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1 posted on 01/20/2010 11:01:28 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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Sometimes Beauty arises in unexpected places, under unexpected circumstances, at unexpected times -
but that’s why Beauty generates that “AWE” response!


2 posted on 01/20/2010 11:06:23 PM PST by J Edgar
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coalesce around those elements in the package that people agree on,

What people, and what elements? So the prez thinks Congress having wasted a year already, ought to get together “finally” and waste some more time? Beats going on to cap and tax, comprehensive immigration reform, and a thousand other inane expensive, ideas I guess.


3 posted on 01/20/2010 11:07:16 PM PST by wita
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"I would advise that we try to move quickly to coalesce around those elements in the package that people agree on," Obama said.
So now he says it...
But why then did 0bama waste a year, 25% of his term, and all of his political capital pushing a bill that no one agreed on?
 
6 posted on 01/20/2010 11:16:38 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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Democrats load up the bus back to Washington after Scott Brown's victory in Mass.


9 posted on 01/20/2010 11:22:54 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Marsha Coakley's been teabagged. In Nov. Democrat Teabaggees - you're next.)
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The Dems: One Big Frickin Fillet of FAIL. Just when you think they can’t eff it up any worse than they already have..they surprise you.


12 posted on 01/20/2010 11:29:37 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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All the options the Dems are considering are price controls. Price controls have never, ever, worked. They cause shortages. Prices are not costs. We need cost controls, through market incentives.

1. Equalize taxes for employer provided and non-employer provided insurance

2. Give everyone a medical savings account, with subsidies for the poor

3.Require health care providers to post price lists on the internet and on handouts to all patients.

4.Tort reform

5. Allow insurance companies to compete across state (and national) lines.

This is simple. Why the heck aren't Repub leaders shouting it from the rooftops? Even now they are letting Dems control the discussion.

16 posted on 01/20/2010 11:45:28 PM PST by SupplySider
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Rat fight! Rat fight!


17 posted on 01/20/2010 11:48:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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“The president said he would be open to scaling back health reform legislation in order to salvage it.”
Screw scaling it back or salvaging it. Dump it like the Clintons did back in the 90s. The majority of the American populace say no to health reform. But, of course, the Democrats and the RINOs know what's better for us.
Just imagine going to the DMV for health care. That's what it's like in Canada. If you want to give up almost three quarters of your payroll check to the government for health care, be my guest. But don't make me have to deal with all the bureaucratic bullshit to get an x-ray, see a doc, get treated for cancer. If you want socialized health care, move to Cuba.
23 posted on 01/20/2010 11:55:17 PM PST by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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It’s just so delicious.


32 posted on 01/21/2010 12:29:14 AM PST by beckysueb (Hey Obama, get out of Sarahs' house!)
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Obama said.......”that THE PEOPLE agree on.”

Since when was it about the people Bo?

Now the show will really begin..
He even had to steal this phrase....the People.. yea, right..


35 posted on 01/21/2010 12:48:44 AM PST by caww
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I posted these to you on another thread.

They just seem so appropriate here as well.

I advise the Liberals to build an altar to their gods (Michelle and Barack), and perhaps burn a sacrifice.


54 posted on 01/21/2010 3:31:01 AM PST by SkyPilot
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Obama just threw his party under the bus! He sawed off Queen Pelosi and Dingy Harry's branches off under him. He pulled the rug out from Obamacare and left the Democratic leadership twisting naked in the wind! Now Democrats have to ask themselves why they would put in all this work, all this pain only to have a President of their own party walk away from the central signature item on his agenda? The Rats will be too busy tearing each other apart to focus their fire on the GOP.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

56 posted on 01/21/2010 4:00:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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and the RATS, take another one in the..............................HA ha!!!

61 posted on 01/21/2010 4:51:45 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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"What happened, Daddy?"

"We just got our ass handed to us, Son."


62 posted on 01/21/2010 5:01:41 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Pants on the ground pants on the ground lookin like a fool wit yo pants on the ground)
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If this crown weren’ pigs....and had spent a year prior to midterms deregulating, detaxing the working economy, re-regulating and prosecuting the financial economy, they’d own the USA for a generation....and ‘Bammy would be measured for his Mt. Rushmore sittings....

As it is the clown will be lucky to finish out his term.


64 posted on 01/21/2010 5:08:54 AM PST by mo
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Tort reform or shut it down.


