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Natural Variability Led to Extra-Cold 2008, Research Finds (paging Al Gore)
ScienceDaily ^ | Dec. 31, 2009 | staff

Posted on 12/31/2009 4:45:43 AM PST by saganite

An especially cold year in North America in 2008 led some members of the public and the media to question the scientific consensus on human-induced global warming. In addition, the cool global temperatures during the past decade may appear to contrast with the warming expected due to human influence.

To clarify the roles of human influence and natural climate variability, Perlwitz et al. used observed temperature data and a suite of climate model simulations to analyze factors contributing to the 2008 North American temperature conditions.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; weather
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1 posted on 12/31/2009 4:45:43 AM PST by saganite
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Translation: We’ll take the raw data, throw it out, and give you data that shows warming. And we’ll do it with FEELING. And we’ll do it with CONSENSUS!


2 posted on 12/31/2009 4:47:23 AM PST by samtheman
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To: saganite; FreedomPoster; carolinablonde; proud_yank; bamahead; Normandy; SteamShovel; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/31/2009 4:47:40 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Freedom from fat cat greedy Big Government tyranny IS a Right ... It IS the Constitution.)
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To: saganite
In addition, the cool global temperatures during the past decade

But AP told us months ago this didn't happen.

4 posted on 12/31/2009 4:48:59 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: saganite

Consensus is why Pluto is no longer a planet. It doesn’t mean that the reality of Pluto has changed, only that they say it has.


5 posted on 12/31/2009 4:51:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: saganite

More idiocy from the idiots and more lunacy from the lunatics.

Just another day in “science.” Proving once again that no human endeavor is free from human corruption.


6 posted on 12/31/2009 4:52:02 AM PST by Juan Medén
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Backtracking at the speed of heat! Well, not really. There’s less of that these days. We’re getting a taste of real winter here this weekend.


7 posted on 12/31/2009 4:52:15 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2296865/posts

That Bastardi could be on to something.


8 posted on 12/31/2009 4:55:02 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: samtheman
That's exactly how it works....you take out the "bad" lowest to get the average.

Man is arragant. He can't predict climate. He can't even get the 24 hour weather right half the time.

9 posted on 12/31/2009 4:56:01 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: saganite

The way these guys perform science is similar to how people find the face of Elvis on a piece of burnt toast.


10 posted on 12/31/2009 4:56:11 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: gusopol3

The Farmer’s Almanac also predicted a colder than normal winter everywhere but the SouthEast (normal there) in the US. In fact, it predicted bitter cold. Haven’t seen that yet but we’re just getting started.


11 posted on 12/31/2009 4:58:04 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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As shown in Caught Green-Handed by Lord Monckton, folks like the IPCC, Algore, and the railroad engineer carbon scammer Pachauri misused statistics to claim an ever increasing warming over the past 150 years. In reality since 1850 there were three periods of warming with identical slopes, all were 20-30 years in length, all were separated by periods of cooling ranging between 15-25 years in length.
12 posted on 12/31/2009 5:01:36 AM PST by aruanan
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To: saganite

The article itself says only they reached a conclusion without any of their reasons. If they felt the article was important enough to print they could have found room for a few more paragraphs


13 posted on 12/31/2009 5:03:17 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Juan Medén

This story accentuates the continuing surrender of science to political influence. You notice the whole article is based on “a suite of climate models”. It does not take a scientific background to understand that using computer modeling to explain climate change that global warming computer modeling could not predict is a joke.

Real Scientists need to speak out to protect their profession before all science is questioned with mistrust. As for Science Magazine?


14 posted on 12/31/2009 5:09:01 AM PST by paguch
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To: Sacajaweau
That's exactly how it works....you take out the "bad" lowest to get the average.

The sad part is that so many people can't seem to grasp what's wrong with data gathered that way. They seem to think that science is supposed to give nice neat predetermined outcomes.
15 posted on 12/31/2009 5:09:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: saganite

There is a link on the same page you link
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2008 Likely To Be One Of The Top-Ten Warmest Years

ScienceDaily (Jan. 8, 2008) — 2008 is set to be cooler globally than recent years say Met Office and University of East Anglia climate scientists, but is still forecast to be one of the top-ten warmest years.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080104091616.htm


16 posted on 12/31/2009 5:09:37 AM PST by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: wiggen

Science daily usually links to the original source for their info. If you’re interested in more detail you could go to the source material.


17 posted on 12/31/2009 5:12:05 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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Here’s what the “climate model simulations” say: If the temperature goes up, it’s man-made global warming. If the temperature goes down, it’s natural variability.

It’s so easy, even a fifth grader can do it.


18 posted on 12/31/2009 5:12:18 AM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: paguch

Well said. I fully agree. The entire scientific enterprise is in danger of being discredited and becoming propagandistic. We are well on our way back to Nazi science, where science serves the interests of the Reich.


19 posted on 12/31/2009 5:14:40 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: Rocky

They did say the natural variability was masking the GW and it would have been worse if not for that. ;^)


20 posted on 12/31/2009 5:15:22 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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