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Yakima kindergartner expelled for making a gun with hands
www.kndu.com ^ | 02/12/10 | kndu.com

Posted on 03/05/2010 6:52:07 AM PST by TornadoAlley3

YAKIMA, Wash.- Manuel Alvarez eats breakfast and gets ready for school. He's eager but nervous. He was expelled Monday from Barge Lincoln Elementary for making a gun with his hands. His mom says it's a hand gesture that could have easily been corrected.

"He didn't know did they talk to him about it what actions were taken to tell him this isn't allowed," Lorena Hurtado, Manuel's mother.

Manuel has a clean record never in trouble before his mother says a warning would have worked or even a parent-teacher meeting. Instead, His mom says, Manuel's afraid.

"I got a call from the School saying he's not raising his hand or speaking up. He's scared after we talked about not doing any gestures, he probably doesn't want to to do it because that could be a gesture. It might get him pulled out for two days," said Hurtado.

Manuel's mom doesn't see anything wrong with her son putting his hands like this and shooting down at the ground. She doesn't think it poses an immediate threat to the school or Manuel's classmates. We took the issue to School District employees and asked them about their policy.

"When students are at school they should be concerned about learning….safety shouldn't be a concern at school, we have a zero tolerance policy," said Dr. John Irion, from the Yakima School District.

Hurtado understands the policy, but in this case doesn't think the punishment fits the crime, especially when the student in question is in kindergarten.

"A five-year-old shouldn't be held to the same policy as a 12th grader...he is in kindergarten," said Hurtado.

Lorena Hurtado is appealing the expulsion and wants to try to clear her son's record. She says she doesn't want her five-year-old to be labeled as a troublemaker.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: arth; banglist; boys; discipline; expelled; gun; hands; kindergarten; kindergartner; publicschools
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1 posted on 03/05/2010 6:52:07 AM PST by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

I would make something with MY hands, mostly the middle fingers, and show it to the school................


2 posted on 03/05/2010 6:53:57 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Silly school


3 posted on 03/05/2010 6:54:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: TornadoAlley3

Clearly the only logical solution is to ban thumbs and index fingers at school. We won’t be able to control little kids from making gun gestures so let’s just make it to where they can’t make them anymore.

That will make us a much safer and peaceful country.


4 posted on 03/05/2010 6:54:12 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Blue Jays
Zero-tolerance is moronic.


5 posted on 03/05/2010 6:54:36 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: TornadoAlley3

As Biden would say: One word..Home Schooling


6 posted on 03/05/2010 6:55:09 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: TornadoAlley3

“we have a zero tolerance policy,” said Dr. John Irion, from the Yakima School District.”

Yep. Also zero common sense. What’s next, expelling kids for what they think? Oh, silly me - didn’t Homeland Security mention they were working on that?


7 posted on 03/05/2010 6:56:16 AM PST by spaced
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To: TornadoAlley3
A gangbanger in the making. Next, he will pretend his finger is a butter knife. Or even a Jedi light saber.
8 posted on 03/05/2010 6:56:30 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: TornadoAlley3

Hands should banned from schools.


9 posted on 03/05/2010 6:58:06 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: TornadoAlley3

When fingers are outlawed, only outlaws will have fingers.


10 posted on 03/05/2010 6:58:34 AM PST by wbill
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To: TornadoAlley3

I wonder how many of those at the school actually wet their pants at the sight of this kid making a gun out of his hand?


11 posted on 03/05/2010 6:58:57 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: for-q-clinton
the only logical solution is to ban thumbs

From Jane Fonda to Jack the Ripper, every successful criminal in history has had opposable thumbs.

12 posted on 03/05/2010 6:59:23 AM PST by laotzu
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….safety shouldn't be a concern at school, we have a zero tolerance intelligence policy," said Dr. John Irion, from the Yakima School District.

There, fixed it.

13 posted on 03/05/2010 6:59:53 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
They can have my hands when they pry them from my cold dead.......... Wait a minute, that doesn't work does it?

Did the kid say "bang" when he made the gun with his hand? If so, better lock him up.

14 posted on 03/05/2010 7:00:25 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Ping
15 posted on 03/05/2010 7:00:32 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
OH MAN!!!!! I just though of something that kids ‘gun’ is capable of firing FULL AUTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope someone didn't call the ATF, because they will surely confiscate the kids hand!!!
16 posted on 03/05/2010 7:00:58 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: TornadoAlley3
hm... on the surface this sounds kind of silly...

However... frankly it would depend on the circumstances and what the context of the situation was.

If he was playing a game on the playground and using his fingers as a gun to pretend to shoot bad guys or something.. then this is beyond silly.

However... I can just see an inner city school with really bad kids where some bully wanna be gangster is sitting in class picking on someone he hates by whispering after school your dead! while making a gun with his fingers pointing at the other boy and slowly dropping his thumb and making a shooting sound.

That sort of thing in an environment like that would scare the bejesus out of me, and should be taken VERY seriously.

17 posted on 03/05/2010 7:01:24 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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18 posted on 03/05/2010 7:02:53 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: TornadoAlley3

Smart move by the school.

I mean, what if the kid had shot someome with a virtual bullet?


19 posted on 03/05/2010 7:03:08 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Our politicians are stupid and our policies unsustainable)
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To: wintertime

20 posted on 03/05/2010 7:03:46 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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