Skip to comments.Pastor James Manning accuses Columbia University of treason. Obama never went to the school.
Posted on 01/11/2010 5:35:53 PM PST by Mozilla
Pastor James David Manning, one of President Obamas most vocal and outspoken critics, has just released a video yesterday in which he is charging Columbia University with treason and is taking them to court. Pastor Manning alleges that Obama never went to the school and that he actually bought the degree. Pastor Manning states that Obama was instead in Afghanistan during the period of time from 1981 to 1983, working for Al Qaeda, when Obama was supposedly attending Columbia.
Most of what we know about Barack Obama comes from Chicago corruption trial transcripts, Illinois records such as the IL bar, internet data that has not yet been scrubbed and his autobiography, Dream of My Father. But, Obama has kept hidden most of the records of his life. As noted by websites like World Net Daily, other documentation not yet available includes Obama's kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, his adoption records and ,of course, his Birth Certificate.
Obama certainly has some connection to Columbia University. Obama was given a diploma and grades from Columbia sufficient to allow him to enter Harvard. However, since Obama has employed many private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records, we have no proof of his grades or even his attendance and graduation. In Fact, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students, back in 2008, from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.
Wayne Allyn Root,a former presidential candidate, was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, I dont know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I dont have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia . Ever! Nobody recalls him. Im not exaggerating, Im not kidding.
Obamas photograph does not appear in the schools yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia.
So then, What do we know of Obama being enrolled in, graduating from or otherwise being associated with Columbia University? Hardly nothing!
Pastor Dr. James Manning of Atlah Ministries in Harlem, New York City further states that Columbia University is helping to cover-up the lies for Obama and thus he has sued them and taken them to court.
Pastor James Manning: Columbia University treason
Proof of that would hurt his poll numbers.
This Manning character is something else.
Go git’um Rev. Manning.
According to Bill Klintoon, Zero was only there to serve coffee.
How was Obama being trained by Al Queda before the terrorist group was even formed?
You’ll have to ask The Pastor. I have no idea about what his proof is that Obama was in Al Qaeda or let alone another country or Afghanistan. But that is what he alleges. I am aware that the group was founded in 1988.
“Something else” is right...he has gone from provocative and entertaining to crazy.
My immediate impression is that Reverand Manning isn’t part of the reality-based community. ANY reality-based community.
We know he was at Columbia, because he wrote this dreck for The Sundial:
DISCLAIMER:He might have mailed it in...:)
But the editorial is real.
BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY
By Barack Obama
March 10, 1983
Most students at Columbia do not have firsthand knowledge of war. Military violence has been a vicarious experience, channeled into our minds to television, film, and print.
The more sensitive among us struggle to extrapolate experiences of war from our everyday experience, discussing the latest mortality statistics from Guatemala, sensitizing ourselves to our parents war time memories, or incorporating into our framework of reality as depicted by a Mailer or a Coppola. But the taste of war-the sounds and chill, the dead bodies-are remote and far removed. We know that wars have occurred, will occur, are occurring, but bringing such experience down into our hearts, and taking continual, tangible steps to prevent war, becomes a difficult task. Two groups on campus, Arms Race Alternatives (ARA) and Students Against Militarism (SAM) work within these mental limits to foster awareness and practical action necessary to counter the growing threat of war. Through the emphasis of the two groups differ, they share an aversion to current government policy. These groups, visualizing the possibilities of destruction and grasping the tendencies of distorted national priorities, are throwing their weight into shifting America off the dead-end track.
“Most people my age remember well the air raid drills in school, under the desk with our heads tucked between our legs. Older people, they remember the Cuban missile crisis. I think those kinds of things left an indelible mark on our souls, so we are more apt to be concerned” says Don Kent, assistant director of programs and student activities at Earl Hall center. Along with the community Volunteer Service Center, ARA has been Don’s primary concern, coordinating various working groups of faculty, students, and staff members, while simultaneously seeking the ever elusive funding for programs.
“When I first came here two years ago, Earl Hall had been a holding tank for five years. Paul Martin (director of Earl Hall) and I discussed our interests, and decided that ARA would be one of the programs we pushed.” Initially, most of the work was done by non-student volunteers and staff. “Hot issues, particularly El Salvador, were occupying students at the time. Consequently, we cosponsored a lot of activities with community organizations like SANE (Students Against Nuclear Energy).”
