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Question for Palin Supporters. What will you do if Sarah does not win the '12 pub nomination?
11-28-09 | Bob J

Posted on 11/28/2009 12:35:32 PM PST by Bob J

I understand most Palin supporters have already handed her the '12 nomination, but a primary can be unpredictable and bruising. My question is, what will you do if for some reason Sarah does not win the '12 pub nomination? Stay home, vote 3rd party or support the nominee (if it is one of todays potential but established candidates)?

This is a "what if" question. If you don't have the capacity to contemplate a Palin primary loss then please find another thread on which to slobber and slander (although I seriously doubt this request will be honored).


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To: Cyber Liberty

I like her also, but I am not convinced the final nominees name has come forward yet.


251 posted on 11/28/2009 3:54:05 PM PST by JIM O
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To: OldDeckHand

That might be true (it might also be the white guilters getting some buyer’s remorse that is driving his poll numbers down). But in 2012, the left-wing media will tell the GOP that to win they need to go left to attract the “independents” of Iowa and NH. The GOP will, as usual, believe them and start pushing the RINOs to the front in another attempt at building that big tent.


252 posted on 11/28/2009 4:01:06 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I will support anyone she supports. I would rather see her in the Senate or House but—I will follow what ever plan she has because she is the only one with a real plan and not a re-tred of an old idea. If she says go 3rd Party—I will (but, I don’t think she will) If she says sit out the election—I will (but, I don’t think she would ask that as well) She knows what she is doing. I will trust her over the Country Club Republicans who gave us Dole and McCain.


253 posted on 11/28/2009 4:08:39 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Bryanw92
"But in 2012, the left-wing media will tell the GOP that to win they need to go left to attract the “independents” of Iowa and NH."

I'm sure they will. And, whomever the GOP chooses, the MSM will try and portray them as an out of the mainstream "right-winger", much like the Washington Post did with Bob McDonnell in Virginia.

McDonnell offers the GOP, and their perspective candidates, an interesting case-study in how to get plainly conservative candidates elected. McDonnell can be described as nothing other than an orthodox conservative. But, he ran a campaign that sounded much more centrist, and specifically economic issues oriented.

Whomever can replicate that formula of satisfying the base while still appealing to the center, will crush Obama.

254 posted on 11/28/2009 4:12:54 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

My Bet is that Hillary will challenge Obama after a public fight with him (this is only if his poll numbers drop)and I think she can win in the end. What ever the GOP does is up in the air—it could go anyway. I just don’t want the same old faces—no Bushes, no Mitts, No Rudi Tooties, No McClaims. Let the Conservatives have a chance this time.


255 posted on 11/28/2009 4:13:03 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: BunnySlippers
you "party uber alles" types, with no honor and no principles are the reason the gop is in the tank and about to be flushed down the toilet of history.

Toward FREEDOM!

256 posted on 11/28/2009 4:19:32 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member) 3%)
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To: Moorings; Bob J

Over 1 Hr. ago I posted to Bob J the following and No answer
What ever Bob says can’t be taken seriously or as anything
from an adult. This is typical of a Sarah Palin basher.

Who is your candidate?

99% on FR who bash and make snarky remarks about Sarah Palin
will not say who they support saying it is too early or I don’t know because they can’t defend their candidate
and can’t take the heat.


257 posted on 11/28/2009 4:24:33 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

I’ve written letters to the RNC and told them that they need to reward the states with the strongest Republican voting percentages by giving them the first primaries,


I thought that election processes were a state function and not something dictated by some political party.


258 posted on 11/28/2009 4:26:28 PM PST by deport (95 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: rabidralph; Bob J
If she doesn’t win the nomination, then I hope the nominee is just as conservative and principled as she. I will not support another moderate republican nominee.

There's always Huck. He's not completely lacking of any conservative and principled capacity.

(Just mostly lacking...)

259 posted on 11/28/2009 4:31:40 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Bob J

What did you do when Reagan didn’t win the 1976 nomination?


260 posted on 11/28/2009 4:31:56 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Bob J

I will support the candidate with the best chance of defeating Obama.


261 posted on 11/28/2009 4:34:04 PM PST by sand lake bar (Obama: Take away my 1st Amendment and you'll force me to use the 2nd.)
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To: mc6809e

Her personal philosophy includes individual liberty before government intrusion, private property rights, a strong national defense (that is, a military free from political correctness), a belief in an absolute moral code.

