Skip to comments.U.S. Selective Service in Obama cover-up?
Posted on 05/23/2010 4:36:17 PM PDT by Retired Intelligence Officer
Is the U.S. Selective Service System now blocking access to President Barack Obama's online registration records?
Members of the public searching the federal database for the commander in chief's registration are suddenly finding new difficulty, possibly due to the startling revelation of Obama's alleged use of a Connecticut-based Social Security Number.
The Selective Service System, or SSS, collects names of Americans for use by the Department of Defense in the event of a national emergency. On its website, it says it provides the nation "with a structure and a system of guidelines which will provide the most prompt, efficient, and equitable draft possible, if the country should need it."
The problems using the SSS search engine come in the wake of WND's disclosure that two private investigators working independently are wondering why Obama is using a Social Security Number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.
The stunning revelation apparently prompted Internet giant Google to clamp down specifically on WND's report and warn that some sites carrying information on the situation "may harm your computer."
The Social Security website confirms the first three numbers in his ID are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.
"Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by our central office," the Social Security website explains. "The first three (3) digits of a person's social security number are determined by the ZIP code of the mailing address shown on the application for a social security number."
The question is being raised amid speculation about the president's history fueled by an extraordinary lack of public documentation. Along with his original birth certificate, Obama also has not released educational records, scholarly articles, passport documents, medical records
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Senior’s Christmas, 1971 visit may be significant. All lot of stuff was going on at this time.
Anna had just brought Barry to Honolulu from Jakarta. The Dunham’s had lined-up a scholarship to the prestigious Punahou School for Barry. The Dunhams moved into the apartment at S. Beretania St., to be within walking distance of the school — and out of the blue comes the self-described “rake,” Obama Senior — the purpose of the trip? — “to attend to family business”
Senior only saw Obama once in his life, during this trip, and this is the only photo of Barry and Senior — the only one — ever. It was taken at the airport. The decorations clearly identify the visit as occurring during the Christmas season — December 1971.
The Dunhams paid for an apartment in their building for the month that Senior was in town, and were undoubtedly providing him with some walking-around money. The sad truth is Senior spent most of his time partying with with his old snack bar buddies from the University of Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane.
There was a big family blowup during his visit. Senior told Barry to turn off the TV and go study, but Barry wanted to watch “How the Grinch Stole Christmas.” This small incident caused the long-buried hurts and resentments, about how Senior had acted in 1961, to surface between the three Dunhams and Senior. By the time the arguing had ended Barry was only able to watch the last few minutes of the special.
So, out of the blue, Barry’s long-lost father stepped briefly into his life, and just as quickly disappeared. Obama and Senior would never see each other again. It was not an easy month, and what stuck in the boy’s memory was the basketball that Senior gave him as a present at the airport.
After the visit, Anna and Obama’s half-sister Maya returned to Indonesia. Except for occasional visits to Hawaii, Anna, who traveled throughout Southeast Asia on business, would remain based in Jakarta for the remainder of her life.
Now, here’s the mystery. Why would Senior fly halfway across the world to make his only visit to his son at this moment in time? Remember, this was in the era before the deregulation of the airlines. Round-trip airplane tickets from Kenya to Hawaii must have cost a small fortune even by American standards — much less third-world Kenyan standards.
Senior had no money. He had already fallen into disfavor with the ruling Kenyan government. His mentor and protector, Tom Mboya, was assassinated in 1969. Senior was present at the assassination and testified at the subsequent trial, essentially ending his political career, and causing a hit and run attempt on his life. He was spending most of his time drinking scotch and crashing his Mercedes-Benz.
It is clear that the Dunhams underwrote Senior’s visit, but why? It would seem reasonable to conclude that Senior’s pilgrimage had something to do with Barry and Punahou, but what?
What happened in these four weeks? What was so important that caused Senior to travel 20,000 miles? What kind of deal was made? What papers did he have to sign? Was there a payoff?
Speculation: Barry was adopted by stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, when in Indonesia. When Barry was brought back to the USA, they had Senior fly to Honolulu, adopt him back and then sealed all paper work, thereby hiding the Indonesian adoption.
As an aside, it’s pretty clear that the Dunhams were going all the way for little Barry, and it’s equally clear that Senior couldn’t give a rat’s ass.
