Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hidden Gas Source Could Speed Global Warming
aolnews.com ^ | March 4, 2010 | Gregory Mone

Posted on 03/05/2010 10:09:05 PM PST by neverdem

AOL News (March 4) -- Scientists have uncovered a powerful source of a leading greenhouse gas that is venting into the atmosphere at unprecedented rates. The permafrost beneath the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, a relatively shallow section of the Arctic Ocean, has been pumping 7.7 million tons of methane into the air each year -- roughly the amount released into the atmosphere by the rest of the world's oceans combined.

The researchers, who report their work in the March 5 issue of Science, caution that their findings in this previously unstudied region raise more questions than answers. The amount of methane released, though higher than expected, represents only a fraction of total global methane emissions.

But further warming could trigger added leakage of the greenhouse gas in the area, potentially leading to a positive feedback cycle. "The current global change might contribute to this process. It might accelerate this process," says University of Alaska Fairbanks scientist Natalia Shakhova. "The subsea permafrost is significantly more sensitive to further warming."

Jacques Descloitres, MODIS Land Rapid Response Team Scientists are concerned about the amount of methane being released from the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, an area that has not been studied until recently. Methane ranks third on the list of greenhouse gas culprits, after water vapor and carbon dioxide, but its concentration in the air has more than doubled in recent centuries. In the past, atmospheric methane levels have varied between .3 and .7 parts per million. Currently, the numbers are up to 1.85 parts per million -- a 400,000-year high. Above the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, this figure is even greater.

"They're measuring very high concentrations that aren't observed elsewhere," says University of Florida climate scientist Ted Schuur, who has studied climate change in the region. "Carbon is moving between different parts of the earth system every year," he explains. "The question for the future is whether we are losing some kind of balance and going into a new carbon state."

The study by Shakhova et al. does not answer that question, Schuur says, but it highlights the East Siberian Arctic Shelf as a potentially critical hot spot for further research. Though that's a paradoxical description: It is a barren, frozen and thoroughly unpleasant region where "warm" temperatures are those just below freezing.

Shakhova and her colleagues braved the conditions, conducting eight separate research trips to the area over several years, ultimately taking more than 5,000 measurements at sea. Schuur and other scientists had studied the release of methane from the permafrost on land, but no group had analyzed the region below the water.

This underwater source has been subject to massive change. At various points in Earth's history, it has been a frozen plain that effectively traps its methane stores. But that plain was flooded as the world warmed since the last ice age, and it now sits under seawater significantly warmer than the air in the surrounding region. So while the terrestrial permafrost has remained frozen, its subsea counterpart has thawed, sending its methane stores into the atmosphere.

Shakhova explains that while the rate of release the scientists measured on the East Siberian Arctic Shelf is already high, relative to the rest of the world's oceans, it could still increase further. Several major rivers flow into that sea, and increased temperatures in the area could lead to more runoff.

This warmer river water could raise the temperature of the sea further, driving the release of still more methane. Shakhova estimates that even if just 1 percent of the methane stored in the permafrost were released into the air, it could triple atmospheric levels of the gas.

The broader implications of the findings are hard to gauge -- Shakhova said it is too early to tell how her research could affect the projections of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But she and other scientists will be monitoring that icy hot spot for years to come.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; fryentology; globalwarming; goebbelswarming; goebels; gorebullwarming; methane; permafrost; thomasgold
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last
To: John Leland 1789
But further warming could trigger added leakage of the greenhouse gas in the area, potentially leading to a positive feedback cycle. "The current global change might contribute to this process. It might accelerate this process," says University of Alaska Fairbanks scientist Natalia Shakhova. "The subsea permafrost is significantly more sensitive to further warming."

Follow da money. Your taxes hard at work employing Russian scientists

Natalia Shakhova is a NOAA stooge who dances to their funding tune

This is a NOAA funded study therefore is suspect. NOAA is cherry picking what it will fund. There is a lot going on, on this planet that if NOA threw money at it would contradict global warming

http://www.iarc.uaf.edu/people/indiv/iarc_all_staff.php?photo=nshakhova

http://research.iarc.uaf.edu/SSSS/

http://research.iarc.uaf.edu/SSSS/funding.php

 

41 posted on 03/06/2010 3:18:43 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: kik5150
"What they don’t explain is how this organic material frozen in the permafrost got there in the first place. Obviously it was warm enough eons ago for the organic matter to be deposited there. In contrast, it was covered an ice sheet a mile thick not so long ago."

Bingo. It's interesting as a regional anomaly, if that's what it is, but it's a nothingburger compared to our overdue (and impeding) modern Ice Age.