A strong majority of Americans support this philosophy.


262 posted on 11/28/2009 4:34:52 PM PST by reasonisfaith (When liberal ideology is put into practice it accomplishes, universally, the opposite of its claims.)
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To: Bob J

“You’re right. I’ll do a 180 and from now on depict to her worshippers as supporters.”

You know, until I got this far on your thread, I thought I had the franchise on arrogant ass, but you got me whooped.

Note to self: Avoid threads with this jerk’s name on them.


263 posted on 11/28/2009 4:35:43 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: Bob J

Principles vs Marxism.

That sums up the stakes.


264 posted on 11/28/2009 4:37:15 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: eaglestar

I gotta believe other good solid Republican conservatives will emerge by 2012 .....

Palin is great, but we can’t view her as the be-all end all of conservative movement.

That would spell death, especially if something were to occur which put her in the unelectable category.


265 posted on 11/28/2009 4:39:16 PM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

McCain is a RINO if there ever is one. So, did you stay home or vote third party? Proud of yourself?


266 posted on 11/28/2009 4:40:20 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Bob J
I don’t have a preferred candidate as of today. As far as I can tell, no one has announced they’re running yet.

Are you avoiding answering the question?

The fact that nobody "has announced...yet" hasn't stopped you from starting a thread asking others who they would vote for.

And many have politely given you their thoughts on what they would do.

So, why don't you return the favor and tell us, who would you like to see run?

267 posted on 11/28/2009 4:47:02 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

You don’t think anyone will challenge Zero? I’m thinking if he keeps on like this he may be vulnerable from within.


268 posted on 11/28/2009 4:49:18 PM PST by leapfrog0202
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To: Secret Agent Man

He’s a pompous jerk.

And I loath name calling.


269 posted on 11/28/2009 4:55:14 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: Bob J
If the GOP candidate is another McStain RINO, I will toss a coin between staying home and voting third party. Not even JimRob himself can convince me to vote for another knucklehead, again.
270 posted on 11/28/2009 4:58:20 PM PST by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: Bob J

If there is a Conservative candidate I’ll support them.


271 posted on 11/28/2009 4:58:31 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: gopno1
Bush 43? Uh, no. Dole? No. He was an establishment GOP pick who was “due”.

I don't agree at all.

Your telling me that the dominant leftwing media didn't push Bush II and Dole with polls and coverage several years before their nominations?

I agree with the so-called "mantra". The left pushes the candidates they want to see. It's up to us this election cycle to break from that trend.

272 posted on 11/28/2009 4:59:48 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Bryanw92
But in 2012, the left-wing media will tell the GOP that to win they need to go left to attract the “independents” of Iowa and NH. The GOP will, as usual, believe them and start pushing the RINOs to the front in another attempt at building that big tent.

The GOP doesn't give money to any of the presidential candidates vying for the nomination.

273 posted on 11/28/2009 5:02:06 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Bob J

If Palin does not get the nomination, it will be up to whoever does to win my vote.


274 posted on 11/28/2009 5:03:30 PM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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To: BunnySlippers

“This thread is really depressing. I question how seriously I can take people who dislike Obama but won’t vote to get rid of him.

“Disgusting!”

Dislike Obama? That’s irrelevant. Personally, I disliked Nixon a lot more.

The problem is that Obama is decidedly against American values and is anti-freedom. RINOs are different only in degree. The problem is not whether I like them. Joe Biden is probably a nice guy, if a doofus.

The problem is their philosophy and politics, and that they all, including the RINOs, need to be driven out of office in disgrace, if not handcuffs and manacles.

I would not see a difference in voting for Obama and voting for Romney, Crist, or Huckabee. All are nice nough guys. All would lead us to a socialist, totalitarian State. There would just not be a real American patriot on the ticket, and I would have no choice, so why vote for either?

I’d probably stay home and pray for the Repubic.


275 posted on 11/28/2009 5:05:46 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

Did you vote for McCain, stay home or vote third party?


276 posted on 11/28/2009 5:08:49 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Bob J

I’d vote for whomever is the nominee, but I’d be very disappointed if Palin didn’t win.


277 posted on 11/28/2009 5:08:54 PM PST by euram
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To: wagglebee
- What does “never working out” look like on your planet?

