Milton Friedman - Why Drugs Should Be Legalized

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[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Milton Friedman puts forward a compelling case for the legalization of drugs

[BillyKess]

Rich Lowry is also a pro-legalization for marijuana - not only for medical, but for recreational use.

I don’t see anything too wrong with pot being legalized, but I am kind of wary about the harder stuff.

However, if this does become legal, I think it should come with a condition. Anyone who wants to do drugs has to get a legalized document - such as a permit or license. And in order to get this, they need to forfeit their right to vote!

Yes. Because once on drugs, they’ll vote for people like Obama and other liberal Democrats.

They will also have to give up their license to drive a car. And if they have occupations like doctors, truck drivers, air traffic controllers, or anything where a foggy mind will put others in danger, they will either have to quit, or no “drug license”.

Also, before they get this “license to party”, they’ll have to pay a fee - as well as an annual renewal fee. (This will take care of the expenses involved in all the paperwork and such so that it is not burdened on the taxpayers)

I know - it brings more government into the whole thing, but like I said - charge them, not the taxpayers. And this will also take us off this whole “war on drugs” so we can focus on illegal immigration and terrorism and stuff that really threatens our nation - rather than someone puffing away at a joint in their own backyards.

[Ken H]

Because once on drugs, they'll vote for people like Obama and other liberal Democrats.

It's legal under Alaska law to possess a few ounces of pot in your home. They elected Palin as governor and went nearly 60% for McCain/Palin last election.

Maybe the conventional wisdom has it backwards!

[donna]

I’m sorry - your questions are too stupid to bother with. It’s time for you to grow up.

[DB]

No Donna.

I am “grown up”.

You know that when you have to go personal instead of address the issues at hand you’ve lost the debate.

Debate over.

[tuckrdout]

Listen cowboy, the constitition does not guarantee the right for any of us to use mind altering drugs. Those are NOT the freedoms that people died for. It just isn’t. You and your friends are the ones stretching the document to the breaking point.

Drugs ruin people, who ruin society. They make America weak. They are a tool of our enemies to bring us down, and they are doing just that. And there are many of us that will fight this stupid idea tooth and nail. So, you and your friends better come up with better more articulate arguments, because we are not going to give and sit down and smoke a joint!

[CowboyJay]

Listen cowboy, the constitition does not guarantee the right for any of us to use mind altering drugs.

Beg to differ. Any powers not specifically enumerated to the Federal Government in the Constitution are reserved to the individual states. Nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, in that document (the US Constitution), does it mention prohibitions on the hemp plant specifically or intoxicants in general. Off the top of my head, I can name at least one of the Signators on that document who actually grew it.

The 4th Amendment has already been effectively written out of the Constitution by the drug/alcohol warriors. The WOD is a clear-and-present danger to our way of life. It is being used to open unending constitutional breaches. Those breaches have been and will continue to be used in ways other than their original purpose. Ever hear of the Law of Unintended Consequences?

For the record - I don't use recreational drugs. I drink alcohol maybe once a year. Ad hom attacks based on psychological projection won't win anyone to your cause.

How far do you (extremely hypocritical in your personal case) prohibitionists want to take this? How ridiculous has it gotten, already? Corrections is already the number one industry in my state, Colorado. That's right, more money is spent on putting people away in Colorado than on Agriculture or Tourism. Incredible amount resources being thrown down the drain to fulfill the pipe-dreams of statist control freaks.

You're advocating that this should continue, status quo, or that we should be spending even MORE on this farce? We already have more people per capita locked up than the Soviets did under Stalin. Wake up. The gulags have failed. What's left? Death camps?

[microgood]

The 4th Amendment has already been effectively written out of the Constitution by the drug/alcohol warriors. The WOD is a clear-and-present danger to our way of life. It is being used to open unending constitutional breaches. Those breaches have been and will continue to be used in ways other than their original purpose.

Drug warriors are the biggest threat to the US Constitution in this country. They have also done extreme damage with Federal asset forfeiture laws which have corrupted our law enforcement to the greatest extent since prohibition. They have also resulted in the rise of SWAT and paramilitary police.

Despots all over the world can see the drug war as a means to acheive a military police state, just as they have in America. The drug warriors will be coming for our guns next.

[philman_36]

I'll be checking to see if you're here or not to get your reply.

[philman_36]

Listen cowboy, the constitition does not guarantee the right for any of us to use mind altering drugs.
Nor does it deny any of us that right. So where do we go now?

