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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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To: JustPiper

Good work as always. I’ll be doing the main ping on Hollister, but followup links will be here.

Pentagon on Lockdown After Officers Shot; Suspect in Custody...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/pentagon-shots-fired-police-officers-reported-injured/story?id=10014570

Three People Shot at Metro Station...
http://www.wusa9.com/news/breaking/story.aspx?storyid=98041&catid=158

DETAILS...
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1904181

highlander_UW in post 4 is doing some deep research on this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464617/posts?page=4#4
[Headline: Sources: Suspected Pentagon gunman was from Hollister]


901 posted on 03/05/2010 3:54:58 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. [Only leftist intellectuals publicly pick their noses.])
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To: backhoe; ETL

Major link lists compiled:

THUG-O-CRAT hit list [shocking links and headlines]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464640/posts?page=4

Obama-nomics & Greece [link-list]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464021/posts?page=4

Close Encounters with the Loony Left [link-list]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464035/posts?page=2

Recent updates next.


902 posted on 03/05/2010 3:58:33 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. [Only leftist intellectuals publicly pick their noses.])
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To: All

Ted Kennedy: “Shamefully, we now learn that Saddam’s torture chambers reopened under new management — U.S. management.”

U.S. czar in Cold War: Smack in the USSR
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126950
Obama chief part of group whose founders allegedly helped Soviets build atomic bomb

Bill Gates talks about ‘vaccines to reduce population’ [?]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464456/posts?page=24
[Grain of salt ...]

VIDEO: Scott Brown challenges Obama on reconciliation...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzUqVzlmHzk

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[Free Speech Trenches]
BIG SIS UNLEASHED: Homeland Security program digs ‘into all Internet communications’...
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/03/02/“einstein”-program-disclosed-as-us-cyber-shield/?blog_id=100&post_id=11601

Feds weigh expansion of monitoring...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10463665-38.html

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Big Brother:
UK: Spy chips hidden in 2.5 million trashbins; Pay-as-you-throw tax...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255565/Spy-chips-hidden-2-5-million-dustbins-council-snoopers-plan-pay-throw-tax.html

Obama-nomics:
Foot soldiers for census ease jobless rate...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0eecb496-27c5-11df-863d-00144feabdc0.html

FORTHCOMING ROVE MEMOIR ACCUSES GORE AIDE IN LEAK OF BUSH DUI...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33946.html

Toronto Muslim, student at York University, calls for genocide on website called “Filthy Jewish Terrorists”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/03/toronto-muslim-student-at-york-university-calls-for-genocide-on-website-called-filthy-jewish-terrori.html
“If there were any planned attacks against Canadian/American soldiers by ‘Muslim militants’ in Canadian soil, I’d support it.”

Howard Dean: Health bill hangs Dem incumbents and Obama out to dry in elections
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2464348/posts

Anatomy of a Rumor: The Story Behind Chief Justice John Roberts’s ‘Retirement’ (GT prof. prank)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464313/posts

neodad posted the key update in less than 3 minutes:
Thread posted at 9:47:52.
His post: 9:50:21.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464096/posts?page=9#9

The hoax was exposed with AMAZING speed! I LOVE rapid communication.

traderrob6: “The neglected fact here is the absolute HUGE and SERIOUS (spelled correctly) ramifications of this story had it been factual. There is no single retirement, bar Obama himself, that would have the national repercussions of this story had it been true. The soul of any great rumor is the magnitude of it’s import, in that respect this was a gem. Blame only those that perpetuated it and not those that were initially concerned.”

Chief justice publicly accepts WND’s eligibility petition (Obama)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2206868/posts
[That’s right. Justice Roberts took this seriously enough to read the petition and give it serious thought. His conclusion is not the point: those who think that certifigate is a joke — THEY are the joke.]

Climategate:
More than 50 ships stuck in Baltic Sea ice: maritime authorities
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464306/posts


AuntB:

Buried in McCain/Feingold was a special exemption for Indian tribes, who just happen to line McCain’s pockets.
Mc/Feingold was never about campaign finance reform. It was about getting what McCain thought he needed.