- "A baby being murdered every 24 seconds, federal debt in the trillions and a federal government that is completely out of control."

It's interesting to me that none of the party hacks have commented on your statement in response to that smart-ass question. Fascinating. Illuminating.

278 posted on 11/28/2009 5:12:52 PM PST by wolf24
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To: leapfrog0202

I’ve no idea what will become of 0bama, his presidency or our country. Maybe he won’t even want to be POTUS in 2012. Let’s hope that’s what happens, because if the Dem nomination is wrapped up by an incumbent who has learned how to wield power, it’s over for us. :(


279 posted on 11/28/2009 5:13:57 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: wolf24

Both Bushes were fine on foreign policy and GWB was pretty good on taxes, but on everything else there was little difference between the Bushes and Clinton. Dole and McCain would have been basically the same as Clinton.


280 posted on 11/28/2009 5:17:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BunnySlippers

I voted for the RINO who picked Palin for VP. Was that McCain? I forget.


281 posted on 11/28/2009 5:19:23 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
The problem is that Obama is decidedly against American values and is anti-freedom. RINOs are different only in degree.

I don't agree at all. Generally speaking, RINO's like McCain, Grahamnesty, Collins vote conservative about half the time and they vote liberal about half the time.

A tyrant like Obama is a statist 100% of the time (or close to it).

All one needs to do is look at the voting records to see the difference.

Hey, I have no problem if one wishes not to vote for a RINO (when given the choice of a RINO or Obama). But I do have a problem with someone who rationalizes that vote by comparing a RINO to a 100% certified tyrant as being only different in degree.

282 posted on 11/28/2009 5:19:35 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Bob J

I’m an ABO voter.


283 posted on 11/28/2009 5:19:57 PM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: Bob J
I don’t have a preferred candidate as of today. As far as I can tell, no one has announced they’re running yet.

Let’s do this, if Sarah loses and you can’t support any of the established potential nominees, who would you support?

284 posted on 11/28/2009 5:23:57 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
If 0bama announces he’s running for reelection, no Democrat will dare to challenge him for the nomination. Therefore the Dem primaries will be foregone conclusions and nobody will have to vote in them. Then, all the Democrats will be free to switch parties for the purpose of voting in Republican primaries, hoping to secure the nomination of the weakest Republican in the herd. And that’s not Sarah Palin.

Dems will vote for “anybody but Palin” in Republican primaries. They fear her, with good reason. We need to do something to avert this possibility, and do it now, not later.

That is precisely my concern as well. But, with the leadership the party has now I confess I see no obvious answer other than for all primary voters to recognize the "Operation Chaos" scenario if it unfolds, and unify around a candidate whom conservatives can enthusiastically support.

And IMHO the logical person for that role is: Sarah Palin.

The question is how to keep a Huckabee from splitting the conservative vote. And perhaps in that context the threat of a split is as necessary as it is unavoidable. Perhaps the best outcome of this book tour would be a

Draft
Palin

movement, before anyone else has a chance to lay the groundwork for a run.


285 posted on 11/28/2009 5:38:58 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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To: BunnySlippers; Bob J; A Navy Vet; dcwusmc; Jeff Head; Jim Robinson
In 2001, there was a "Recall McCain" campaign going on in Arizona before 9/11. I called for that to happen back in the mid-90s. When they shut down the recall campaign after 9/11, I told the people running the recall that it was a mistake. So yes, I know, and have known since the 80s, who and what that POS was and is. He has dishonored my state, he has dishonored the country and he has dishonored my Navy. I'd say he has dishonored himself, but he is WITHOUT honor.

And to answer your question, am I proud of myself? Not voting for McLame is NOTHING to be ashamed of. The fact is that if he had been elected, we'd already have cap-n-tax, universal healthcare and all the other marxist programs that this administration is trying to get passed, only it would have been with repukelician support.

I have nothing but loathing and contempt for that rooster-sucking marxist POS, as I do for the current _resident in the (once) White House.

I will NEVER again vote for the lesser of evils. EVIL is still EVIL, regardless of degree.

For BobJ: the question was posed to you:

Who is your candidate?
99% on FR who bash and make snarky remarks about Sarah Palin will not say who they support saying it is too early or I don’t know because they can’t defend their candidate and can’t take the heat.

And your "reply" at #231 was as predicted. I don’t have a preferred candidate as of today. As far as I can tell, no one has announced they’re running yet.