[BillyKess]

I try to stay away from this topic because it's one that tends to divide conservatives. It's considered a "liberal" belief to legalize pot, but on the other hand, it's also libertarian.

You have the old school conservatives dead against it. You have the younger conservatives who tend to be for it. Let's face it - all those studies that demonize and exaggerate the harmful effects of pot are just as biased as the leftwing's studies on global warming. NO I AM NOT SAYING POT IS HARMLESS - I am saying that it is not as harmful as many of these studies come out to say.

I will quote Rush Limbaugh on medical marijuana "The stuff is like GOLD for people who want to use it as pain relief. Let them have it!" (and he said this a couple of years before the whole oxy-contin thing. That's why when liberals call him a hypocrite, I always bring that up. He is not a hypocrite. He has always come out in favor of drugs that are used to kill pain)

Rich Lowry of National Review and frequent right wing commentator on FOX has written several articles promoting the legalization of pot not for just medical uses, but for recreational uses as well.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2E1MTE0ZTc0MGY4MmI5YTg2ZGViNTE1MmJkZTgxN2Y=#

As a conservative, I consider all Americans to be personally responsible until or unless they prove otherwise. I don't smoke pot, but as long as people can use it responsibly, I see no problem with it.

Don't drive on pot. Don't give it to your kids or other people's kids. Don't operate heavy machinery or engage in anything that may harm others. Period. Toke up all you want! Less government means just that. Who is to tell you that you can't smoke something that grows out of the ground? So as long as those basic rules are followed.

Legalize pot and let otherwise law obiding citizens out of jail and back home to their families. Legalize pot so that we can divert more resources to fighting the REAL drugs that matter - like cocaine and heroin. While we're busy chasing down a plant that when smoked makes one a little dopey and hungry, the real poison is making its way in that's REALLY killing people.

Please show me how many people have overdosed on pot as compared to heroin.

[Mojave]

I'll be checking to see if you're here or not to get your reply.

My very own obsessive stalker. How creepy.

[Mojave]

What happens when there are no elected representatives?

You mean when a leftist court invents a "right" to manufacture drugs? Like when the Alaska Supreme Court inserted a "25 marijuana plants" into the state Constitution and overruled a vote by the people to the contrary?

What happens when laws are passed by only one person?

Sounds like a federal district court judge overruling elected representatives and laws. The sort thing you on the left live for.

Whose will is being expressed then? Surely not "society's", wouldn't you agree?

Yep. Alaska's judicially invented 25 pot plant rule should go down.

[Steve Van Doorn]

”It's considered a "liberal" belief to legalize pot, but on the other hand, it's also libertarian.”

Actually I see it as a socialist law that was adopted by conservatives.

Once conservatives understand they are using socialist tactics to create this law i really believe they will drop it as they did in Alaska.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"Drugs ruin people, who ruin society."

so, you admit to use socialists laws to create harmony.

[Steve Van Doorn]

This pic reminded me of this thread. In order to be free we must have the right to be stupid.

[CowboyJay]

"You mean when a leftist court invents a "right" to manufacture drugs?"

The folks (WCTU) who brought us the alcohol and marijuana prohibitions were leftists. Christian Left to be more precise. The WCTU was essentially the KKK Women's Auxiliary.

[Tolsti2]

I can’t see any pic, but don’t worry. You’d well explained your need to be stupid. You’ll get no fight about me that you need that right more than anyone.

[Mojave]

The folks (WCTU) who brought us the alcohol and marijuana prohibitions were leftists.

Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were leftists? You must be one of those "Willie Brown" conservatives.

[CowboyJay]

"Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were leftists? You must be one of those "Willie Brown" conservatives."

Nixon? An authoritarian statist, and a Fabian Socialist (one-worlder).

Reagan? Reagan was essenially a libertarian. Said so himself. Nancy and Ed Meese were the 'true believer' drug warriors in that administration. Reagan was also responding at the time to pressure from a reconstituted...

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christian left.

He cozied up to them in an attempt to enlarge the GOP tent. The unfortunate fallout was the bastardization of Goldwater/Reagan conservatism into 'compassionate conservatism'.

I find it interesting that you didn't mention Clinton or the two Bushes. All 3 were fine drug warriors in their own right (and to the left of JFK, politically). More erosion of Posse Comitatus and 4A occurred under Clinton than anyone else mentioned here.

Who is "Willie Brown", and why should I care?

[Mojave]

Ronald Reagan “cozied” up to the left?

As surely as a dog returns to its vomit, these drug threads bring you Reagan haters out of the woodwork.