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My H1N1 Story
AIPNEWS.com ^ | August 26, 2009 | JB Williams

Posted on 08/26/2009 4:24:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

For months the Obama administration has been working to scare the hell out of every American concerning a “world wide pandemic” of the H1N1 “swine flu” virus. This week, Obama health officials are out in number warning that the virus will infect 50% of Americans over the coming weeks, and that at least 90,000 Americans will die, double the number of normal flu season fatalities.

The information on the subject has been lies covered up with more lies and wrapped in an enigma of scattered half-truths and intentional misdirection from our fools in government. The incredibly poor handling of the matter leads one to wonder if the whole mess isn’t by intent...

My Personal Experience

A little over three weeks ago, my kids returned to school. A week after school started, we received an automated phone call from the school board notifying parents that the H1N1 flu had already shown up in the school district, but no specific schools in the county were named.

We asked our local school officials who advised that they knew of no outbreak at our local schools.

Last week, our son tried to help one of his friends who had taken ill on the bus ride to school, and was vomiting by the time he arrived at school. A few days later, our son was not feeling well and by Sunday, he was running a fever and in bed.

Monday, he was diagnosed with H1N1 “swine flu” by our family doctor and put on Tamiflu. He is managing just fine at present. But this is where the story gets very interesting.

According to the doctor, a patient is most contagious for 72 hours BEFORE any symptoms show, during which time the patient will continue on with life as usual, while unknowingly spreading the virus.

The doctor stated that her office has seen approximately 25 confirmed cases in the few days before seeing our son, from the same school. My wife asked why parents had not been notified and what the doctor said next was shocking...

ALL school boards and administrators have been issued a “hush notice” by the government, in which they are ordered NOT to make any “school specific” announcements concerning an outbreak of H1N1.

We then called the school principle and asked how many kids were out sick. On Monday, the principle stated that our son was only the second case he knew about. However, other lower level school officials had a different take on the matter, stating that a rapidly growing numbers of kids were leaving school sick.

Wednesday morning, our daughter woke up ill as well, and was immediately put on Tamiflu. Again we spoke to the school principles who still claimed to have no idea how many cases might be in the school, even though more than 30 kids were now missing from class and 17 High School teachers were already out with H1N1....

I have since talked two with school teachers in our extended family and in two other parts of the country, and they both immediately confirmed that a “gag order” from the government was in affect nationwide. By the time any “school specific” announcements are made, the school will be closed and many will be infected.

Despite the fact that the World Health Organization and the Federal Government have been all over the TV screen trying to create a panic over a swine flu pandemic for months now, the reason given for the “gag order” among schools and doctors is, so as not to create any “public panic.”

Bottom line, the government plan is to keep healthy kids in school with children already infected and spreading the disease until they show symptoms, at which time they are booted from school for a week. But the infection has already been passed...

Our H1N1 Experience

It is not bacterial, but a virus and it is air-born. So you can wash your hands all you want and it won’t avoid the virus.

In short, if you breathe air with someone exposed to the virus but not yet showing symptoms, you are almost certain to contract the virus. But you will not show symptoms for 3 to 5 days after exposure, during which time you will infect many others.

This explains why Federal health officials are on TV in force this week projecting that 50% of all Americans will be infected and an estimated 100,000 will die over the coming “flu season.”

Since the government is silent on letting parents know which schools are infected, parents will continue sending healthy children to class until they come home sick. On this basis, the 50% infected and 100,000 dead might be understated, as they are making NO serious attempt to stop the spread of the virus.

Suggesting that the government is in any way serious about stopping the spread of H1N1 is akin to suggesting they are serious about stopping the next 9/11 while refusing to close the borders.

Our current administration is one of two things... a) Completely incompetent, or b) Completely complicit in the H1N1 pandemic. There is NO other way to read their actions, or lack thereof.

Now the Good News

It ain’t easy to get Americans to vote for socialism. The natural public disgust with the mere idea that the Fed can somehow deliver better medicine than the medical profession is a clear signal that average Americans ain’t buying the Marxist horse manure pumping out of Washington DC leftists today.

So, a medical emergency that will throw every household into panic and financial stress could be helpful to the failing pursuit of socialized medicine among Democratic Socialists in charge of DC. I’m just sayin’..... How convenient.

However, so far, our personal experience is that the flu behaves no better or worse than any other set of flu symptoms. Obviously, good health habits and immediate attention go a long way towards managing any illness, including the flu.

So far, H1N1 seems to be no exception. Both of our kids are managing the illness much like any other flu. Neither my wife nor I are showing any symptoms yet, though I’m sure the likelihood is quite high, as we care for our two children, both of whom are ill.