67 posted on 01/21/2010 5:13:40 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Jet Jaguar; maggief; Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker; GOPJ; hoosiermama; ...
Dems 'Hysterical' as Obama Retreats on Healthcare

HAPPINESS IS JUST A THING CALLED SCOTT BROWN WINNING IN MA Oh, what one little election in blue, blue, blue Massachusetts can do.....tra, la, la, la, la. ROTFL.

EMANUEL AND HIS BRO ARE IN CHARGE OF HEALTHCARE-MEDICARE TRILLIONS Ohaha's retreat on healthcare is proof-positive that healthcare is a con game----an extortion scheme to get trillions of dollars into the hands of Ohaha and his henchmen----Emnauel, Axelrod and the rest of the "progressive" crooks occupying our WH.

ITEM --- THE TRILLION DOLLAR GRAB OFF THE TOP Healthcare passed now would not kick in til 2013. So where's the crisis? Why such a long lead-time in phasing in the new regs? The reason is that the first phase is Ohaha's grab for our wallets----Americans will be forced to pony up billions before this atrocity even kicks in. Considering Ohaha's fascination with trillion$, that number could change.

ITEM Obama's healthcare gimmicks are legion:

(A) The first four years of ObamaCare is to amass $$billions. Period. Free govt healthcare does not kick in til 2013.

(B) Pushes much of the healthcare costs from the federal budget and onto the private sector by requiring individuals and employers to purchase health insurance....or pay a hefty fine or go to jail (only illegals are exempt from this provision).

(C) When the bills force somebody to pay $10,000 to the government, the Congressional Budget Office treats that as a tax.

(D) When the government hands that $10,000 to private insurers, the CBO counts that as government spending.

(E) But when the bills achieve the exact same outcome by forcing somebody to pay $10,000 directly to a private insurance company, it appears nowhere in the official CBO cost estimates — neither as federal revenues nor federal spending. That’s a sharp departure from how the CBO treated similar mandates in the Clinton health plan. And it hides maybe 60 percent of the legislation’s total costs.

ITEM--- ENRON REDUX The Obama Enron tricks have only one purpose: to accrue massive amounts of govt money into campaign accounts to elect/reelect Dems. That is the one and only reason to frantically push ObamaCare on a recalcitrant citizenry.

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ITEM -- Obama has accumulated huge slush funds:

(a) 80% of the trillion dollar stim is unspent and under his control, being hoarded for Dem campaigns.

(b) June 9, 2009 Obama announced, "Several financial institutions are set to pay back $68B to taxpayers." Taxpayers assumed that would be returned to the general funds from whence it had come .......in order to pay down the debt. The truth, however, is that the money returned is finding new life in the US Treasury, as part of what is essentially a Turbo Tim Geither-controlled slush fund.

ITEM --- OHAHA'S AMNESTY CON JOB: Obama keeps saying "ObamaCare is not going to insure illegal aliens.......except the bill does not have verification provisions to make sure illegals can't apply and get benefits." Obama surely knows the courts have ruled repeatedly that hospitals cannot turn illegals away from emergency rooms. And besides, Obama is conning Americans----he is planning to give illegals full amnesty by the time O/C kicks in.

70 posted on 01/21/2010 5:26:12 AM PST by Liz
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There is nothing about the Senate bill or the house bill that is redeemable. Both are predicated on “social control” , not “health care.”The bills are tyrannical,unecessarily exploitive and punitive. Why should Americans be punished, I ASK YOU? Eff you leftist bastards!!!

The Left’s health care bills are about acheiving access to the peronal wealth of a whole generation of Americans and ripping that wealth away from them during time of sickness.Its a demographic warfare bill.

As such it does not deserve to be saved, resurrected and , or amended. It needs a swift and uncompromising death. If it is passed it will mean civil war.

If the dems want to insure 30 million uninsured out of 300 million with 270 million already insured in the USA, let them do so. Just stay away from the IRS as a debt collector and keep your hands off my private health care, and leave my civil liberties alone, unless you want war.


86 posted on 01/21/2010 6:16:16 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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And this is all still among democrats? Still no republicans allowed in the deliberations?


94 posted on 01/21/2010 6:29:32 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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My idea of legislative bipartisanship is 533 staunch conservatives and two token liberals: one to shine their shoes, empty the trash and serve them coffee; and one to slap around for fun.


111 posted on 01/21/2010 7:04:12 AM PST by ScottinVA (Yo, Congress!!! CAN YOU HEAR US NOW???!?!!!)
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