The McCain-Feingold Indian Giving Loophole
by Michelle Malkin (April 11, 2001)

[snip] deep-pocketed special interest group remains curiously silent amid the furor over campaign finance “reform”: Indian tribes. Why?

You might think tribal leaders would be swarming Capitol Hill, joining other business groups and trade associations that are rightly worried about the McCain-Feingold bill’s deleterious effect on their ability to participate in the political process. Under McCain-Feingold, so-called “soft money” donations (which are currently unregulated and unlimited) would be banned. That would presumably be a big blow to Indian tribes, particularly those who run casinos, whose soft-money giving has exploded in the last few years.

Final tallies are not in yet, but analysts say the top individual recipient of Indian gaming money during election 2000 was none other than anti-soft money crusader Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who sits on the Senate Committee of Indian Affairs.

ALSO see:

Indians, Lobbyists and Arizona Politics...OH MY!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2440173/posts


Liberalizing church: Presbyterian Church USA Releasing Report Denouncing Isreal as ‘Racist Nation’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464010/posts

McCain Asks: ‘Who Was the Old John McCain?’ (”I miss Ted Kennedy so much”) (BARF ALERT)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2463975/posts

Eric Massa to retire amid allegations he sexually harassed a male staffer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2463407/posts

The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates
http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/wm327.cfm

Weird news:
Local UFO Sightings on the Rise
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464042/posts?page=1


903 posted on 03/05/2010 4:03:47 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. [Only leftist intellectuals publicly pick their noses.])
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To: JustPiper
You need to put Ronny on the $20 Bill, not the 50, and here is why.

Andrew Jackson....democrat and president who ignored the Supreme Court and evicted the Cherokee people from their lands in the Carolinas (they lived in towns like European settlers and interacted with them...they attended Christian services and they ran their own plantations and unfortunately were even slave holders...)when the supreme court came down with their ruling Old Hickory said of chief justice Marshall....”John Marshall has made his decision. Let him enforce it.” ) he then marched the Cherokee from the Carolinas to Oklahoma killing 4000 in the process which was called the Trail of Tears....the indians hate Jackson and to this day, do not pay out at their casinoes with $20 bills....

the left hates him for his indifference to indigenous people....the Right hates him because he is another arrogant Democrat who skirts the constitution...

lets give Ronny the $20.00 bill and leave Republican war hero Grant alone with his cigars and whiskey on the $50

904 posted on 03/05/2010 4:16:37 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: All

On next ping:

Delahunt won’t seek relection
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464645/posts

Details of “Einstein” Cyber Shield Disclosed by White House
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464655/posts


905 posted on 03/05/2010 4:32:01 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. [Only leftist intellectuals publicly pick their noses.])
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To: JustPiper

“The Intelligentsia, Intellectuals, and Other Idiots”

An oustanding piece of writing! I posted a comment on it.


906 posted on 03/05/2010 5:20:34 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; JustPiper

Thanks for the work, Arthur, and Just Piper!


907 posted on 03/05/2010 5:22:22 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper

“When I was fighting illegal immigration , SPLC blasted me on the internet from a protest by the Fed Bldg in downtown Chgo -g-
~JP The Rebel”

I was an outspoken activist on illegal immigration when I lived in California. I received 4 death threats, one to my face ;-)


908 posted on 03/05/2010 5:26:13 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper

“I need to make a Priceless Poster with this lol!”

Just calling em as I see em ;-)


909 posted on 03/05/2010 5:27:57 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper

No...


910 posted on 03/05/2010 9:15:18 AM PST by blackie
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To: JustPiper
The agenda to take over all aspects of our lives is on track and moving forward as we sleep.