With the flowering of the nuclear freeze movement, and particularly the June 12 rally in Central Park, however, student participation has expanded. One wonders whether this upsurge stems from young people’s penchant for the latest ‘happenings’ or from growing awareness of the consequences of nuclear holocaust. ARA Maintains a mailing list of 500 persons and Don Kent estimates that approximately half of the active members are students. Although he feels the continuity is provided by the faculty and staff members, student attendance at ARA sponsored events-in particular in November 11 convocation on the nuclear threat-reveals a deep reservoir of concern. “I think students on this campus like to think of themselves as sophisticated, and don’t appreciate small vision. So they tend to come out more for the events; they do not want to just fold leaflets.”
Mark Bigelow, a graduate intern from Union theological seminary who works with Don to keep ARA running smoothly, agrees. “It seems the students here are fairly aware of the nuclear problem, and it makes for an underlying frustration. We try to talk to that frustration.” Consequently, the thrust of ARA is towards generating dialogue which will give people a rational handle on this controversial subject. This includes bringing speakers like Daniel Ellsberg to campus, publishing fact sheets compiled by interested faculty, and investigating the possible development of an interdisciplinary program in the Columbia curriculum dealing with peace, disarmament, and world order.
Tied in with such a thrust is the absence of what Don calls “a party line.” By taking an almost apolitical approach to the problem, ARA hopes to get the university to take nuclear arms issues seriously. “People don’t like having their intelligence insulted,” says Don, “so we try to disseminate information and allow the individual to make his or her own decision.”
Generally, the narrow focus of the freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets. When Peter Tosh sings that “everybody’s asking for peace, but nobody’s asking for justice,” one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself. Mark Bigelow does not think so. “We do focus primarily on catastrophic weapons. Look, we say, here’s the worst part let’s work on that. You’re not going to get rid of the military in the near future, so lets at least work on this.”
Mark Bigelow does feel that the links are there, and points to fruitful work being done by other organizations involved with disarmament. “The freeze is one part of a whole disarmament movement. The lowest common denominator, so to speak. For instance, April 10-16 is Jobs for Peace week, With a bunch of things going on around the city. Also, the New York City Council may pass a resolution April calling for greater social as opposed to military spending. Things like this may dispel the idea that disarmament is a white issue, because how the government spends its revenue affects everyone.”
The very real advantages of concentrating on a single issue is leading the national freeze movement to challenge individual missile systems, while continuing the broader campaign. This year, Mark Bigelow sees the checking of Pershing II and Cruise missile deployment as crucial. “Because of their small size and mobility, their deployment will make possible arms control verification far more difficult, and will cut down warning time for the Soviets to less than 10 minutes. That can only be a destabilizing factor.” Additionally, he sees the initiation by the US of the Test Ban Treaty as a powerful first step towards a nuclear free world.
ARA encourages members to join buses to Washington and participate in a March 7-8 rally intended to push through the Freeze resolution which is making its second trip through the house. ARA will also ask United Campuses to Prevent Nuclear War (UCAM), an information lobbying network-based and universities, nationwide, to serve as its advisory board in the near future. Because of its autonomy from Columbia (which does not fund political organizations) UCAM could conceivably become a more active arm of disarmament campaigns on campus, though the ARA will continue to function solely as a vehicle for information and discussion.
Also operating out of Earl Hall Center, Students Against Militarism was formed in response to the passage of registration laws in 1980. An entirely student run organization, SAM casts a wider net than ARA, although for the purposes of effectiveness, they have tried to lock in on one issue at a time.
“At the heart of our organization is an anti-war focus”, says junior Robert Kahn, one of SAM’s fifteen or so active members. “From there, a lot of issues shoot forth-nukes, racism, the draft, and South Africa. We’ve been better organized when taking one issue at a time, but we are always cognizant of other things going on and collaborate frequently with other campus organizations like CISPES and REELPOLITIK.”
At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration, the law requires that all male students applying for federal financial aid submit proof of registration, or else the government coffers will close. Yale, Wesleyan, and Swarthmore have refused to comply, and plan to offer non-registrants other forms of financial aid. SAM hopes to press Columbia into following suit, though so far President Sovern and company seem prepared to acquiesce to the bill.