In case you are wondering why public estimates range all over the board on the matter, I can now answer that question from first hand experience...

90% of H1N1 diagnosis stops at the local doctor’s office. Less than 10% of the cases confirmed by your local health care provider are ever shipped to the CDC for further official government confirmation.

But the government usually reports only the number of cases confirmed by the CDC. As a result, the real number of cases is actually TEN TIMES that being reported by the Fed or their adoring left wing press.

And, since we wouldn’t want to create a panic by giving parents information they have a right and a need to know, that number will continue to explode beyond all estimates offered.

The number already infected is more than ten times the number reported. Schools and doctors have been ordered NOT to release the name of schools showing an outbreak. Kids are not removed from school until they are showing symptoms, which is after they have already infected others for a few days, guaranteeing that the virus will continue to spread.

Conclusion

H1N1 may not be as lethal as reported, but your government is far more dangerous than you previously thought.

Are they stupid, or are they evil? They are one of the two or both. You decide...

As for me, it doesn’t really matter because the outcome is the same. A government bankrupted out of gross ignorance is no less bankrupt and an innocent citizen dead due to government ignorance is no less dead.

Be aware... But don’t be afraid!

I have lived under the belief that stupid policies are designed for stupid people, and therefore, they don’t apply to me.

I wanted the American people to have the information their government doesn’t want them to have. Do what you think best with this information!


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KEYWORDS: arth; flu; h1n1; influenza; swineflu
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To: EternalVigilance; Smokin' Joe

Smokin’ Joe does the freeper H1N1 Ping List

Also we’ve been posting ongoing swineflu articles here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278371/posts

H1N1 update stories on this thread: H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread]


61 posted on 08/26/2009 5:17:35 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: donna

Ah. Okay.


62 posted on 08/26/2009 5:18:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Independent Party - 'partisans only for the truth' - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: mom-7
Excellent question. The screening test has issues with accuracy.
63 posted on 08/26/2009 5:18:25 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t get much argument from the guy who wrote this about that.


64 posted on 08/26/2009 5:19:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Independent Party - 'partisans only for the truth' - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

Is he saying “it’s the principal of the thing,” then?


65 posted on 08/26/2009 5:20:36 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: DvdMom; Smokin' Joe

Hey, good work!

Maybe y’all could answer questions on this thread, then direct them to yours. This is not within my realm of expertise at all. :-)


66 posted on 08/26/2009 5:20:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Independent Party - 'partisans only for the truth' - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: silverleaf

I mentioned that same scenario on a thread last week. The swine flu kills you buy over doing the immune system.


67 posted on 08/26/2009 5:21:42 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: mad_as_he$$

I carry a squirt bottle of rubbing alcohol in my car. (Cheaper than Windex). I squirt it on my hands before I go into the store, restaurant, and church. Then again after I get back into the car.

Next thing I’m getting is a face mask, and a few extra for those who visit my house.


68 posted on 08/26/2009 5:21:47 PM PDT by Palladin (Obamacare=Emanuelcare=Mengelecare!)
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To: TruthConquers

Well, read the entire article. The doctor is speculating but he says:

“...people taking only 1,000–2,000 IU/day, with levels around 30 ng/mL, may risk death from a cytokine storm their body is unable to prevent. While only a theory, it would explain why the people with the allegedly highest 25(OH)D levels in both Mexico and 1918 (young adults) were the most likely to die. That is why I caution people that, if you are going to take Vitamin D, take enough, take 5,000 IU/day, which is usually enough to get your 25(OH)D levels into the mid range of the reference range (30–100 ng/mL), which would be 50–70 ng/mL.”

My Vit D3 arrived today. Now I have to find out from doctor when to start taking it and giving it to the kids, and how much. As he says. VitD3 is so potent it is medicine, not a vitamin supplement
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/h1n1-flu-and-vitamin-d.shtml


69 posted on 08/26/2009 5:21:57 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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To: WestCoastGal

OK, this is frightening.


70 posted on 08/26/2009 5:22:19 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: EternalVigilance

These sites have interesting information.

The 2nd site has threads on just about any question you might have. They have many nurses , doctors , & others who post there.

Comprehensive Flu Thread, Latest reports, States, Countries, Closings.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=330395&page=59

Just click to get on the main forum & this site does the best with info...

The below site has the answers in the main forum

http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?t=3232&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=705


71 posted on 08/26/2009 5:28:59 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: silverleaf

I also found that the article that I posted a link for showed up in your link in the detail answers section.

