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Judge Carter Ruling on MTD
scribd ^ | 10/29/09 | Judge Carter

Posted on 10/29/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Elderberry

Judge Carter Ruling on MTD


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; carter; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; obamaisfafraud; obamathugs; orly; orlytaitz; romney4obama; romneyantigop; romneybotshere; romneybotsvsbirthers
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To: OldDeckHand

“...But, in 2012, his eligibility could be challenged by one of his Democrat opponents in the primary...”

How about one of his Republican opponents as well? They would have an equal stake in the matter.


141 posted on 10/29/2009 11:30:53 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: OldDeckHand

“And, it appears that the Smith declaration alleging Orly asked him to commit perjury was “real” and it was delivered. Carter references it, and perhaps another deceleration that Orly allegedly suborned perjury. He writes in his order that the court is “deeply concerned” about it.”


I am concerned about that allegation from Carter as well. If it is true, Orly has cooked her goose. Only Bill Clinton is above the law when it comes to perjury.


142 posted on 10/29/2009 11:31:11 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Or!

The judge is correct. And you are incorrect.


143 posted on 10/29/2009 11:31:51 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

They practice judicial tyranny on a daily basis. Judges overturn the electorate’s wishes as a matter of practice.


144 posted on 10/29/2009 11:33:08 AM PDT by chris37
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To: El Gato

I suspect the Judge may have been paid a visit from one of 0bama’s “Truth Squads” and given an offer he couldn’t refuse.


145 posted on 10/29/2009 11:33:14 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

I really doubt Orly asked anyone to lie. Look at how she is discredited right here on FR.


146 posted on 10/29/2009 11:33:33 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: NCC-1701
"How about one of his Republican opponents as well?"

Yes, of course and the RNC could challenge it. I didn't include it in my post to you because I mentioned it up-thread.

147 posted on 10/29/2009 11:33:47 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: kidd
...prior to Obama’s swearing-in, Alan Keyes DID have standing

I suggest you read that again. Judge Carter noted that Keyes claim to damages, since he received less than one percent of the votes cast, was "too speculative to establish standing."

...- after Obama’s swearing in, Obama IS POTUS and can only be removed by Congress. Only Congress has standing, as is outlined in the Constitution.

He didn't say that either.

148 posted on 10/29/2009 11:35:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: lucysmom
The "mob" in this case is Orly and her followers.

So, to you, enforcement of The Constitution, is akin to placating a "howling mob"? Something tells me you'd like to be an 0bama groupie.

149 posted on 10/29/2009 11:35:37 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - When 0bama Fails, Freedom Prevails!)
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To: MilspecRob
No , But this aroused some interest that a criminal investigation of Orly may be next. "This Court is deeply concerned that Taitz may have suborned perjury through witnesses she intended to bring before this court"

Funny, that part wasn't in the post I responded to.

Your post reflected your approval of a judge upholding the very same doccument that zer0 is shredding and stuffing up our collective arses

150 posted on 10/29/2009 11:36:10 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: mojitojoe

Loosing runs in your family?


151 posted on 10/29/2009 11:36:24 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BigGuy22

No doubt they will dismiss as well.


152 posted on 10/29/2009 11:36:25 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SaraJohnson
"Only Bill Clinton is above the law when it comes to perjury. "

While Clinton escaped criminal liability because of the politics of issue, he didn't escaped entirely unscathed. Remember, he lost his license to practice law for a period of time - I think 5 years, or longer - and the sanction levied against him by the Federal District judge was fairly significant, IIRC.

153 posted on 10/29/2009 11:36:54 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: kidd

“...As soon as Obama officially declares himself a candidate for 2012, anyone who decides to run for POTUS can file suit for proof of eligibility....”

Let’s say that happens. Wouldn’t he have to declare for re-election by 2011? Say a Pub throws their hat in the ring then. He ore she could ask for it right off the bat. If he then produces it and it shows what we all think it shows, and it proves he is an illegal usurper, couldn’t he be kicked out of office then and there? That would mean we would have to deal with this PØS for another two years.

Well, I can dream can’t I?


154 posted on 10/29/2009 11:37:24 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: Grunthor

When the lying marxist fraud is finally exposed as the “usurper” that Taitz claims, she will be vindicated.


155 posted on 10/29/2009 11:37:46 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SaraJohnson
Someone up thread claims Carter is accusing Orly of perjury in his decision. I hope for her sake, she did not do that.

What Judge Carter wrote:

Additionally, the Court has received several sworn affidavits that Taitz asked potential witnesses that she planned to call before this Court to perjure themselves.

He is not accusing her of perjury, he is says that others have accused Orly of asking them to perjure themselves.

156 posted on 10/29/2009 11:38:04 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I suspect the Judge may have been paid a visit from one of 0bama’s “Truth Squads” and given an offer he couldn’t refuse.

What??? A stand up Marine like Judge Carter knuckling under to Obama's henchmen????? What does that say about him?

157 posted on 10/29/2009 11:38:15 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I don't think anyone else has standing at any other time.

Meaning that the Constitution is now only for politicians?

158 posted on 10/29/2009 11:38:48 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Non-Sequitur

No, the judge had a lengthy discussion in his opinion about this. Prior to the swearing-in of Obama, McCain AND Alan Keyes both had standing. The judge was very careful not to exclude a candidate because they were a minor candidate.

The judge considers the swearing-in ceremony the point at which Obama IS POTUS. Now, only Congress has standing.


159 posted on 10/29/2009 11:39:27 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: pissant
When the lying marxist fraud is finally exposed as the “usurper” that Taitz claims, she will be vindicated.

Well you had better hurry. Otherwise Orly may find herself without a law license and $20k poorer.

160 posted on 10/29/2009 11:39:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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