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Sweet problem leaves bad taste
The Herald-Mail ^ | 04/19/2010 | CHAD SMITH

Posted on 04/20/2010 8:39:41 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: SatinDoll
Actually, the factual information about high-fructose corn syrup has been out and publicly available for a very long time. It’s nothing new.

Yes, and this is a good point. The left, however, instead of trying to educate the masses to make good decisions, attempts to force the government to "do something about it."

Educate me, don't legislate me.

21 posted on 04/20/2010 9:09:16 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: SatinDoll
"This stuff, hfcs, is in damn near everything"

So isn't sorbitol. A sweetener: it's everywhere. It IS toothpaste. In the medical world they don't call it a sweetener though, they call it a laxative. Go ahead, chew 5 or 6 sticks of some sugarless gum, I dare you. (Well, not you personally, I just got into the rant.)


22 posted on 04/20/2010 9:12:25 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: mlocher

“Educate me, don’t legislate me.”

I agree totally.

Refined sugar and white flour are no better for us than high-fructose corn syrup. I don’t go around and make a huge fuss about it, though; I just don’t buy most foods that contain said ingredients.


23 posted on 04/20/2010 9:12:49 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: mylife
Mmmmm! Peach Flavored!

And it's HFCS free!!

Smile

24 posted on 04/20/2010 9:16:06 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: CORedneck

On the subject of corn syrup and sugar, the best way to deal with the issue of prices is to do away with price supports.

And just where in the Constitution does it give Congress the power to establish a Department of Agriculture anyway!


25 posted on 04/20/2010 9:16:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll
I don’t go around and make a huge fuss about it

That is one behaviour that separates conservatives from liberals. A great behaviour, I might add.

26 posted on 04/20/2010 9:17:13 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Domandred
Regular natural sugar doesn’t have near the bad effects.

You see, thats my problem with the HFCS hysteria. Fact is, plain ole "natural" sugar has almost as much Fructose as HFCS. Its nearly as bad, and we eat too much of it as well.

27 posted on 04/20/2010 9:18:46 PM PDT by Paradox (`)
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To: Domandred

The funny thing is that fructose IS the more natural sugar. Cane sugar is the outlier; most fruits and other natural sweets have more fructose than sucrose. Or is there something else about corn fructose that makes it uniquely bad for you?


28 posted on 04/20/2010 9:19:08 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Flavius
HFCs stared in 1957

In this country, HFCS use hit twenty percent around 1980.

The Science Behind the Sweetener


29 posted on 04/20/2010 9:23:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: mlocher; All

We don’t have to wait for the government to tell us what to eat. The food processors are already doing it to us. The solution, prepare your own food from scratch. Try to eat half of it raw. Your body will thank you. People know/care more about feeding their cars, than feeding themselves, and we wonder why there is so much chronic illness.


30 posted on 04/20/2010 9:25:15 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
The solution, prepare your own food from scratch.

An unintended side effect is having more cash to buy gold, lead, silver and other things we will need to keep ourselves healthy. Self reliance is a wonderful thing.

31 posted on 04/20/2010 9:30:43 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Paradox; Domandred

What I get a kick out of is the way they give it a scary set of initials to make it sound artificial: HFCS. No, it’s not corn syrup anymore, it’s HCFS. If we called sucrose, RCSS (Refined Cane Sugar Syrup), I bet we could make people scared of it, too.


32 posted on 04/20/2010 9:31:58 PM PDT by dangus
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Rat studies are problematic.

Yes, but they are frequently the only reason to start decent human studies.

For all we can tell from this, the HFCS may appeal far more to the rat sense of taste than does sucrose (to humans the two have approximately the same flavor).

HFCS is about ten percent lighter in weight for the same amount of sweetness, IIRC.

Also can rats efficiently digest sucrose the way humans can?

I don't know, but they way humans digest it, it's not very good. This paper was a real eye opener. You should read it.

Fructose, insulin resistance, and metabolic dyslipidemia

I probably only read the abstract of the next citation.

Fructose Consumption as a Risk Factor for Non-alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease

33 posted on 04/20/2010 9:43:47 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

yah, yah, yah.

Just make sure you have a couple of gallons of HFCS in your emergency pantry. Some day it may be worth more than you think...


34 posted on 04/20/2010 9:45:39 PM PDT by Bean Counter (My name is Obammymandius, King of kings: look upon my works ye mighty, and despair...)
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To: CORedneck

I never was a big HFCS imbiber but a few years ago I totally eliminated it. Feel much better.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 9:48:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: gleeaikin

We make everything we eat from scratch. Much, much better. Way cheaper, save money, don’t eat as much, have less trash, don’t need to shop as often, eat for health and not just cause it tastes good, taste buds get more sensitive so simple foods taste satisfying, etc.


36 posted on 04/20/2010 9:51:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: dangus; austinmark; FreedomCalls; IslandJeff; JRochelle; MarMema; Txsleuth; Newtoidaho; ...
Or is there something else about corn fructose that makes it uniquely bad for you?

Check the links in comment# 33. At least try to read the abstracts if you haven't seen them before.

FReepmail me if you want on or off the diabetes ping list.

37 posted on 04/20/2010 9:56:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Razz Barry

UnSALTED gravy, perhaps, comrade.


38 posted on 04/20/2010 9:56:18 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: neverdem

I’d like to know who interviewed the rat about the flavor of the two sweeteners, though the human results might suggest why the rat likes HFCS better than sugar.

Standard digestive dogma as I learned in high school biology was that ptyalin in the mouth and digestion in the gut resulted in sucrose becoming a mix of glucose and fructose. Unlike the case with some people vis a vis the disaccharide lactose, there is no widely known problem with sucrose persisting in the gut and feeding gas generating bacteria. Yet the anecdotes undeniably abound about HFCS being worse for health than an equivalent sweetening amount of table sugar.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 9:58:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: neverdem

We banished HFCS from our home about a year ago. My husband & I immediately lost weight and kept it off. We banned it when we read that HFCS sometimes has traces of Mercury as a result of manufacturing methods: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/26/AR2009012601831.html

Correlation does not imply causation with regard to the weight loss, but it is good enough for us. It’s on our list of no-nos now and will remain there as we are both convinced that it is very bad for people.

More and more companies are responding to concerns and are removing HFCS from their products, which can’t be a bad thing: http://adage.com/article?article_id=138583 That was written last year. The list has grown by leaps and bounds since then.


40 posted on 04/20/2010 10:14:27 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Just say no to the man who is too dishonest to say anything believable.)
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