Notice, the Cap and Trade Bill, announced weeks/months ago is now going a different route. They have decided to place increased prices on the oil companies at the source of the oil, gas, coal, energy. The result will not change nor the intended consequence. It will, indeed, force the prices on all our energy sources to increase like double. Who can stand these increases on everything we buy, eat, require as basic necessities, tax increases are coming. DO NOT BELIEVE IT WILL NOT EFFECT YOU. EVEN THE WELFARE RECICIENTS, ETC. the price of everything across the board will increase.

A year from now ... if they have accomplished these first basic yet catastrophic changes: we will not recognize much about America. Immigration amnesty is coming. The Health care bill is being pushed through and jobs are disappearing. Before the next election there will be some governmet jobs created on government projects. Which will increase the economy for a period. When the project is over ... so are the jobs. Yet the new legislation they are empowered with in Washington will begin to morph into areas, not expected or anticipated. then the one world government and the United Nations changes will come next. Kiss your world good bye.

Our only hope is in God and His mercy. IF ...
__________________________________________________________
“If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my
face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin
and will heal their land. (II Chronicles 7:14)__________________________________________________________

911 posted on 03/05/2010 9:19:39 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: geologist

Our only hope is in God and His mercy. IF ...
__________________________________________________________
“If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my
face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin
and will heal their land. (II Chronicles 7:14

~Bump in Truth!


912 posted on 03/05/2010 3:35:12 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: blackie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462221/posts?page=10#10

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462221/posts?page=11#11

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462221/posts?page=83#83

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462221/posts?page=89#89

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462221/posts?page=90#90

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462221/posts?page=224#224

when I post new ones, I’ll ping you, am putting it up later


913 posted on 03/05/2010 3:38:13 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Your continued support having my back makes it well worth it Arthur


914 posted on 03/05/2010 10:51:41 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

HUGE and SERIOUS (spelled correctly)

~Thank You!


915 posted on 03/05/2010 10:53:16 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: Vaquero

But Vaquero I put him on da C note -g-


916 posted on 03/05/2010 10:54:05 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I loved it too Stephen!

To see you smile:

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=781773612372&ref=nf
NewsBusted for 3.5.10


917 posted on 03/05/2010 10:54:58 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Just keep having our backs SJ :)


918 posted on 03/05/2010 10:55:33 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

See we are the proper kinda rebels!


919 posted on 03/05/2010 10:56:04 PM PST by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=855#855~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; JustPiper
Did you see this?

Obama comforts House liberals: Don’t worry, this bill is just the beginning of what we’ll do with health care
posted at 7:24 pm on March 4, 2010 by Allahpundit

Memo from The One to progressives: Keep the dream alive.

Obama argued to the group of progressive members that his health care reform bill should be looked at as the foundation of reform, that can be built on in the future. He asked them to help gather votes for the final health care battle and promised that as soon as the bill was signed into law, he’d continue to push to make it stronger. But in a matter of weeks, he stressed, he could sign into law legislation that would lead to 31 million new people being insured, including the woman who wrote him…

“He just said that the public option, something that he has supported along the way, is not something that we can pass. And he emphasized the fact that the decision now is between doing as much as we can do and doing nothing. That’s it. He thought the whole foundation thing — that this is definitely something we could be proud of, something we could build off [of],” said Schakowsky.

Woolsey told Obama that she’d be introducing legislation to create a public option and Obama said he encouraged the effort, according to Schakowsky.

snip
None of the members, including Kucinich, indicated that they would vote any differently this time around. “I think [Kucinich] left the meeting leaving the impression with the president that he’s a no-go,” said Schakowsky.

But, said one attendee, Obama pointed Kucinich toward single-payer language that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was able to get into the bill. Kucinich fought for an amendment that would allow states to adopt single-payer systems without getting sued by insurance companies. Obama told Kucinich that Sanders’s measure was similar but doesn’t kick in for several years. “He definitely wrote it down,” said one member of(about) Kucinich, suggesting that he’d look into it.

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Sneaky muthah!!! I am telling you, this needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

REPEAT THIS!
Obama pointed Kucinich toward single-payer language that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was able to get into the bill.

920 posted on 03/06/2010 3:48:59 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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