Robert believes students tacitly support non-registrants, though the majority did not comply. “Several students have come up to our tables and said that had they known of the ineffectiveness of prosecution, they would not have registered.” A measure of such underlying support is the 400 signatures on a petition protesting the Solomon Bill, which SAM collected the first four hours it appeared. Robert also points out that prior to registration, there were four separate bills circulating in the House proposing a return to the draft, but none ever got out of committees, and there have not been renewed efforts. An estimated half million non-registrants can definitely be a powerful signal.
Prodding students into participating beyond name signing and attending events is tricky, but SAM members seem undaunted. “A lot of the problem comes not from people’s ignorance of the facts, but because the news and statistics are lifeless. That’s why we search for campus issues like the Solomon Bill that have a direct impact on the student body, and effectively link the campus to broader issues.” By organizing and educating the Columbia community, such activities lay the foundation for future mobilization against the relentless, often silent spread of militarism in the country. “The time is right to tie together social and military issues,” Robert continues, “and the more strident the Administration becomes, the more aware people are of their real interests.
The belief that moribund institutions, rather than individuals are at the root of the problem, keep SAM’s energies alive. “A prerequisite for members of an organization like ours is the faith that people are fundamentally good, but you need to show them. and when you look at the work people are doing across the country, it makes you optimistic.”
Perhaps the essential goodness of humanity is an arguable proposition, but by observing the SAM meeting last Thursday night, with its solid turnout and enthusiasm, one might be persuaded that manifestations of our better instincts can at least match the bad ones. Regarding Columbia’s possible compliance, one comment in particular hit upon an important point with the Solomon Bill, “The thing that we need to do is expose how Columbia is talking out of two sides of its mouth.”
Indeed, the most pervasive malady of the collegiate system specifically, and the American experience generally, is that elaborate patterns of knowledge and theory have been disembodied from individual choices and government policy. What the members of ARA and SAM try to do is infuse what they have learned about the current situation, bring the words of that formidable roster on the face of Butler Library, names like Thoreau, Jefferson, and Whitman, to bear on the twisted logic of which we are today a part. By adding their energy and effort in order to enhance the possibility of a decent world, they may help deprive us of a spectacular experience-that of war. But then, there are some things we shouldn’t have to live through in order to want to avoid the experience.
“Barack Obama was programmed for years by his atheist, Muslim father, by the communist sex pervert Frank Marshall Davis, by con man Tony Rezko, by domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and others most of all by black liberation theology screamer Jeremiah Wright. Obama’s resume is largely manufactured. There is a total blackout on his college years. His campaign obscures what he did as a “community organizer.” All his radical associations are denied or minimized. His miserable legislative record, voting “present” over 100 times to avoid taking a stand), his lack of achievement” He is truly the Manchurian candidate.
This seems to be a detailed description of Obama’s years at Columbia, written by Phil Boerner who says he was Obama’s roommate there.
“How was Obama being trained by Al Queda before the terrorist group was even formed?”
His quote was that he was in an AFGHANISTAN training camp, not Al Queda. And there were training camps there at that point. He does not mention Al Q. Not saying Rev. is right or wrong, but this is an incorrect quote you got a hold of.
Go Rev Manning!!!!
For all we know he could be right...thing is:
At least he is doing something!!!
A true patriot.
It's the seriousness of the charge, not the nature of the evidence.
We don't need no stinkin evidence!
From my understanding, after listening to the second video link I posted, Dr. Manning might be trying to say that Obama went to Afghistan and joined a radical group for training, but in the second video link I posted, Manning clearly says Obama went to Al Qaeda. However, you are right, that Al Qeada was not formed until after Obama would have been in Columbia.
Are you folks sure this isn't Cedric...
This is one I'd like to stay a distance from, so when it blows sky high,
I don't get any duck juice on me. ;-)
And I was havin' so much fun until I found that Al Qaeda
didn't come into existence until 1988.
So when did Columbia U come into existence? Just checkin'. Heh heh heh...
Barry doesn’t strike me as a particularly physical fellow and is probably given to flinching when watching violent sports on TV.
Is Columbia allowed to release the college records?
Can I get a witness?
Heavy duty accusation.