42 posted on 03/06/2010 4:15:42 AM PST by StAnDeliver (\)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: neverdem; Fractal Trader; tubebender; marvlus; Genesis defender; markomalley; Carlucci; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

43 posted on 03/06/2010 4:56:23 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
AOL News

AOHell News doesn't pass the laugh test....best thing to do is stop reading once you see those two words in series...on a side note, sarasotamagazine.com has an equally laughable article about the 'rising sea level' making everyone in sarasota homeless...Koolaid now being served in aisle one.

44 posted on 03/06/2010 5:37:35 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem


45 posted on 03/06/2010 6:31:18 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Methane levels are stabilizing.

Even the climate models build in a stable methane forcing starting in a decade or so.

Methane has already increased from 700 ppb to 1900 ppb (and is expected to stay below 2000 ppb). We have already seen ALL of the methane warming there is to come.

The climate scientists don’t even know what their own science says.


46 posted on 03/06/2010 6:31:25 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
But further warming could trigger added leakage of the greenhouse gas in the area

Then again, it could not.

47 posted on 03/06/2010 6:33:30 AM PST by FourPeas (servantscenter.org -- Jesus' hands and feet on the streets serving those in need)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

The last Eemian interglacial 125,000 years ago was 2.5C warmer than today globally (which would be 4.0C to 5.0C warmer in the Arctic than today) and there was no additional release of methane - just the normal interglacial rise to 600 ppb to 700 ppb.


48 posted on 03/06/2010 6:55:22 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Drill, baby, drill!


49 posted on 03/06/2010 9:43:07 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blackbart.223

“But she and other scientists will be monitoring that icy hot spot for years to come.”

On your’s and mine tax dollars no doubt....


50 posted on 03/06/2010 9:44:04 AM PST by mo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: neverdem; 11B40; A Balrog of Morgoth; A message; ACelt; Aeronaut; AFPhys; AlexW; America_Right; ...
D0000MAGE!

Global Warming PING!

You have been pinged because of your interest in environmentalism, alarmist wackos, mainstream media doomsday hype, and other issues pertaining to global warming.

Freep-mail me to get on or off: Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to all note-worthy threads on global warming.

Climate scientists plot to fight back at skeptics

Al Gore Emerges from Hiding, Calls Us a “Criminal Generation”

Al's Latest Global Warming Whopper

EDITORIAL: Global warming winners

Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home

Global Warming on Free Republic

Latest from Global Warming News Site

Latest from Greenie Watch

Latest from Junk Science

Latest from Terra Daily

51 posted on 03/06/2010 11:58:44 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
...could trigger added leakage of the greenhouse gas in the area, potentially leading to a positive feedback cycle. "The current global change might contribute to this process. It might accelerate this process," says University of Alaska Fairbanks scientist Natalia Shakhova.

It could lead to more unicorns reproducing too - if there were unicorns - - or more global warming - if there was global warming.

If we had bacon we could have bacon and eggs if we had eggs...

52 posted on 03/06/2010 12:29:26 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: digger48
Wasn’t me.

LOL!
53 posted on 03/06/2010 1:17:38 PM PST by RogerFGay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ApplegateRanch

:’D It’s so simple, and yet so elegant and mathematical. Bravo AGR!


54 posted on 03/06/2010 1:18:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Let me be the first to call Gregory Mone (who wrote the article) a liar. This issue has already been around the block. Methane leaks are not uncommon and this one is quite tiny compared to total world-wide release of methane into the atmosphere. The researcher who first reported this, apparently wants more funding to continue the research. But it’s nothing for the general public to be concerned about.


55 posted on 03/06/2010 1:21:00 PM PST by RogerFGay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ApplegateRanch

:’)


56 posted on 03/06/2010 1:34:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: RogerFGay
The researcher who first reported this, apparently wants more funding to continue the research.

Is his name Grant Junkie?

57 posted on 03/06/2010 2:10:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Burn it the create carbon dioxide and water.


58 posted on 03/06/2010 2:59:57 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tpmintx
Turn it into CO2 and heat somebody’s house. 7M Tons of methane can heat a few houses.

All you gotta do is light it. Where the CH4 - O2 mixture is in the combustible range, you'll get a few marsh lights. (In Siberia, who cares about marsh lights?) And CO2 and some water will result.

On the other hand, lets speed the production of CH4 up. It may help delay the ice age that awaits us.

59 posted on 03/06/2010 3:50:41 PM PST by Ole Okie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe
This appears to have been going on since time immemorial. Just like underground burning coal seams have been a fact since all of recorded history. Just because it has only recently been studied, media flunkies think it just started. And "scientists" will let them believe that too, as it means money in their pockets.
60 posted on 03/06/2010 8:22:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson