For reasons best known to himself, David Frum has decided to suppress my side of the debate on his website. Thus my reply to his latest post (which follows below) doesn't appear on his website. Posted on 09/26/2009 11:08:16 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
For reasons best known to himself, David Frum has decided to suppress my side of the debate on his website. Thus my reply to his latest post (which follows below) doesn't appear on his website.
I agree with you David that this dialogue is getting more focused, and I find it much more pleasurable (and hopefully informative) as a result.
There are two issues here. One is a remarkable conservative outburst against the broadcaster Glenn Beck which includes you, Mark Levin and Pete Wehner among others, and which collectively wishes for his early self-destruction. The message from the three of you is that for the good of the conservative cause he should be silent -- and the sooner the better. Wehner expresses the judgment I detect in all three of your blasts in this sentence: “The role Glenn Beck is playing is harmful in its totality.” (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/100152) More than anything else, it is this that I am reacting to. I think this attitude is wrongheaded, absurd, destructive to the conservative cause and a blatant contradiction of the “big tent” philosophy which you otherwise support.
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Green eyed monster effect against Beck from our side.
The reasons are well known to everyone: Frum is a gonadless weasel
Hannity is remarkably icy toward Beck ( I’ve never heard him mention him). I attribute a lot of that to commercial reasons. As Hannity and Levin are pals, maybe Levin is just picking up for Hannity.
Hannty has his nose up Levin’s butt.
Then maybe Hannity should sound like a broken parrot and actually do some investigating himself instead of picking up on someone’s research and harping on how he is issuing “BREAKING NEWS” for four solid hours.
Scuse, I mean should NOT sound like...
Great. In-fighting. So productive.
Why can’t Levin and the rest of them just leave Beck alone? They don’t have to defend him, just leave him alone.
Hannity carried the radical Obama connection narrative for months, I suspect he sees Beck co-opting his work, plus having to share the Fox news platform now.
Levin was just pointing out how absurd Beck’s claim about McCain vis-a-vis Obama really is. I dont really see the big deal. Every conservative commentator is wrong at some point. That includes Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter and all of them.
Of course often being wrong is a matter of opinion. Being conservative is NOT just your views. And yes that “your” includes my own views. Conservatives have many issue on which there is some division and both sides can argue they are the conservative side.
It pains me when I hear Mark talk about the 5 PMer as if he were some sort of pariah. Levin can keep congratualting himself for his good writing, but the way I learned it the congratulating is supposed to come from other people. Horowitz is a great example of this. As good as his books are, I never hear him chirping about them. (Advertisements don't count.) Radical Son, especially, has turned several people I know away from the dark side.
ML/NJ
Dave Horowitz and Beck are a formidable duo. I’ve read Horowitz since “Destructive Generation”—I doubt that ACORN would be in the trouble its in right now without Horowitz.
Beck inflicts pain on the left.
Frum licks their face.
Frum is Canadian.
I try to watch Hannity, but his constant repetition is annoying and he doesn’t really say anything insightful like Rush does. I find Greta to be more interesting.
Well, that’s the real fracture line, because Hannity and Limbaugh and Levin , I suppose because I never hear him, are Republicans to a much greater depth than Beck. I think there will be a real schism when the Republicans are back in power. Just like FR was a much more unified place when most of us were here for the anti-Clinton fellowship.
Beck is saying little that Horowitz hasn’t been saying for decades now.
For whatever reason Horowitz has never struck a chord with the general public. It’s nice to see that he apparently doesn’t resent Beck’s success at popularizing his agenda.
I’m sorry, I know Hannity has said that Obama was ‘corrupt’ for months, but repeating ad nauseum “friends with the unrepentant Bill Ayers and chickens coming home to roost Rev. Wright” is not hard hitting investigation. At least Glenn provides links to NEW corruption. Not year long rants.
Correct on all but Limbaugh. Almost always right!
ML/NJ
Hannity was far down my list before he carried the ball on Wright and Ayers through ‘07-’08, then I got a lot more respect for him. I hope he gets Cashill on, or if he already has, I regret missing it.
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