While I am not so certain about Obama's islam-based adventures in Afghanistan, I believe he was in Pakistan as has been discussed in the past.
Also, I believe Manning is right on about Columbia hiding all of Obama's "so-called" records.
Not a SOUL has come forward to acknowledge Obama's time at Columbia.
As a FRiend mentioned previously, Obama would have stood out like a sore thumb if he was at Columbia during the years he claims.
Black Americans seldom were students at schools like Columbia back then.
Obama's presence on Columbia's campus at that particular time would have stood out like an astronaut in full gear at a dinner party.
This article among other things says “Obama’s professors and classmates, including former international politics professor Michael Baron and current MTV president Michael Wolf, confirm that he was a brilliant, standout student and that he was an active participant in seminars. Baron said he was one of the top one or two students in his class.”
I think the Prez was going by the Barry Soetoro handle back then. Except for the Afro, Barry’s face hasn’t changed much at all, so surely someone would recognize him. We also know from Barry’s own mouth that he travelled to Pakistan back when Americans weren’t allowed to go there in the 1980s, allegedly to visit his mother. At least one person has died trying to expose Barry’s passport details. Also, our Govt. was providing arms and training to Afghanistan to use against the USSR invaders in the 1980s (anyone seen “The Beast”?).
Now, we’ve been invaded from within and we won’t even admit it or believe it.
and I am laughing because it is probably funny.
We know he was at Columbia, because he wrote this dreck for The Sundial:
DISCLAIMER:He might have mailed it in...:)
But the editorial is real.
BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY
By Barack Obama
March 10, 1983
A. How do we know he wrote it at all?
B. If he DID write, would not the interviewees remember him?
C. If they do remember him, would they not say so?
Pastor James David Manning, one of President Obamas most vocal and outspoken critics, has just released a video yesterday in which he is charging Columbia University with treason and is taking them to court. Pastor Manning alleges that Obama never went to the school and that he actually bought the degree.
Pastor Manning states that Obama was instead in Afghanistan during the period of time from 1981 to 1983, working for Al Qaeda, when Obama was supposedly attending Columbia.
. . . . Check out the article.
0bama helped organize Al Qaeda.
Someone explained to me that there are the people who get admitted to columbia the normal way and that is very competitive, and there is a special admissions program for students who want a columbia degree, but are sort of commuter students...althogh they have the same degree, it is a different program.
Like the fact that Harvard Law is very competitive, but there is a part time program too,
Reverend Wright will find the truth about columbia, I betcha’
Coupled with the fact that all of his student records are hidden away from any public review, I am inclined to believe Obama defrauded his way through his entire "education."
“Obama was instead in Afghanistan during the period of time from 1981 to 1983, working for Al Qaeda, when Obama was supposedly attending Columbia.”
Hope he has proof, otherwise he is going to be pegged as a loony toon.
Well, obviously Rev. Manning is a big fat RACIST!
Christ, not this again. There was never any travel ban to Pakistan. Not in the 1980s. Not ever. There was a State Department advisory at that time. What the advisory said was that you could get a tourist visa when you got to the airport in Karachi, but that if you were going to cross the border from India you had to get one beforehand, because they didn't give them out at the crossing. That was the extent of the State Department's travel advisory. It's also worth noting that at the same time this alleged travel ban was in place, Ronald Reagan was sending billions in military and economic aid to the Pakistani goverment.
Just because he swallowed a Thesaurus doesn’t make him a good writer.
see post #18.
Some police officers in Dekalb, Georgia checked out Obama's online records and received a nasty little visit from the Schutzstaffel, err, Secret Service over it.
Makes me wonder what the SS did to the police officers' permanent records during their "investigation."
0bama helped organize the Al Qaeda community.
Gee, according to Obama's books, school was the time for loud music, cigarettes in the carpet and "drinking beer heavily." Perhaps even sniffing some "blow."
This Boerner drone talks about Obama as if he is Jesus reading the school books with great care.
What a load of BS.
Manning sounds nutty, but the article you linked to doesn’t disprove what he alleges.
Boerner says they only roomed together one semester. The one bylined article wasn’t published until 1983. The Wiki link you posted speaks of him as having “few friends.”
Obama’s whereabouts from 1981 to 1983 remain very much in question.
Well, two leftists saying stuff must mean it’s true!