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Durbin Implies Obama Not ‘Telling the Truth’ about Health Care Premiums
CNSNEWS ^ | Wednesday, March 10, 2010 | Melanie Hunter-Omar

Posted on 03/11/2010 5:47:24 AM PST by Mozilla

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) on Wednesday contradicted President Barack Obama on whether the health care reform bill will lead to a decrease in health care premiums.

Durbin claimed that rates would go up, while the president said the rates would go down.

“Anyone who would stand before you and say well, if you pass health care reform, next year's health care premiums are going down, I don't think is telling the truth. I think it is likely they would go up, but what we are trying to do is slow the rate of increase,” Durbin said, speaking on the Senate floor.

Compare Durbin’s remarks to what President Barack Obama said during a speech at Arcadia University in Glenside, Pa., on Monday.

“Our cost-cutting measures mirror most of the proposals in the current Senate bill, which reduces most people’s premiums and brings down our deficit by up to $1 trillion over the next decade because we’re spending our health care dollars more wisely,” the president said.

But as CNSNews.com reported, the Congressional Budget Office’s analysis of the final Senate health care bill indicates that it would impose a mandatory $15,000 annual fee on middle-class families that earn greater than 400 percent annually of the federal poverty level. That means $88,200 for a family of four.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; durbin; obama; obamacare
Not exactly anything I didn't know, but still it is good to hear it from the horses mouth.
1 posted on 03/11/2010 5:47:25 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Duh!!! The way you can tell when Bama is lying is when his lips move....


2 posted on 03/11/2010 5:51:40 AM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: Mozilla

Was it Steyn that said yesterday “Adding 30 million new people to health care is going to save $1 Trillion — too bad we don’t have 60 million new people to cover”


3 posted on 03/11/2010 5:52:07 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Mozilla

Is Durbin worried about getting reelected?


4 posted on 03/11/2010 5:52:36 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Mozilla
But as CNSNews.com reported, the Congressional Budget Office’s analysis of the final Senate health care bill indicates that it would impose a mandatory $15,000 annual fee on middle-class families that earn greater than 400 percent annually of the federal poverty level. That means $88,200 for a family of four.

Bears repeating.

5 posted on 03/11/2010 5:54:59 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: Mozilla
Not exactly anything I didn't know, but still it is good to hear it from the horses mouth.

...or from the other end

6 posted on 03/11/2010 5:56:13 AM PST by scottinoc
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To: Mozilla

Yeah, but from Durbin, this is significant. He’s a lefty’s lefty.


7 posted on 03/11/2010 5:59:34 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Hell let’s cover 360 million people. THEN WE CAN PAY OFF THE FEDERAL DEBT!!!! That’s why they want to grant amnesty....to reduce the debt!! Ohhh...what a great plan! /s


8 posted on 03/11/2010 6:02:40 AM PST by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: AD from SpringBay; Mozilla

“Yeah, but from Durbin, this is significant. He’s a lefty’s lefty.”

An Illinois lefty’s left!

Interesting.


9 posted on 03/11/2010 6:03:20 AM PST by maggief (Not everything is what it seems.)
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To: Mozilla
Has there ever been another leader (of any country in the free world) who was a congenital liar like Obama?

Obama is simply amazing! There is no truth in him...NONE!

In fact, in my entire life, I have never known a human being who was such a liar!

10 posted on 03/11/2010 6:04:16 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: Mozilla

This is a major new crack. This needs to be on every talk show and Fox ALL DAY!!!


11 posted on 03/11/2010 6:05:52 AM PST by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: Mozilla

durbin ain’t the horse’s mouth

So, this is what we can expect

“yes- your healthcosts went up- but if we hadn’t raped you legislatively, they’d have gone up a lot more”

Kind of like all the jobs that have been “saved or created” by porkulous


12 posted on 03/11/2010 6:12:54 AM PST by silverleaf ("Congress is America's only native criminal class."- Mark Twain)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LOL!!! Steyn is the best!!


13 posted on 03/11/2010 6:20:27 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: savedbygrace

MOST of Bammy’s DEMOCRAT voters don’t HAVE FAMILIES, and they don’t make $88,200.00...they are on WELFARE!@


14 posted on 03/11/2010 6:21:37 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mozilla

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.

PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District

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The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
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15 posted on 03/11/2010 6:49:00 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: savedbygrace

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ~~ President Ronald Reagan

We The People, Ray Stevens (obamacare) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_-L4fyLUo

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them. FEES are another name for TAXES.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
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OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

Defaulted Loans May Haunt Seniors (Cuts SS CHECKS)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467213/posts

Obama to outline $313 billion in Medicare, Medicaid spending cuts
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/14/nation/na-obama-radio14
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SOCIALIZED MEDICINE THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2468500/posts
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MILITARY & Retired MILITARY

Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


16 posted on 03/11/2010 6:54:35 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: savedbygrace; ExTexasRedhead

Even the commie rag Mother Jones is reporting 0 cut and gut of SS and Medicare.

Obama Puts Social Security on the Chopping Block
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/01/obama-puts-social-security-chopping-block


17 posted on 03/11/2010 7:02:56 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Mozilla

More Washington insiders making a conscious decision not to go along with Their President on everything? Interesting.


18 posted on 03/11/2010 7:04:24 AM PST by FourPeas (servantscenter.org -- Jesus' hands and feet on the streets serving those in need)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Perhaps good old enlightened self interest has kicked in. If he votes for Onadacare he’ll lose his cushy spot at the public trough.

Maybe Reid and Pelosi know there are more demrats out there like Durbin—other thsn the usual so-called Blue Dogs—who will vote no on Onadacare to save their seat. And that is the reason the constutionlly dubious “Slaughter” strategy is being considered.


19 posted on 03/11/2010 8:34:35 AM PST by dools007
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