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Three Myths about Trash (The Costs of mandatory recycling)
Mises Institute ^ | December 02, 2009 | Floy Lilley

Posted on 12/02/2009 8:26:31 PM PST by sickoflibs

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1 posted on 12/02/2009 8:26:31 PM PST by sickoflibs
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Well, if my Township-preferred provider of services would not charge me about $15/mo to recycle, I would be inclined to stop throwing away the small amount of recyclables in the trash (trash is about $7/mo).

Is all about economics and common sense, neither of which the gooberment understands.


2 posted on 12/02/2009 8:31:24 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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“Holding all of America’s garbage for the next one hundred years would require a space only 255 feet high or deep and 10 miles on a side”....

Can I be the first to suggest Washington, DC? We’ll still be able to see more than half the Washington Monument. Actually it will make a good measuring stick too.


3 posted on 12/02/2009 8:31:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Harrius Magnus; mojitojoe; Pelham; mom2twinsn2; LongLiveTheRepublic; ConservativeOrBust; ...
The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

One of my best friends here in MD sends his kids to private school, because public schools here indoctrinate kids in global warming, recycling and socialism(woship of government).

4 posted on 12/02/2009 8:35:39 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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we are not forced to recyle....we just do....

except for cans...which we dutifully take to someone that will pay us...

I feel better about doing something other than just throwing things in the garbage...

to recylce, we have to have several differant cans in the garage for glass,newspaper,tin cans etc...it can get messy...

then we have to load it all up and take it over to the recyling center..about 10 miles round trip.....

now we could just throw it in the garbage..we'd need to have more garbage cans....

its 6 of 1, half dozen of the other....

5 posted on 12/02/2009 8:37:44 PM PST by cherry
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I set my garbage out at the curb every Wednesday morning and it gets picked up, they don’t care what’s in it except, no leaves and no tires. What they do with it, I don’t care. My little village allows leaf burning and when I buy new tires the store charges me a couple dollars to dispose of the old ones

$50 every three months for garbage pick up.


6 posted on 12/02/2009 8:38:01 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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7 posted on 12/02/2009 8:40:29 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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On #s 2&3...

Puting Cans {presorted} at the curb INVITES theft. Folks TOO LAZY to dumpster dive, or walk the roadsides WILL often arrive B4 the recycle truck. They grab the aluminium and anything that would have required a deposit in an adjoining State.

Law Enforcement can’t stop it, nor does it try to.


8 posted on 12/02/2009 8:40:46 PM PST by PizzaDriver ( on)
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To: elpinta
Is all about economics and common sense. . .

Yup. The moment recycling becomes economically viable, it doesn't need a government mandate.

If it is cheaper to actually recycle sorted trash than to dump it in the nearest available landfill, one just needs to give a discount to folks who sort for recycling. Out here in Kansas that's only true for the sort of recyclables that you can get paid for, so the market sorts it out. Maybe in SF, LA, or NYC, even subsidizing folks to use the trash as feedstock might be cheaper than putting it in a landfill. If so, by all means provide trash sorters a discount and issue them extra bins.

9 posted on 12/02/2009 8:40:49 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: sickoflibs

All the people in the world (6 billion or so) could be put in Texas. The density (~25K/square mile) would be about 1/3 of the density of New York City (~75K/square mile).


10 posted on 12/02/2009 8:41:07 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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Here in Howard county MD the entire recycle process is free and voluntary, but we have near the highest taxes in the nation. 20K state income and property per person is typical. Not counting other fees like water,
11 posted on 12/02/2009 8:41:18 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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Did you ever notice that paper products labeled as "made from recycle material" is more expensive than "new" paper?

Paper mills using the whole tree tend to be energy self sufficient. Waste becomes fuel for the boilers which produce steam for the plant and for generation of electrical power.

A mill relying on recycle material must buy its energy like the rest of us.

12 posted on 12/02/2009 8:43:00 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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Yeah, ‘free’ is relative... to the taxes that producers pay.


13 posted on 12/02/2009 8:43:06 PM PST by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: Graybeard58

When I moved to Las Vegas the garbage guy told me they’d take anything I put out on the curb except dead bodies.


14 posted on 12/02/2009 8:43:25 PM PST by Royal Wulff
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To: PizzaDriver

I’m a firm believer in Lockean property theory: things discarded in the trash cannot be stolen because they have been returned to common. I think you have scavengers, not thieves, so why should the LEOs waste their time?


15 posted on 12/02/2009 8:44:40 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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This would be a problem if people were paid for their curbside recycled material. Otherwise I could not care less if someone steals the items I put out for recycling.


16 posted on 12/02/2009 8:49:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: The_Reader_David

That stuff WAS placed in a container OWNED by our city Government, thus it is Government property,

I see this as the equal of theft or embezzlement of City Funds.


17 posted on 12/02/2009 8:50:41 PM PST by PizzaDriver ( on)
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To: sickoflibs

Bump.


18 posted on 12/02/2009 8:55:32 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: sickoflibs; dennisw

The high priests of Gaia collect offerings of trash, because Gaia demands garbage sacrifices from her worshipers. What a dead-end cult. Well, at least in some places curbside services are offered.


19 posted on 12/02/2009 9:00:22 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: cherry

Recycling is Garbage

20 posted on 12/02/2009 9:04:06 PM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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