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National Security Adviser Says Airline Bomber Report Will 'Shock' Americans (Ineptitude Alert!)
Foxnews ^ | 1/7/2010 | Staff

Posted on 01/07/2010 3:47:01 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Americans will feel "a certain shock" when a report is released today detailing the intelligence failures that could have prevented the alleged Christmas Day airline bomber from ever boarding the plane.

In an interview published Thursday in USA Today, White House national security adviser James Jones said President Obama "is legitimately and correctly alarmed that things that were available, bits of information that were available, patterns of behavior that were available, were not acted on."

"That's two strikes," he was quoted as saying, referring to the failed Northwest jet attack and the shooting massacre at Fort Hood, Texas, in November. The Army base attack left 13 dead after officials failed to act on intelligence identifying suspected gunman Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a threat to fellow soldiers.

Jones, a retired four-star Marine general, told the paper that Obama "certainly doesn't want that third strike, and neither does anybody else."

Elaborating, Jones said, "The man on the street ... will be surprised that these correlations weren't made" between clues pointing toward a threat from Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. Even though the 23-year-old Nigerian man was in a database of possible terrorists, he managed to fly from Nigeria through Amsterdam to Detroit with an explosive concealed on his body.

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To: Jim Noble

Add my disabled son to your list of the thousands.

The only result of continuing to subject every passenger to this charade will be the demise of air travel and tourism in this and most other countries.

The solution is to let airlines handle security and let the public select with who they fly based on the safety record.

Personally I would fly with the airline that came up with a reasonable profile of a terrorist and applied appropriate security to this type.


41 posted on 01/07/2010 7:12:56 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer and teacher)
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To: worst-case scenario

Most of your post is supportive of the current situation which we all can see will fail over and over again.

The question of who pays for a failure is a good one. But you imply that bankruptcy and reorganization are not any big deal for a company. You are wrong there, as entire careers go down the drain when this happens and decent management will regard this as something to be avoided. Admittedly the new management of the reorganized company will be delighted with their chance at the helm, but the old management will be in the gutter.

Now, when there is a failure of the government system, does anyone care? (Sure they will say they care, but is there any penalty to make them sorry for their errors in judgement? Not likely. We will see in this case.)

The bottom line is that the public will decide who to support and who to savage in this. The airline that boasts the best security will carry the most passengers and the airline that promotes the poorest security will go out of business taking their bad management with them.

Your comment about flying with “no onerous searches” was valid, but the airlines would actually compete by claiming how good and selective their security was, IF Political Correctness directives were abolished.


42 posted on 01/07/2010 7:25:04 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer and teacher)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Jones said President Obama "is legitimately and correctly alarmed...

I hear a bus engine cranking up.

43 posted on 01/07/2010 7:29:07 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Jim Noble

I agree with you 100%


44 posted on 01/07/2010 7:32:01 AM PST by New Perspective (My 6 yr old son has Down Syndrome, are you going to kill him too Obama?)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Add my disabled son to your list of the thousands.

I concur. TSA made my wife send my 6 year old through the scanner first, he ran and they would not let my wife go get him as he ran away in the terminal. She insisted that she go first but the lackies would have none of it. After the event they told us that we might not make the flight due to the "incident" and we would have to fill out some paperwork.

Disgusting group of people. Not all of them are bad but too many to count.

45 posted on 01/07/2010 7:40:18 AM PST by New Perspective (My 6 yr old son has Down Syndrome, are you going to kill him too Obama?)
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To: SueRae
I’m more worried about targets other than airplanes....trains, buses, waterways. We always seem to narrow our focus on the most recent attack and method after the fact, ignoring others. The airport waiting lines would provide a much bigger target than a single jet. I have very little confidence right now...stay vigilant

Worth repeating.

I was discussing this with my wife, next it will homicide bombers in the security inspection areas.

A Universal time coordinated set of bombings at airport security, malls,churches, it could happen easily.

46 posted on 01/07/2010 7:52:35 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Your spelling of “Sarquasm” is correct, because , after all, you’re quoting Janet Napolitano (”Sarsquatch”)


47 posted on 01/07/2010 7:56:44 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: supremedoctrine

Thank you kindly....That is Fantastic!
Napolitano will cost Americans thousands of Lives because the Terrorists know she is a total Idiot, or a better description by far, a SARSQUATCH!!


48 posted on 01/07/2010 8:00:36 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: gwilhelm56

“Pay for that STUPIDITY!”

With OBAMA HUSSEIN, it goes far past Stupidity! Obama wants America to be Defeated, Humiliated, Conquered and Embaresssed by His Fellow Third World Muslims and Terrorists!!!..........:-(


49 posted on 01/07/2010 8:06:23 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: gwilhelm56

I am more shocked at obama’s apparent refusal to work while he is off the clock than anything else. Union rules I guess.