In fact “the presence of vitamin D also appears to suppress the pro-inflammatory cytokines. Thus, vitamin D appears to both enhance the local capacity of the epithelium to produce endogenous antibiotics and at the same time dampen certain destructive arms of the immune response, especially those responsible for the signs and symptoms of acute inflammation, such as the cytokine storms operative when influenza kills quickly.”

His real problem is that he finds 2000 IU too low and recommends a 5000 IU level MIGHT be better.

I was planning on taking the 2000 IU and take the high dose IF I came down with the flu this year.


72 posted on 08/26/2009 5:29:37 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Join Netflix so you do not have to go to the movies or to the video store.

I cancelled NetFlix when the CEO wrote an open letter to Obummer to raise taxes on all CEO's to 50% or more...He's a leftist Zero supporter....Blockbuster has a similar mail rental plan that's quite good...

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2180438/posts

73 posted on 08/26/2009 5:33:18 PM PDT by kara2008 (The Answer to 1984 is 1776 - Restore the Republic)
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To: silverleaf

I think that we are cross posting!!

Anyway, my understanding about VitD is that it can be over done. The average Vit D is oil soluble, I do not know about Vit D3. All oil soluble vitamins are easier to store and are not like the water solubles like Vit C or B’s. I am comfortable with the 2000 IU, but not too sure about the 5000 IU for a daily dose. I bet that Adelle Davis had levels like that. This is new info for me and I will need to think on it and do some reading.

Thank you.


74 posted on 08/26/2009 5:36:39 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: EternalVigilance
The science is fascinating. An overview was posted at PLoS yesterday here. This is the first influenza pandemic in the information era. Enormous amounts of data are being collected and disseminated worldwide at little cost. Watching this flu is almost like watching a hurricane form and move on TV.

Sure there is static out there but anyone in the world is a few clicks away from tuning it out.

I don't see how Obama can possibly benefit from this. Its not going to be another 1918 from what we see now, maybe not another 1957-58 but it sure ain't your regular flu. And his HSS screwed it up. So much so I suspect some of the anti-vax stuff is coming from his allies. I believe they want to 1. Lessen demand to make rationing less obvious. 2. Give the internet something to take about rather than their failure.

(my usual disclaimer: the safety of vaccines is a legitimate concern. I am not in any way disparaging those who express those concerns. I am not advocating one way or the other. It is an individual choice and I respect it. I am only pointing out the level of concern is way, way above normal. That has made my Rat Distraction Tactic alarm go off).

You mention, correctly, the liberty issue. One thing I do not understand are those who suspect there will be mandatory vaccinations. There isn't enough vaccine, Influenza A moves so fast forces couldn't be mobilized to force the public to take a shot and there is no profit in doing it that I can determine. So I'm at a loss as why the subject comes up on every thread. This administration is capable of most anything. But forcing everyone to get a shot? Why? Any attempt would fail immediately. The government can't even count how many people are in the country. Can't run Cash for Clunkers. Where is it going to get the manpower and the public support to fan out from Nome to Key West to Bar Harbor and force people to line up to be inoculated? Any attempt would blow up in their face.

75 posted on 08/26/2009 5:42:21 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: mad_as_he$$
From the CDC site here is a discussion of the accuracy of rapid influenza testing. It sounds like it is poor when the viral titers are low, and reasonable (up to 70% sensitivity) for higher titers. Sensitivity is up to 100% for the regular seasonal flu.
76 posted on 08/26/2009 5:46:29 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: silverleaf

FluTrackers is great! Used to read the Flu Clinic at Current Events when H5N1 was threatening . Not so informative anymore. Bunch of idiots libs run the place so good riddance to them anyways.


77 posted on 08/26/2009 5:46:43 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Ping!
You’ve got kids in school.
Did you see this?


78 posted on 08/26/2009 5:49:57 PM PDT by sneakers (Where'd my tag line go?)
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To: Brugmansian

I think you make some great points.


79 posted on 08/26/2009 5:50:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Independent Party - 'partisans only for the truth' - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: donna

I’m in western Pa, and I haven’t met anybody who had it.

Yesterday, however, I got a call from a lady in Birmingham, Alabama, doing family research, and she said it was really bad in her neck of the woods. She said a college sorority was closed down temporarily and 36 girls sick. A couple of schools closed. (They must start early down there - our kids aren’t in school yet!) Two deaths in the county - a 54 year old and a 21 year old. They had a local documentary on how to best protect yourself.

I was thinking the same as you, but when I hear reports like that....


80 posted on 08/26/2009 5:56:28 PM PDT by sneakers (Where'd my tag line go?)
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