So why would Obama ever make the core of his autobiography, this statement: “It was into my fathers image, the black man, son of Africa, that Id packed all the attributes I sought in myself...”
Until this trip, Senior never acknowledge Barry. He was a serial bigamist. He abandoned his wives and children. He became a wife-beater and drunk. His arrogance destroyed his government career. He killed a man and lost both legs in alcohol-related accidents and eventually killed himself behind the wheel — hammered!
Thank you Beckwith. I agree, there was a reason for Seniors one and only visit. It was not just a coincidence that he happened to come at that time.
Obambi..You will be asked about this, repeatedly during each and every debate the next time around! Don’t be a thinkin you will be a gettin any free pass, no sir.
The only pictures I’ve seen of Barry and his grandparents are them sitting on a bench. Are there more? This picture makes the grandparents look like good old folks trying to make a living and stuck with a grandkid. When in reality they were major players.
They may not have been wealthy but they had connections. The grandma worked in banking and I’m sure she got her daughter into it. I don’t know what the old man did.
This is becoming more and more obvious that this guy was “selected and groomed” by some very powerful people to get him elected president. And the “black” part was selected so to make it difficult to criticize him without being called a racist. Now the question is “who” and “why”? I think the “why” is to destroy this nation. But “why” destroy it? Bilderbergers?
Re: When in reality they (the Dunhams) were major players.
I have slowly come to believe that Madeline Dunham was the hand that rocked the cradle and has been the force behind Obama.
There’s a few more photos here: http://theobamafile.com/_family/Dunhams.htm
Fred nerks has the best collection.
Some interesting analysis of that pic:
Hoping this would be picked up by Rush, but he has guest host today and tomorrow. Limbaugh’s brother writes for WND, I think.
I’m just ribbing you. Bo worries.
Post the damn link when you quote something like that. You know better. You sound worried. You should be.
Since 1973, social security numbers have been issued by our central office. The first three (3) digits of a person’s social security number are determined by the ZIP Code of the mailing address shown on the application for a social security number. Prior to 1973, social security numbers were assigned by our field offices. The number merely established that his/her card was issued by one of our offices in that State. See also High Group List of SSN’s.
THIS DATA IS STRICTLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES
The chart below shows the first 3 digits of the social security numbers assigned throughout the United States and its possessions. See “Note” at bottom of page.
001-003 New Hampshire 261-267 Florida 449-467 Texas 531-539 Washington
004-007 Maine 589-595 627-645 540-544 Oregon
008-009 Vermont 766-772 468-477 Minnesota 545-573 California
010-034 Massachusetts 268-302 Ohio 478-485 Iowa 602-626
035-039 Rhode Island 303-317 Indiana 486-500 Missouri 574 Alaska
040-049 Connecticut 318-361 Illinois 501-502 North Dakota 575-576 Hawaii
050-134 New York 362-386 Michigan 503-504 South Dakota 750-751
135-158 New Jersey 387-399 Wisconsin 505-508 Nebraska 577-579 District of Columbia
159-211 Pennsylvania 400-407 Kentucky 509-515 Kansas 580 Virgin Islands
212-220 Maryland 408-415 Tennessee 516-517 Montana 580-584 Puerto Rico
221-222 Delaware 756-763 518-519 Idaho 596-599
223-231 Virginia 416-424 Alabama 520 Wyoming 586 Guam
691-699 425-428 Mississippi 521-524 Colorado 586 American Samoa
232-236 West Virginia 587-588 650-653 586 Philippine Islands
232 North Carolina 752-755 525,585 New Mexico 700-728 Railroad Board**
237-246 429-432 Arkansas 648-649 729-733 Enumeration at Entry
681-690 676-679 526-527 Arizona
247-251 South Carolina 433-439 Louisiana 600-601
654-658 659-665 764-765
252-260 Georgia 440-448 Oklahoma 528-529 Utah
667-675 530,680 Nevada 646-647
NOTE: The same area, when shown more than once, means that certain numbers have been transferred from one State to another, or that an area has been divided for use among certain geographic locations.
You'd get edgy, too, if you ORDERED your programmers to hard-code the program to flip off any Obama inquiry...
Weather here is hot and humid this week.
Because it is common for children to fantasize about the missing piece in their lives. He refers to his father's "image", not to his flesh and blood father - he is searching for both his father and himself.
