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New Addington's most famous smoker to celebrate her 102nd birthday
Croydon Today ^ | August 15, 2009

Posted on 08/21/2009 5:06:00 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

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To: Mr Ramsbotham

**But it’s the process that gets me worried.**

Actually about 30% of smokers die of Cancer.. another 30% or so May die of emphysema... the Majority of smokers die of a much more mundane things like ... OLD AGE!!... and SO WHAT... those who will die of the first two aforementioned reasons, will die before reaching the age of Social Security, and will spend much less than the average OLD FART after reaching SS age.

I have to agree that ...why so many diehard Conservatives who preach limited govt.. turn in to WHINING SCREAMING LIBERALS.. all it takes is one word ... TOBACCO!!

When it comes to tobacco... the GREAT NANNY GOVERNMENT IS ALL KNOWING AND CAN DO NO WRONG...


21 posted on 08/21/2009 6:22:40 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: Drango
Are you using anecdotal evidence as indicating smokers live a long life?

It is actual evidence, not anecdotal.

Anecdotal evidence would be that busybodies tend to die young because they go through life agonizing that somebody, somewhere, might be having fun.

22 posted on 08/21/2009 6:23:12 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

My father died from a bad fall when he was 92. Open pack of Pall Malls and a zippo next to his chair by his ash tray.


23 posted on 08/21/2009 6:27:26 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
But it's the process that gets me worried.

My "process" will be knocking off as many nanny-staters as I can before the SWAT team gets to me.

24 posted on 08/21/2009 6:28:46 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

She’s 102 years old and this is the ONLY thing they could find publishable about her? sheeeeesh


25 posted on 08/21/2009 6:32:00 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Is this totally irrelevant to the post? Really? GOOD! THANK YOU!

(LC taking a bow)


26 posted on 08/21/2009 6:35:51 PM PDT by LiberConservative (OneBigAssMistakeAmerica)
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To: gwilhelm56
I have to agree that ...why so many diehard Conservatives who preach limited govt.. turn in to WHINING SCREAMING LIBERALS.. all it takes is one word ... TOBACCO!!

You're making the false assumption that any conservative who appreciates the dangers of smoking is a nanny-state liberal who wants to deprive smokers of their pleasure. Not true at all. Whether smokers should be persecuted by the government and whether smoking is good for you are two completely different propositions.

27 posted on 08/21/2009 6:53:10 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: mysterio

“For each of these cases, there are thousands who die in their 60s due to smoking.”

So you believe in global warming, as well, since it is exactly the same kind of pseudoscience that proves smoking causes disease as proves global warming. All bunk.

Hope you are happy with your government “high priests” of fear.

Hank


28 posted on 08/21/2009 6:59:20 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

**Whether smokers should be persecuted by the government and whether smoking is good for you are two completely different propositions.**

NEITHER is ANY of your CONCERN.

As for the False assumption, it’s totally correct, ever since Clinton’s Surgeon General released her REport saying that 2nd hand smoke was More dangerous than 1st hand smoke. So many usually decent Conservatives fell for it hook line and sinker. and all the LIberal Nanny staters did.

And YES, as per your previous statements... Your a Tobacco Nazi or a Cigarette NANNY STATER. Which makes you no better than a liberal..


29 posted on 08/21/2009 7:01:30 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: Hank Kerchief
it is exactly the same kind of pseudoscience that proves smoking causes disease as proves global warming.

lol
30 posted on 08/21/2009 7:07:55 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: elkfersupper
It is actual evidence, not anecdotal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

Anecdotal evidence

(2) Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. For example "my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99" does not disprove the proposition that "smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age". In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion

31 posted on 08/21/2009 7:18:31 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
Are control freaks born & bred or do they evolve?

Inquiring minds want to know.

32 posted on 08/21/2009 7:25:05 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: mysterio
If you smoke cigarettes, you have a large chance of dying of cancer ...

7%. That is seven out of one hundred smokers gets lung cancer.

33 posted on 08/21/2009 8:16:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: gwilhelm56
Actually about 30% of smokers die of Cancer..

Where did you find that figure? Many years ago I got the figure 7% from the American Heart and Lung Association but I have found it very difficult to find any published statistics anywhere in the last ten years.

34 posted on 08/21/2009 8:22:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: elkfersupper
My "process" will be knocking off as many nanny-staters as I can before the SWAT team gets to me.

The coroner will report to the NHS "he would have survived his bullet wounds if he wasn't a smoker. CoD - smoking."

35 posted on 08/21/2009 8:25:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 08/21/2009 8:29:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Better get those cigs away from her quickly. They are going to kill her. lol


37 posted on 08/21/2009 10:05:26 PM PDT by jerry639
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To: gwilhelm56
NEITHER is ANY of your CONCERN.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. My own health, and my right to speak about it, ARE most definitely MY concern. If you want to smoke, go for it. I enjoy my constitutional right to free speech and no half-wit jackass is going to tell me when and where to exercise it.

38 posted on 08/21/2009 10:48:26 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: TigersEye

Some tobacco Nazi walked up to me in a bar one day and said “Don’t you know that second hand smoke is killing us?” To which I replied, “That’s what I’ve been hoping.”


39 posted on 08/21/2009 11:17:26 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

LOL To which you could add “I’ve been looking for a faster method. Got any suggestions?”


40 posted on 08/21/2009 11:22:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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