I have been asked to give you the benefit of the doubt by others and work with you on stuff, because of the "good" you've done in the past for FR and conservative causes. NOPE, you're as big an idiot and "party uber alles" dirtbag as BunnySlippers is. If you're involved in any conservative cause, I'll presume it's because you're there to derail it and let my views be known to everyone else involved. You disgust me almost as much as McLame and the current _resident of 1600 Penna. Ave.

Jim, if this post is out of line, please feel free to give me my timeout ..... :D

Toward FREEDOM!

286 posted on 11/28/2009 5:42:28 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member) 3%)
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To: PAR
Sorry, I'm no longer interested in playing the game ‘vote for x, because y is REALLY awful.’ If x wants my vote, they can campaign for it, represent my views, views that time and time again surveys have shown reflect the majority of Americans.

My vote is no longer a given, no longer free, no longer for rent, unlike my party. Even to unseat the dreaded Obama.

287 posted on 11/28/2009 5:42:31 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: FreeReign
I see your point, but respectfully submit it amounts to asking to be garroted rather than shot. We are dead either way, It's just slower to be garroted. Either way, RINO or Obama, it's the end of the Republic.

The only way to reverse the disastrous trend of the post-Reagan years is to find someone who will stop voting for red socialism “half” the time and pink socialism the other half.

288 posted on 11/28/2009 5:46:18 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: FreeReign

So what? There are other ways of promoting a candidate, such as talking to the big money supporters and making sure that they all support the guy the party wants by convincng them that there’s only one “electable” candidate.


289 posted on 11/28/2009 5:48:12 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority)
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To: Neil E. Wright

McCain has come out strongly against government run health care. Yet he is a RINO as far as I’m concerned.


290 posted on 11/28/2009 5:55:23 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

Same thing happened to me.

Sometimes you are better off with the RINO rather than a full blown America hating Socialist like Obama and his wife. We can’t handle another 4 years of Obama. I want him OUT!


291 posted on 11/28/2009 5:59:11 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SoCalPol; Bob J
I went to the mall to help boost the economy and when I came back was excitedly looking forward to finding out the coveted answer to the oft asked question (of Palin bashers) ...."who will you vote for?"

Imagine my surprise when I discovered there was still no answer! Imagine that?!

***crickets****

292 posted on 11/28/2009 6:21:07 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Isn’t this typical.
The Palin bashers are ashamed and embarrassed as to who
they support knowing their candidate will not win out in
the primaries against Palin.


293 posted on 11/28/2009 6:37:12 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol; Bob J
Bob is probably a little worried that if they foist a RINO as the nominee, Palin fans will not support that person (ahem...Romney??).

So to compensate for this fear, he attacks Palin fans "slobbering" loyalty.

294 posted on 11/28/2009 6:43:47 PM PST by Moorings
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To: SoCalPol
Ummmmm, I'm not sure I can trust what you're saying....I hear you're a liar!

.

.

.

. Oh, and a baiter(?)! :)

295 posted on 11/28/2009 6:55:12 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: Moorings

Also called shooting oneself in the foot.

There is also the problem of those stuck back in the 19th Cen.
They don’t want a woman for President and know if stated this, they will be blasted for the next years to come
so using the Lib MSM mantras against Palin is the next best thing for this type.


296 posted on 11/28/2009 6:56:51 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Bob J
I don’t have a preferred candidate as of today. As far as I can tell, no one has announced they’re running yet.

Bulls--t Bob
You know that candidates aren't going to declare outright but are working behind the scenes preparing.
Pawlenty, Romney, Huckabee, and possible Daniels of Indiana all have their eye on the WH and are unofficially running.
So get your finger out of the wind and defend your pick instead of pissing on Palin supporters under the guise of "looking out" for us.

297 posted on 11/28/2009 6:59:06 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: CAluvdubya

LOL!!!!!!


298 posted on 11/28/2009 7:07:09 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Bob J

ANSWER: I wont vote for another Rino, period. So, it’s likely I’ll vote 3rd party if Sarah is the “one” ...


299 posted on 11/28/2009 7:08:30 PM PST by Scythian
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree, if they send up a Rino I’m going to pull the lever for the democratics, the hell with it, lets get on with the show if that’s what they want, bring it on !!


300 posted on 11/28/2009 7:11:06 PM PST by Scythian
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