” He went on a scholarship. I assumed it was an academic scholarship. “
One of things in Dreams that Barry wrote about was his lousy academic record.
His mother confronts him “at the start of my senior year “( Pge 94 ) about his slipping grades , his lack of ambition and his drug associates.
His best friend Pablo had just been arrested for possession.
Barry or “ Bar “ as he said his family called him , quotes his mother as saying
“ You haven’t even started on your college applications.” Pge 95
She’s very upset at his poor attitude and he says maybe I’ll just be a bum and hang around.
She says he could get into any college in the US “ if he just put in a little effort.”
So , at the beginning of his senior year-he has poor grades, a lousy attitude, no ambition, runs with drug addicts and uses street drugs himself and no college applications begun.
Not the stuff of academic scholarships it would seem.
On page 96 Bar wrote that he “ graduated without mishap.”
And that he was “ accepted into several respectable schools ( unnamed, naturally ) ,but, that he “settled on Occidental College in Los Angeles
because I’d met a girl from Brentwood vacationing with her family in Hawaii. “
A non sequitur because he never speaks of the girl again or how she motivated him to apply to Occidental.
He then adds that he was “ still going through the motions “ and was as “ indifferent towards college as he was to everything else.”
My impression after looking at the evidence Barry provided in his book ,
is that his grades and attitude precluded acceptance at most American colleges.
The foreign student program at Occidental may have been the only route for him
and the one his family gamed , maybe out of desperation.
His lousy attitude makes me think that Mom or grandma filed out his applications since he could care less during most of his high school years,
especially all during his senior year .
And since he was coming in as a foreign student-no campus visit or interview was required.
Another aspect of his life as a college student were his friends-in the beginning, Muslim foreign exchange students from Karachi, Pakistan.
Not American students or black students or basketball players or fellow Hawaiians.
So, he must have been housed in an area with other foreign students.
Eventually, he also gravitated to the college Marxists.
The following is general information about Social Security numbers and a list which indicates the state and its corresponding area number used by Social Security when assigning Social Security numbers.
The nine-digit Social Security number is divided into three parts
The first three digits are the area number. If your Social Security number was assigned before 1972 when Social Security cards were issued by local offices, the area number reflects the state where you applied for your number. If your number was assigned in 1972 or later when we began issuing Social Security cards centrally, the area number reflects the state as determined by the ZIP code in the mailing address on your application for the number.
The middle two digits are the group number. It has no special geographic or data significance but merely serve to break the number into conveniently sized blocks for orderly issuance.
The last four digits are the serial number. It represents a straight numerical sequence of digits from 0001-9999 within the group.
> Seniors Christmas, 1971 visit may be significant. All lot of stuff was going on at this time.
I agree, too. Reportedly, Obama Sr was only in town for a University of Hawaii 10-year class reunion. That may have been the catalyst that brought Obama Sr 10,000 miles from Kenya to Hawaii in December 1971, but obviously other things happened during that month as well.
I've often thought of an Adoption action (possibly sealing the "birth certificate" per Hawaii Family Court rules), such as:
1) Obama Jr became officially known as Barry Soetoro in the US Court system (Hawaii Family Court);
2) Barry Soetoro’s name was changed BACK to Barack (Barry) Obama (possibly for Welfare benefits); and/or
3) the grandparents took Protective (and possibly LEGAL) Custody of Barack Jr., while Ann went back to her other life in Indonesia with Lolo and Maya. Madelyn and Stanley Dunham may have needed Barack Sr present in the courtroom to make this happen, and they scheduled the Family Court date this ONE time Obama Sr reportedly ever came back to Hawaii December 1971. This is the most-likely scenario, partly as I recall very few (if any) photos of Obama Jr in the 1970s with mother Ann after that December 1971 "reunion". The subsequent photos we have of Obama Jr after December 1971 in the public record are with his grandparents.
I'm guessing Ann, Obama SR & Obama Jr "celebrated" Christmas 1971 together (photo #1 BELOW) and that is when Obama Jr got his BIG GAUDY WATCH before Obama SR jumped back on the plane back to Kenya (photo #2 & #3). Photo #4 below is Obama Jr with his new watch again in 1973. It's likely that Ann jumped on a plane BACK to Indonesia shortly thereafter, leaving "Barry" with her parents in Hawaii.
