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Vitamin D, Adiposity, and Calcified Atherosclerotic Plaque in African-Americans

Prevalence and Associations of 25-Hydroxyvitamin D Deficiency in US Children: NHANES 2001–2004

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"The Numbers Needed to Treat"

1 posted on 03/08/2010 5:33:34 PM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 03/08/2010 5:47:58 PM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: neverdem
Conclusions: We confirmed an inverse association between vitamin D and visceral adiposity in African-Americans with diabetes. In addition, positive associations exist between 25-hydroxyvitamin D and aorta and carotid artery CP in African-Americans. The effects of supplementing vitamin D to raise the serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D level on atherosclerosis in African-Americans are unknown. Prospective trials are needed to determine the cardiovascular effects of supplemental vitamin D in this ethnic group.
3 posted on 03/08/2010 5:57:53 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: neverdem

Before Dr. Buckley starts sounding the alarms bells about dangers of Vitamin D supplementation in relation to atherosclerosis, she might want to investigate the role of Vitamin K2, which studies have shown transports calcium to where it should be, to the bones and away from harmful buildup in the arteries, thereby inhibiting atherosclerosis. Several supplement manufacturers now come D3 and K2 into one supplement:

http://www.vitacost.com/Twinlab-D3-Plus-K2-Dots

You can Google Vitamin K2 and calcium transport and see many links which discuss this research. Not yet accepted, but many studies have shown this to be a role of K2:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Vitamin+k2+calcium+transport&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS345US345&ie=UTF-8

And, the darker the skin, the less Vitamin D a person absorbs from the sun. It could be that blacks, who do absorb less from the sun, might actually have a lower need form Vitamin D than whites, who’ve both probably adapted to particular levels of Vitamin D over thousands of years.


4 posted on 03/08/2010 6:23:09 PM PST by Will88
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To: neverdem

<Vitamin D, Adiposity, and Calcified Atherosclerotic Plaque in African-Americans

You can’t win, huh? I just came from my OBGYN nurse practitioner who said I needed to talk to my endo (I’m a black Type II diabetic) about how much D to take. I’ve been taking some, my previous endo recommended that I take it (I started before his recommendation), but never gave an amount. The nurse practitioner said I should get my levels tested so I’d know just how much to take. Now this article suggests maybe I shouldn’t take it. Who knows? I’ll show it to the new endo this week.

One thing I’m curious about is did they control for diet? I’ve been vegan for 2 years. There’s a lot that I don’t eat, especially things that might cause heart problems down the line. So, are the results of the test true for all black diabetics or only for those who eat the standard American diet? I’m just thinking out loud here, I’m not expecting an answer.


5 posted on 03/08/2010 6:33:20 PM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: neverdem

One tbs of Cod Liver Oil will give you 340% the recommended Daily value of D.

Seems like the most economical way to get the vitamin.


12 posted on 03/08/2010 7:07:14 PM PST by JimVT (Oh, the days of the Kerry dancing, Oh, the ring of the piper's tune)
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Vitamin D crucial to activating immune defenses

New method to grow arteries could lead to 'biological bypass' for heart disease

Americans want Uncle Sam's help putting healthy foods on their dinner table (however...)

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13 posted on 03/08/2010 7:08:17 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

I am a Type 2 Diabetic on Insulin
Also have Coronary Disease and arthritis.

I tried taking 1000IU of D3, no effect. Upped it to 2000IU per day and saw slightly better blood sugar readings. I went to 5000IU of d3 and I had the best sugar control I have had in 2 years. The downside was I also had constant diarrhea. That ended my experimentation with D3. [grumble]

I went over this with my Endo. My next blood draw (later this month) will include a test for vitimin D levels.


25 posted on 03/08/2010 7:55:37 PM PST by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: neverdem

Maybe McCain can outlaw Vitamin D to protect us from our own free will.


26 posted on 03/08/2010 8:26:56 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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42 posted on 03/09/2010 7:48:22 AM PST by Running On Empty ( The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: neverdem
My well-considered reaction to reading this article (three times) is WHOA!!!
54 posted on 03/09/2010 8:42:15 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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I’ve seen my endo and thought I’d come back here and ask some questions.

It turns out I have very low Vit D. The doc put me on 50,000 units, every 2 weeks.

Is anyone else doing the high dosage thing? Any side effects - tummy upset, diarrhea? Are you taking this for years, or just until your levels get up, then you can take regular doses? (and yeah, I shoulda asked my doctor, shoot me.)

I find it was interesting that I had such low Vit D levels, even though I had been taking 1-2,000 units for almost a year. I guess it wasn’t enough.


56 posted on 04/02/2010 3:52:00 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: neverdem

LOL, hardly, Vitamin D is very much needed. The big Pharmies want you guys to fall for all this crap that suppliments do not work, this is why they are using the FDA to try and get suppliments banned.


58 posted on 09/16/2010 9:33:41 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: neverdem

A clinical trial led by Mitsuyoshi Urashima and conducted by the Division of Molecular Epidemiology in the the Department of Pediatrics at the Jikei University School of Medicine Minato-ku in Tokyo found that vitamin D was extremely effective at halting influenza infections in children. The trial appears in the March, 2010 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (Am J Clin Nutr (March 10, 2010). doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.29094)

The results are from a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study involving 334 children, half of which were given 1200 IUs per day of vitamin D3. In other words, this was a “rigorous” scientific study meeting the gold standard of scientific evidence.

In the study, while 31 of 167 children in the placebo group contracted influenza over the four month duration of the study, only 18 of 168 children in the vitamin D group did. This means vitamin D was responsible for an absolute reduction of nearly 8 percent.


59 posted on 09/16/2010 9:34:43 AM PDT by Scythian
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