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Brazil: 'Gringos' Must Pay to Keep Rainforests
Newser ^ | 11-26-09

Posted on 11/27/2009 1:10:02 PM PST by geddylee

Brazil's president says "gringos" should pay Amazon nations to prevent deforestation, insisting rich Western nations have caused much more past environmental destruction than the loggers and farmers who cut and burn trees in the world's largest tropical rain forest.

"I don't want any gringo asking us to let an Amazon resident die of hunger under a tree," Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva said ahead of an Amazon summit. "We want to preserve, but they will have to pay the price for this preservation because we never destroyed our forest like they mowed theirs down a century

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: brazil; racists; rainforest
So let's see... The gringos have to pay for the ruined forests of Brazil, and the Africans want the gringos to pay 100 billion a year for the climate change ponzi scheme.

I don't know about you guys, but my family (we are a family of gringos ) we were having our Thanksgiving dinner and talk turned to the state of the nation/world. Basically, we discussed how the country is in a depression, people are losing their homes/jobs and all Obama can do is talk about healthcare, immigration and climate change? Then, talk turned to CW2 and it was really a great turkey by the way.

1 posted on 11/27/2009 1:10:03 PM PST by geddylee
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To: geddylee
Rainforest shmainforest. Burn the whole damn thing down.


2 posted on 11/27/2009 1:12:51 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: geddylee

And if we don’t pay?


3 posted on 11/27/2009 1:13:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: geddylee
I say, let Sting and Penn pay for their part of the rain forests and let the Brazilians mow down all of the forests they want. I have a farm with over half in trees. I am doing my part so screw the Marxist SOB’s down there.
4 posted on 11/27/2009 1:14:06 PM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: geddylee

Interesting that every nation directly south of the United States is either a Third World craphole....or a nation just teetering on Third World c-hole status?

And, the US should not pay one cent because Brazil decided to chop down its Amazon rainforests.....the nerve and classlessness of Lula da Racist....


5 posted on 11/27/2009 1:15:49 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American Bigotry)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Come and get it.


6 posted on 11/27/2009 1:17:30 PM PST by bboop
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To: geddylee

His point is similar to yours. The Greens are big on asking people to put themselves into an economic depression to save a tree.

You and I don’t think much of the idea, and neither do the Brazilians. He’s saying, if you don’t want me to cut the tree, buy the tree. If you don’t want Brazilians settling their own rain forest, then buy the acreage you want to preserve.

I think enviros should have to pay for their bright ideas from their own pockets. If they want a preserve, let them buy the land with their own money and do with it as they like. Don’t tell others what to do with their property.


7 posted on 11/27/2009 1:18:00 PM PST by marron
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To: geddylee

Brazil: ‘Gringos’ Must Pay to Keep Rainforests

Up yours! (a gringo)


8 posted on 11/27/2009 1:18:22 PM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: geddylee
we never destroyed our forest like they mowed theirs down a century

Hmmmmmm. Seems to me I've read in several places that there is more forest in the US than there was in the time of the Pilgrims.

9 posted on 11/27/2009 1:19:38 PM PST by CaptRon
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To: geddylee

Isn’t that nice how minorities can use racial slurs against whites whenever they feel like it? And the president of a country, no less.


10 posted on 11/27/2009 1:19:57 PM PST by DCurts
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To: Common Sense 101

Some Gringo needs to give both Lula and Chavez the Salvador Allende treatment.


11 posted on 11/27/2009 1:23:17 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: Common Sense 101

Multiple books have been published, showing the importance of natural ecosystems to a nation state.

Guns, Germs, and Steel is a perfect example. Most countries that devastate their natural habitat doom themselves.

If the Brazilians want to suffer from runoff, acid leaching, deforestation, loss of natural wildlife, and erosion, then more power to them. Their whole country can turn into one giant favela for all I care. Well, more of one, I guess.


12 posted on 11/27/2009 1:24:41 PM PST by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: geddylee
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Doesn't that friggin' idiot, Lula, realize that preseving the rain forest is a beneficial to Brazil as it is to the "rich gringos"?
13 posted on 11/27/2009 1:24:52 PM PST by Old Seadog (Always do a little more than is expected, and someday .....it will be expected.)
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To: geddylee

Nothing like insulting someone during a sales pitch.

My response: No va!


14 posted on 11/27/2009 1:26:23 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: geddylee

Who Cares what they do? They need to go cry to someone who gives a damm.


15 posted on 11/27/2009 1:29:13 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: CaptRon

Could be true. An example - it’s hard today to trace unit movements on some Civil War battlefields in the east because forests have replaced 1860s farm land.


16 posted on 11/27/2009 1:31:28 PM PST by Strzelec
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To: geddylee
Brazil's president says "gringos" should pay

I'd like to put my gringo foot up his arse.

17 posted on 11/27/2009 1:32:52 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: The Black Knight

That is not what the book states. The book shows that any civilization that cultivates wheat or rice, can feed their population with less farmers and free the others to do other pursuits like crafts and metallurgy. Furthermore nations that have animal husbandry also catch various poxes from the animals like chicken pox, cow pox, small pox and etc and their population become immune to such diseases. Thus when the Europeons contact the Indians in the new world that live the environmentalist utopia (clean air, clean water) they died from the poxes.


18 posted on 11/27/2009 1:34:18 PM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: geddylee
When Venezuela invades Brazil, don't come crying to us.
19 posted on 11/27/2009 1:34:40 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: geddylee

Lu Lu is stark raving mad I tell you! There are more trees in North America as we speak than when Sitting Bull was but a twinkle in his daddy’s eyes. This “gringo” isn’t buying this shakedown.


20 posted on 11/27/2009 1:35:29 PM PST by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: geddylee
Direct result of the Obama “Apology Tour.”
21 posted on 11/27/2009 1:35:43 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: geddylee

I actually agree with this guy. I don’t care if they cut down some forest and develop their land. I don’t even care if they use DDT.


22 posted on 11/27/2009 1:40:08 PM PST by Tramonto (Live Free or Die)
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To: Fee

My apology. I meant “Collapse”, Jered Diamond’s wonderful sequel. He lists different cultures, and what led to their collapse. Environmental factors were prevalent in almost all of them. I think Brazil should read the section on Haiti, to see what happens when they cut their trees down.


23 posted on 11/27/2009 1:40:45 PM PST by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: geddylee
Logging is farming, just on a larger more impressive scale. As long as you replant or cut selectively, the forests remain and provide forest products indefinitely. If you clear cut just to create farm land like they are doing in Brazil. Eventually it will cause problems, but it's their land.
24 posted on 11/27/2009 1:41:32 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: geddylee
Headline:

"Gringos Invite Wetback Presdient of Brazil to Bite Them, Expire Puking"


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

25 posted on 11/27/2009 1:42:52 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: geddylee

I think that this is more of a ‘put up or shut up’ to the greenie eco-meddlers that are constantly harping on Brazil’s rain forests, rather than a ‘give us money or the rain forest gets it’ to Americans at large.


26 posted on 11/27/2009 1:45:58 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: geddylee

“There was a man in the jungle, trying to make ends meet
Found himself one day with an axe in his hand
When a voice said “Buddy can you spare that tree
We gotta save this world - starting with your land.”

- Obvious Song
by Joe Jackson


27 posted on 11/27/2009 1:46:46 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: geddylee

Perhaps the racist dolt Lulu La La shoulc check his facts about American forsests, etc. There are now more trees in America than when the Pilgrims landed here. The US plants millions of trees every year.

Another psycho South American lecturinig us from their 3rd world banana hell hole.

As Lulu if you’re safe on the streets in Brazil in Rio or Sao Paulo, etc, not to mention Caracas, Venezuela, or Bogata, or how many places in Columbia or even with our esteemed neighbors to the South, Mexico.

Africa, South America and the Middle East, dangerous hell holes.


28 posted on 11/27/2009 1:53:51 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Disambiguator
“My response: No va!”

And it means........?

(Hint - they speak Portuguese in Brazil).

29 posted on 11/27/2009 1:55:44 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: geddylee

We can be called gringos, crackers, honkies, et al and the world doesn’t bat an eye. But just refer to a Mexican as a wetback or spic, or a black as a you-know-what, and we’re talking hate crimes.


30 posted on 11/27/2009 2:13:52 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: geddylee

The area of forest in the US has been growing in recent decades, and (by the way) we have essentially no tropical rain forests here.

No one should pay any serious attention the Brazilian leader.


31 posted on 11/27/2009 2:19:37 PM PST by docbnj
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To: geddylee

...so telling the Brazilians how to live is “racist” and forcing our lifestyle on them, but telling me what kind of car to drive and what kind of lightbulbs to us is okay?


32 posted on 11/27/2009 2:20:14 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: cripplecreek

Let ‘em eat trees...


33 posted on 11/27/2009 2:24:16 PM PST by Clioman (wHAT)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

It means No Go.

There was a famous marketing story about Chevrolet promoting a particular model of car they used to make, and it didn’t do well in Brazil; the Nova.


34 posted on 11/27/2009 3:05:32 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: geddylee

I read this as his telling the Western environmentalists and governments to take a flying leap.


35 posted on 11/27/2009 3:12:17 PM PST by decimon
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To: geddylee

The Brazilians have nothing this gringo wants

Sooo.....

Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva,

Come and get it.


36 posted on 11/27/2009 3:31:09 PM PST by RedMonqey (You only think you are free.....)
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To: ought-six

Well if you can say wetback or spic,why can`t you say nigger?


37 posted on 11/27/2009 3:37:32 PM PST by nomad
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To: RU88

Most (ALL) Brazilians I know like lula about as much as we do oBOWma. Lula’s an uneducated idiot who got to power by lying to the ‘peasants” and being a union thug.


38 posted on 11/27/2009 3:41:24 PM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: rabscuttle385

“You white Americans make me sick! You waste food, oil, and everything else because you’re so rich, and then you tell the rest of the world to save the rainforest because you like its pretty flowers.”


39 posted on 11/27/2009 3:43:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: geddylee

So now I’m a gringo... hmmm. Does that mean I can call them names that refer to their skin/culture? Oh wait, only *I* can be a racist. No wonder I don’t give a rats a** what they think.


40 posted on 11/27/2009 4:06:13 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: nomad

I just assumed if I did my post would be deleted.


41 posted on 11/27/2009 4:14:23 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

Really,thought you were just suffering from partial PCitis.Well if you`re going to talk the talk do it right,or don`t do it at all.


42 posted on 11/27/2009 4:25:03 PM PST by nomad
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To: geddylee

Here’s a Bic lighter and a can of charcoal starter. Knock yourself out, Lulu.


43 posted on 11/27/2009 4:57:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; ...

Hammer (& sickle), axe, and saw. Check out the nuts on Brazil.


44 posted on 11/27/2009 5:45:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: geddylee

CW2. Yup, I hope its coming. I’m ready. This buttplug in The White House has got to go and 2012 is too far off.


45 posted on 11/27/2009 6:59:14 PM PST by JoeMac (''Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more''. Popeye The Sailorman)
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To: geddylee

Someone needs to inform this guy that the North American continent apparently has more forest now than since nearly when Columbus arrived.


46 posted on 12/01/2009 8:20:43 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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