This from the Obama Timeline http://www.colony14.net/id41.html
Obama, Sr. marries Nidesand in Kenya in 1967. They are eventually divorced, with Nidesand claiming physical abuse. With Obama, Sr., Nidesand has a son, a half-brother of Obama, who lives in Shenzhen, China and who reportedly works in the export business; his name is Mark Ndesandjo. (Another son of Nidesand and Obama, Sr., David Ndesandjo, was killed in a motorcycle accident.) Obama, Sr. eventually has at least eight children with four women. (Two of those children are borne by his ex-wife Kezia while Obama, Sr. is still married to Nidesand.) Obama, Sr. does not see his son Barack, Jr. again until 1971, when he visits Hawaii to attend a reunion of former UH classmates. Obama, Sr. is eventually killed in 1982, at age 46, in an automobile accident. Another accident a year earlier left him with both legs amputated. Alcohol is believed to have been a factor in the final, fatal accident. (Close friend Philip Ochieng, a journalist in Kenya, states that Obama, Sr. was excessively fond of scotch and ended up in poverty without a job.) The earlier automobile accident was, according to at least one source, an apparent attempted hit-and-run assassination in retaliation for Obama having testified against the man who murdered his friend Tom Mboya in 1969. Atheist or not, Obama is given a Muslim burial. [6, 7, 11, 271, 324, 408, 562, 842 p. 22; 2039, 2287, 2682]
All Obama Timeline references at THIS link: http://www.colony14.net/id136.html
The Gaudy watch looks like a hippie style leather watch band popular in the late 60’s early 70’s, you could put a regular watch on it...some for sale on ebay now. I had one..lol...
I was recently reminded that in the pages of his fantasy biography, Obama reported a conversation with his half-sister (?) Auma, wherein she stated that of all of BHO Sr.’s children, the only one who had proper proof of paternity and therefore could receive an uncontested inheritance from BHO Sr. was Mark. Ruth had proof of paternity. None of the other “wives”, including Obama’s mother, it is assumed, did.
Why didn’t Obama have proof of paternity, so that he could inherit from his father? (Putting aside that one must wonder what there was to inherit. Obama reported the conversation; it’s the detail about paternity that matters, in this case.)
Obama also reported in the fictional biography that he found his birth certificate while he was in high school, along with a newspaper article about BHO Sr., but in the article there was NO mention of BHO Sr.’s wife and son.
This means that he HAS seen his birth certificate. Not only a document, allegedly from Hawaii, that proves that another document exists in the Hawaiian files. So he knows what is or was on that document, with regard to paternity.
Therefore, if years later, after his father (?) died and while he was visiting Kenya, Auma and he talked about how ONLY Mark could prove that BHO Sr. was his father, then what, if any, father was listed on Obama’s birth certificate? HE knows.
If Soetoro adopted him and changed his name, legally, to Barry Soetoro, then something would have to happen to undo that adoption. If Soetoro adopted him, and if it were an open adoption, then Obama ought to be able to get a copy of his birth certificate.
If the adoption was undone by BHO Sr.’s visit to Hawaii, then that adoption would also presumably be open, so Obama ought to be able to get a copy of his birth certificate.
The state will release it, in any case, if there’s a court order. Obama could have requested a court order from any judge hearing an eligibility case.
However, if BHO Sr. adopted Obama in order to undo the Soetoro adoption, then why would Soetoro have stated in the divorce papers, a decade later, that he was responsible for Barry’s education, although Barry was over the age of 18? The fact that Barry is mentioned at all, seems to indicate that Soetoro was his legal father at that point in time.
In any case, why would BHO Sr. have to come to Hawaii to help Barry get into Punahou? Wouldn’t/couldn’t Soetoro serve as well? That is, if the scholarship was for a foreign student.
Someone paid BHO Sr.’s way to Hawaii. Who that was and why they did it is an interesting question.
It’s likely that both his “parents” (or all three of them) wanted to palm him off on the grandparents. So you may be correct that they were assuming legal guardianship and needed both “official, biological” parents to sign off on it.
Even if Soetoro adopted Barry, it may be that Stanley Ann reverted to using his original birth certificate, with Obama as father (if it listed him as father), in order to facilitate his entry into schools, for some reason.
Did Kenya sponsor scholarships to Punahou, for example, whereas Indonesia did not?
We do know (or we think we know, if we can believe school photos shown on the Web) that he attended Hawaiian schools as Barry Obama.
He apparently was in Hawaii, visiting his grandparents, for some time during the year before he moved back for good. He was there during summer (according to his book) and it’s likely that he was also there for a time during the previous school year, if one accepts at face value the photo of him in school at Noelani Elementary, in THIRD grade, with his friend Scott Inoue, 1969 around Christmas, if I remember correctly.
He may have been registered there as Barry Obama, simply because Madelyn stuck him in school, using his “original” birth certificate or re-registered him in the public schools under the name that he used in kindergarten.
So it may be that, for continuity’s sake, Stanley Ann wanted him to attend Punahou as Barry Obama and so used whatever documents served her purpose at the time.
It appears possible, even likely, that she and her son used whatever documents, including passports, would serve best at any time.
Multiple documents, different names, different citizenships. Easy as pie.
Senior graduated in June, 1962, but I never heard of a reunion that was held over the Christmas holidays. Hev you?
I smell a Neil Abercrombie tale.
As for the rest of it, it’s probable.
I believe every word you say in that great post Mesta. Thank you. There is only one way that America will ever be rid of Obama, THE PEOPLE must remove him. It will never happen in DC that’s for sure. When there is an ugly job to do the sooner you do it the sooner it’s over with. I simply can’t believe the folks who still think that Obama will be removed via the ballot box. Even watch for November mid-terms to be fixed. They are working overtime stacking the polls right now. CO
LOL I think Candor meant “finally”!! CO
Zero never applied to the US Selective Service, commie that he is, that is why he isn’t there.
The nightmare of The Regime continues...
> I smell a Neil Abercrombie tale.
I couldn’t find the reference, but I believe that it is
Abercrombie who’s responsible for the tale.
I also feel like that big closed door meeting just before the election(that was about the bailout, remember?)had to do with the financial deal and the rigged election.
I don’t know why, but I feel that way.
Right. Those people are a waste of bandwidth.
What, though, if it was the other way around? What if the purpose of senior’s visit was to sign OVER his parental rights to the Dunhams? The results would have been pretty much the same. Records would have been sealed.
I always wondered how Lolo Soetoro could have actually adopted him without the father signing over his parental rights. So it is possible that he used the name Soetoro even though that was not his legal name because his mother wanted it that way after her marriage...until it failed too.
The BIRTH father THEN was brought over by the Dunhams to sign off on him when Barry returned to the US, and I would bet that his mother signed off on HER parental rights as well and allowed the Dunhams to legally adopt him and THEY called him by his LEGAL birth name, Obama.
I would put nothing past the Clintons, but how do you fit in that Khalid Al-Mansour paid for Obama’s Harvard education? How does he fit in this puzzle? He contacted Percy Sutton to write a letter on Obama’s behalf to get Obama into Harvard and then paid for his schooling. How does this all fit?
Let’s try this once more, slowly this time. People typing YOUR info into the system are NOT causing an abnormally high load on the system. People typing Obowmao’s info into the system ARE causing an abnormally high load on the system. If your choice was to add some code to reject the Obowmao queries, or to let them go through and then bring the whole system down, what would you do?
“I would put nothing past the Clintons, but how do you fit in that Khalid Al-Mansour paid for Obamas Harvard education? “
Look at who obama’s closest college buddies were. He is a muslim. He made a trip to Pakistan with Siddiq. Why does ANY muslim go to Pakistan who isn’t from there?
After that trip his muslim sponsor appeared and not before.
Fast forward. obama is clumsily and obviously, trying to serve two masters. islam, and the clinton cartel.
When the interests of one or both collide, there will be fireworks. clinton doesn’t care what obama does as long as HIS objectives are obtained. He gives not one damn about this country and never has. Neither does obama.
In any speed you want, the 3 times statement was a general one, not just for BO’s information. That explanation given by someone in the government department was either a mistake or a lie. That is what I am talking about.
...yes, the Bilderbergers.
My theory or gut tells me that if we looked more at the connection between Khalid Al-Mansour, Obama and the Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, we would maybe be able to tie things together. Maybe that is why Obama bowed to the Saudi King?
How did Obama meet Khalid Al-Mansour and what did Obama promise Al-Mansour in return for his paid Harvard education?
You were implying that there was some conspiracy to cover up the Obama information. The simpler and more logical explanation was the one that I gave. That’s all I’m saying.
