee whose head says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn’t read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a president that also hasn’t read it, and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that’s nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong?”


142 posted on 08/19/2009 5:40:08 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

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G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


143 posted on 08/19/2009 5:40:42 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: MestaMachine

You know too much.
You’ll be the first to the reeducation camp

(and btw, I worked Psych. You are absolutely correct)


144 posted on 08/19/2009 5:43:22 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Winged Hussar
These have been standard questions in every advanced directive in every hospital I have been in in the last 10 years. It didn't even include the question I'm asked ‘are you afraid at home” as I live by myself I always wondered about that one.
145 posted on 08/19/2009 5:45:33 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: netmilsmom
I love it!!!

My point is that they use our words and actions against us.....cuz it works!

We must do the same!
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146 posted on 08/19/2009 5:54:16 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (veritas odium parit)
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To: Winged Hussar

Horrendous. I hope some of our BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) conservatives here are rethinking their hatred of Bush. Maybe he wasn’t so bad after all...


147 posted on 08/19/2009 5:55:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: MilspecRob

A lot of these “questions” are actually suggestions planting the seeds of fear or doubt. If you are taking psychotropes, these kinds of “questions” feed the fear or create it where it did not otherwise exist. The mind does not have enough control to evaluate what is real from what is perceived. It is a horrible situation.
The mind is usually very stong. It can take a lot of stress and stay healthy. A mind on these kinds of drugs is like an empty blackboard waiting to be written on. Its natural defenses are gone. Most psychiatrists and psychologists KNOW this, and these suggestions attack the vulnerable subconscious part of the mind.
It is evil.


148 posted on 08/19/2009 6:03:34 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: netmilsmom

LOL Hits the mark!


149 posted on 08/19/2009 6:07:50 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks, wagglebee.

Bush is looking better and better. He also didn’t blow his own horn. I wish he had, more. There was plenty about his policies I didn’t like. But now he looks very, very good.


150 posted on 08/19/2009 6:10:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Old Sarge

Yes you can.....and you have a lot of company.


151 posted on 08/19/2009 6:21:58 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (~ RIP Brian...heaven's gain...the Coast Guard lost a good one.~)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

I do! Cause you’re right!


152 posted on 08/19/2009 6:25:26 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Winged Hussar

Maybe this will make people understand that humanism’s thirst for death knows no limits. It wants to kill the human spirit directly through “health care” or, if it can not get away with that, on a daily basis it works to kill human bonds, inspiration, beauty, kindness, trust, freedom, honor, loyality and love. It works to kill the reason for living.

Many think the culture war has to do with the fight for and against the killing of unborn children and “sin.” It is not best described as that. Humanist activists struggle for the power to kill the human soul and spirit in everyone from conception to death.

I helped a woman who was in an accident and came out paralyzed from the waist down when I was in my early twenties. When it first happened, she wanted to die. It was humbling, painful and it was difficult. Then the dark clouds passed and she has lived another twenty five years in love and joy - just like she was inside before the accident. She has more years yet to live.

When she said she just wanted to die, I would say, “well let’s see how you feel about it in a few months after we get through rehab...after we get you an apartment...after we get you a car... That is one kind of support to a person who is hurting and scared. I was inspired to help this woman with no family by the compassion and love of Christ because, otherwise, I really was not all that great of a person at that age.

And then there is the death warriors who would have said to her when she was down, “okay, I will help you die. Take these pills.” And they act like wolves standing over their prey when they get ahold of a mark. Once they get the unhappy, eldery or handicapped to sign off on this survey, it is their death sentence and humanists will use their power to keep you from interfering like they do with abortion.

People just do realize the dark spirit moving in and enveloping this society. I’m sorry to say, there is no stopping it through the State power. It owns the elite and it sells itself 24/7 in the culture and in education. It owns a lot of the medical profession and soon, it will own it all. We have each other and we need to be wise and protective of each other.


153 posted on 08/19/2009 6:32:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Winged Hussar

W
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This is just flat out evil.


154 posted on 08/19/2009 6:34:31 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Winged Hussar

How dare you question these socialist gods? They know what is good for the rest of us insects./s


155 posted on 08/19/2009 6:47:43 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SJackson; SunkenCiv; justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping.

Wow.

Read the WSJ article. I can send it to you if you want.


156 posted on 08/19/2009 6:53:05 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: Winged Hussar

This can’t be real. I just can not believe this.


157 posted on 08/19/2009 6:53:05 PM PDT by mel
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To: Jeffrey_D.

Great minds think alike.

Mark Steyn said the same thing.


158 posted on 08/19/2009 6:59:50 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping.


159 posted on 08/19/2009 7:00:18 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: Winged Hussar

OMG....
Obama is frickin’ evil. Just plain evil.


160 posted on 08/19/2009 7:04:25 PM PDT by visualops (this tagline has been reported to -redacted-)
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