I should not be shocked as it is a pattern,

But damn, one would think
—a terrorist attack over Detroit AND
—the murder of 7 CIA agents by al Queda AND
—Obama’s stooge proclaiming ‘The system worked’

might, just might have given him reason to ask Michelle “Think I need to get back to DC?”


50 posted on 01/07/2010 8:09:48 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Jim Noble

AMEN!! and its the freaking Demorats who “DONT ALLOW PROFILING!” because it is “Unfair to the MUSLIM TERRORISTS” who are Killing Us in the most Brutal and Horrific Methods!!
and the Demorats are Thrilled with Our Grandfathers and Grandmothers being Body Searched because they Hate Respected Americans!
Its a National Disgrace and Our Enemies and Allies like China believe We are “NUTS!”


51 posted on 01/07/2010 8:12:16 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Jet Jaguar
"Shocked"? Is anyone surprised that National Security has completely unraveled under the Obama administration?


52 posted on 01/07/2010 8:13:52 AM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: Red in Blue PA

The terrorist on the plane attempted to kill everyone on that plane. Use lethal force to subdue a terrorist caught in the act of detonating an explosive on a plane.

You lose information he may provide but without interrogation and just criminal prosecution, the only information comes in the form of a plea bargain which will see him walk one day (and possibly kill again). Besides, to hear the Left tell it. We cannot trust the information that comes from such people. See the Crucible and the claims of “witchhunts”.


53 posted on 01/07/2010 9:06:27 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: SueRae

There have been persons captured while scoping out refineries (at least one shot a guard).

Just because we don’t hear about other targets or situations of terrorist activity, doesn’t mean they haven’t happened.

It is difficult to tell 300 passengers “nothing to see here, move along”.


54 posted on 01/07/2010 9:08:58 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I’m wondering if this problem might go back to the pre-Bush years when the characters in the clinton admin did so much to prevent the sharing of intelligence between the FBI and the CIA.


55 posted on 01/07/2010 9:29:48 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: Kakaze

Simultaneous arsons are on my watchlist, too.


56 posted on 01/07/2010 10:07:20 AM PST by SueRae
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To: Always Independent
Many of our National Security issues (aka Islamic Terrorists) are pre-Bush. I posted this on another thread a few evenings ago.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/03/sotu.04.html

BORGER: How does this affect both morale and strategy as the agency expands its role?

SCHEUER: Well, I think it hurts morale to a certain extent, naturally, because of the deaths, but it hurts morale even more because one of the officers who got killed had arranged an operation in 1998 that would have killed or captured Osama bin Laden. And Mr. Brennan was instrumental in preventing that operation from occurring. Instead he said the Americans should trust the Saudis to take care of bin Laden.

So it’s a painful— it’s a painful death, but more importantly it’s a death that didn’t need to occur had Mr. Clinton — Mr. Brennan, George Tenet, and Mr. Berger had the courage to try to defend Americans.

BORGER: Now I wish all of those gentlemen were here today to defend themselves.

SCHEUER: I wish they were too. And I would be delighted anytime to talk with them in public on any — in any forum, ma’am.

BORGER: Well, hopefully we can arrange that one day. Because I’m sure they’ll want to answer your charge.

SCHEUER: I would be delighted. I’m sure they would.

BORGER: But thank you very much for being with us here today, Mr. Scheuer.

SCHEUER: My pleasure, ma’am.


I don't know much about Scheuer except he has been critical of Bush and Obama and gets criticism from the right and the left. A sampling:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/24/AR2009042403459.html

http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/blogs/archive/2010/01/06/c-span-features-israel-hating-terrorist-apologist-michael-scheuer.aspx

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/10/12/go_big_or_go_home

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/does-michael-scheuer-represent-the-cia/

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3466

57 posted on 01/07/2010 10:10:45 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Red in Blue PA
"Americans will feel "a certain shock" when a report is released today detailing the intelligence failures that could have prevented the alleged Christmas Day airline bomber from ever boarding the plane.

Only the ones who have zero common sense and haven't been paying attention for the last 20 years.

58 posted on 01/07/2010 10:16:48 AM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: Red in Blue PA

Also, there are accomplices to these terrorists-— the reason they cover it up is so they can claim “lone gunman” and hide a conspiratorial effort, ie terrorism


59 posted on 01/07/2010 10:45:15 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Personally I would fly with the airline that came up with a reasonable profile of a terrorist and applied appropriate security to this type.

www.elal.co.il

60 posted on 01/07/2010 10:57:22 AM PST by Heatseeker (Elizabeth Cheney for President)
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