Posted on 01/05/2010 11:38:50 AM PST by circumbendibus
Is Glenn Beck right about Obama's eligibility not being a valid issue?
Yes, Beck is finally right about something
Yes, Beck is driving mainstream credibility
Yes, the birthers are obviously unhinged and off base
Yes, and he's right that this issue is providing cover to the Obama administration
Yes, Beck is always right
Yes
I don't know, but his opinion has given me reason to reconsider my views
No, I love Beck and usually agree with him, but he's just plain wrong on this one
No, that's what living and working in New York will do to you
No, but because Obama has been so good for Beck's career, the host doesn't wish to see his meal ticket disqualified
No, and deep down I think Beck himself knows the truth
No, Beck is just fishing for mainstream credibility
No, I agree with Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage and Dobbs that it's unquestionably a legitimate issue
No
Other
(Excerpt) Read more at forums.wnd.com ...
I still haven’t figured out how someone who wasn’t born in this country wound up with a birth notice in a Hawaiian newspaper in 1961, making this the most prescient group of conspirators in history. (Yes, I know the arguments, it doesn’t say which hospital and it doesn’t include his name. Then again neither do the other announcements on the page.)
At some point, the birther movement starts to sound like those who continue to whine that the Supreme Court stole the election for Bush over Gore. Obama won’t release the original COLB for at least one of three reasons:
A. It doesn’t exist.
B. It has some other embarrassing information.
C. Not releasing it is a continued distraction that enables them to marginalize all of their opponents by painting them with the ‘birther’ brush.
My guess is that ‘C’ is the most likely answer.
There are far more important and troubling issues related to the real damage that Obama is doing to the republic and that is where Beck’s attention is rightly focused. Even if it were shown that he was born in Moscow, a spawn of Satan via a descendant of Joseph Stalin, such a revelation would not be a silver bullet (it’s a metaphor, please) that would end his presidency.
However, continuing to sound the alarm regarding the philosophical mindset and likely nefarious intent of those he has surrounded himself with is far more important than engaging in some sideshow controversy that serves only to provide joke fodder for Obama, Axelrod, Plouffe, Gibbs, Jarrett, et all as they sit around the Oval Office and enjoy a beer at the end of the day.
Obama could stop the controversy for about 20 dollars in fees to the State of Hawaii that would authorize them to release the original certificate on file. He has not done this as it is advantageous to him for one of the following reasons.
1. He is not legally qualified for the office of President
and must hide this fact to continue in office.
2. He is legally qualified and gains political capitol as
we make fools of ourselves trying to prove he is not
legally qualified for the office of president.
Either 1 or 2 is the answer and it is President Obama that has created this controversy.
It really is that simple!
YOU are correct! It IS as simple as that!
He did, and that doesn't even register with you folks, let alone stop the controversy. Here's actual reality from the state of Hawaii:
[[No, you can't obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.
And, it's only available in electronic form.
Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.
“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.
Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.
“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.
Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”
“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.
Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”
She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”
The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.
Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”]]
He did what you asked. He got the only actual documentation Hawaii issues. You don't care. Why should he waste another moment's consideration on you?
Beck can see that. Obviously, I think Beck is correct.
Agreed. If we don't have the Constitution in common we have nothing.
Yeppers. Same here...
EGGSactly Batman!
Now the next question: If there is credible evidence that Obama does not meet the requirements to be POTUS then how does the Constitution remedy the situation?
The BC issue would have gone away if everything else was out in the open. Obama’s entire life has been wiped clean, and I for one want to know the hell WHY?
Won’t provide my email, so can’t vote there. I’d vote (these three!):
No, I love Beck and usually agree with him, but he’s just plain wrong on this one
No, and deep down I think Beck himself knows the truth
No, I agree with Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage and Dobbs that it’s unquestionably a legitimate issue
I have a good idea why, and it ain’t pretty
And Obama wants us talking about his birth certificate, otherwise he wouldn't hide it.
So I like the Limbaugh method of ignore it, except for the occasional joke.
I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY NO ONE WANTS TO GET TO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS...
However...why isn't Glenn Beck investigating the death of that witness? Why can't the media explore and implore the police to solve this murder? How is it possible that the “manager” of this murdered person just happens to find himself in the role of adviser to the POTUS on security issues?
What could be so damning that a possible cover-up included a professional hit? Isn't that newsworthy? Where are the Bernstein's and Woodward's of our time? What about Brietbart, why isn't he looking into this? Is Obama skirting his “civilian” police force statements by enabling INTERPOL the ability to enforce his unconstitutional decisions and commitments to new global order?
Why isn't anyone investigation the real nefarious agenda's of the green movement? GREEN=RED?
Still tying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes I see. Obama's supposed COLB was issued in 2007 when long form certificates were available and required for Homelands documentation. When did they change that and why? Did you know one can still get a copy of their long form certificate by request?
yep! It is plain. He is NOT president.
You have to be logged in to vote. WND sucks.
No, he is the POTUS. The election was held and the Electoral College voted and Congress Certified it. But again what is the remedy in the Constitution to remove him from office if he does not meet the requirements?
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