Fred - You’re right, this is a credible explanation. The only thing it does not cover is the claimed fact that the Connecticut SS# was issued later in life to a person born in 1890 who was never reported to have died. It is not a re-issue of a used SS#, it is actually a number that belongs to someone (presumably dead) other than Obama even though it is the one Obama is currently using.
I can’t be much help, we don’t have SS numbers in Oz, but you may find the following links usefull:
Like you just did (not)? Like most of the posters on these threads do (not)?
I listed the case, the date and the doc number -- all of the filings in Barnett v Obama are on ScribD -- go search for it yourself.
Well I seem to have a typing sbitch.
“Error. Sorry, your request cannot be processed at this time because you have exceeded the daily limit for the verification of these credentials.”
That is exactly what is happening to me.
I thought it was an anomaly, bad cookies or something.
Did anybody do a screenshot before this started?
A deal was made — and Senior was paid off.
I routinely refer to Hawaiian congress-critter Neil Abercrombie as Obama’s “life beard,” because Abercrombie is the only human being on the planet to put Barack Hussein Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham in the same room together. The first time that there was any documentation of a relationship between the two was in 1971, when Senior mysteriously showed up in Hawaii, “to attend to family business.”
Neil Abercrombie is currently running for the office of Governor of Hawaii.
The Abercrombie brothers, Neil and then Hal, had escaped the darkness of Buffalo, NY, to attend graduate school in Honolulu. Along with their friends Peter Gilpin, Chet Gorman, and Pake Zane, they hung out at the “snack bar” in an old Army-barracks-style building near their business classes. They fancied themselves as intellectuals, experimenters, outsiders, somewhere between beatniks and hippies.
It was there, that they met Barack Hussein Obama Sr. The group was immediately taken by the one and only African student in their midst. “He was very black, probably the blackest person I’ve ever met,” recalled Zane, a Chinese-Hawaiian, who now runs an antiques shop a few miles from the university.
Members of the snack bar crowd don’t remember the Obama-Dunham relationship. In this report, Hal Abercrombie said he never saw them together. Pake Zane could not recall Ann from those days but had precise memories of Senior.
However, Neil Abercrombie, the Democratic congressman from Hawaii, was part of those regular gatherings and claims that Anna was “the original feminist.” Abercrombie says he remembered her appearing at some of the weekend gatherings. Obama was such a strong personality, he said, that he could see how the young woman was awed and overwhelmed by him.
“She was a girl, and what I mean by that is she was only 17 and 18, just out of high school. And he brought her at different times. She mostly observed because she was a kid. Everybody there was pretty high-powered grad-student types.”
Maybe everybody else, including his own brother, was drunk all the time.
Really? How's that?
” I couldnt find the reference, but I believe that it is
Abercrombie whos responsible for the tale. “
In Dreams , in the last sentence on the page , Barry describes his father’s supposed reason for the visit.
” He had been in a bad car accident , and this trip was part of his recuperation after a long stay in the hospital .”
Barry wrote that they all spent most days together driving around the island and most evenings in his grandparent’s living room.
He details all the fun activities they engaged in including
“ driving past the remodeled hospital where I had been born .” ( page 66 )
Barry also described his father as being fragile, having a limp and walking with a cane.
No mention at all of a college reunion .
Jeez, what more do you people want.
Of course Presdident Obama is ineligible to have run for, and to hold the office to which he was elected. However, because he was confirmed in office by The Electoral College, and sworn in by the Chief Justice, the fact that he achieved the position of sitting POTUS by fraud, does not alter the Constitution.
Even if the outrage is now acknowledged by ANY court of law, ONLY Congress can remove him, by Impeachment in the House and unanimous conviction in the Senate. In other words, if the GOP sweeps the field in 2010, and only a few Democrats are left in the Senate, that will not happen.
Barring unforeseen incidents, the man is POTUS, de facto, until 2012. Far more important, IMVHO, is to prepare a Program, a Plan, and to come up with a Leader in order to contain, and reverse the socialistic tide of laws and marxist appointees given to us by the Usurper.
In all probability, this is why almost all elected Republicans, and the conservative radio yakkers continue to ignore the issue. I.e., nothing can be done of a practical nature to remove him before the end of his term. The law cases must continue; the drive for states rights must continue; because this must never be allowed to happen again.