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City Council passes Daley gun restrictions 45-0
Chicago Tribune ^ | 7/2/2010 | John Byrne and Hal Dardick

Posted on 07/02/2010 9:42:42 AM PDT by Petruchio

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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
"The rational purpose of gun control is to be able to rule without the consent of the governed"

That's a keeper.
21 posted on 07/02/2010 10:03:57 AM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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To: Joe Brower

Summery in post #16.

King Richie II has outdone himself this time. Big revenue magnet for the city.


22 posted on 07/02/2010 10:04:15 AM PDT by Petruchio
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To: William of Barsoom
They have a 45-member CITY COUNCIL!!??

Yup. And get this: Chicago Aldermen have concealed carry!

23 posted on 07/02/2010 10:06:20 AM PDT by Petruchio
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To: Petruchio
18 USC Sec. 241 Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured -
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

24 posted on 07/02/2010 10:13:47 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: Petruchio
Gotta be over 21 or Parents must sign application

In Illinois you must be 21 or older in order to own a handgun anyway!

25 posted on 07/02/2010 10:14:04 AM PDT by Petruchio
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To: Petruchio
The Chicago City Council today passed Mayor Richard Daley's new set of gun restrictions 45-0.

Expect the MSM to show the same outrage to Daley defying the Supreme Court as they have shown to state AG's filing suit to block Obamacare.

Not.

26 posted on 07/02/2010 10:24:01 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Petruchio

“fasCistcago”


27 posted on 07/02/2010 10:26:23 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
45 to 0, eh? I imagine it's pretty hard to vote against the mob when Guido & Luigi are waiting outside to break the legs of anyone with the temerity to go against the "will of the people"...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

28 posted on 07/02/2010 10:32:01 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

There simply is NO hope for people who keep electing people like Daley. The few conservatives there ought to pack it up and get outta town!


29 posted on 07/02/2010 10:57:28 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: jessduntno

The City of Chicago has 45 councilmembers?


30 posted on 07/02/2010 10:58:35 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Joe Brower
"...when Guido & Luigi are waiting outside to break the legs....."

HEY!! Youse bedda watch ya mout. Doan tawk dat way or im gonna trow ya a beatin youse ain't gonna fahget.

Ya got dat? FUHGEDDABOUDIT!!

31 posted on 07/02/2010 11:00:53 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: sabe@q.com
The City of Chicago has 45 councilmembers?

Yeah, and each one owns at least 10 toll booths!

I can't believe that they found 45 people in the same room, with no spine to be found anywhere. What are the odds?

32 posted on 07/02/2010 11:01:49 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: Petruchio; William of Barsoom

How ridiculous. The City of Phoenix is the fifth largest city in the country and we have 8 and one of the 8 is the vice mayor.


33 posted on 07/02/2010 11:01:53 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: DCBryan1
Looks like 45 new members added to “the list”.

Be better with .45 new members added.

34 posted on 07/02/2010 11:18:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Petruchio
FOID

Do you need an ID card to buy a book or newspaper, or to attend church? I'm also assuming that this ID card isn't free, which raises another issue.

Chicago Permit (cost $100 every 3 years)

Just adding even more burdens to the exercise of a right.

Register ALL guns at $15 each every 3 years

Let's see...does one have to pay a fee for each book, magazine or paper one owns? Every three years? Does one even need to register these things, even if free?

No Firearms sales in city

That may be a simple zoning issue in any particular place, but to discriminate by law against a business that sells papers or books throughout an entire large city? It is simply unimaginable that the courts would allow such a thing.

Limited to one handgun per month

Back to the books and magazines thing. Oh, and let's add attendence in church and participation in peaceful protests against the government.

90 day grace period to register existing guns

Would a 90-day grace period to register books be upheld?

Training must include 4 hours classroom & 1 hour range time.

Would classroom and practical training be OK as a prerequisite for buying a book? Oh, and who makes the rules about what's in the instruction and test, and what constitutes a passing grade? Nothing like arbitrary and capricious standards to piss off judges.

NO RANGES ALLOWED IN CITY required range time must be in suburbs That's rich - could you imagine requiring transportation to outside of their own jurisdiction (at who's expense, as if I didn't know) in order to take a required reading course and test, in order to be able to buy a book?

Transport broken down, inaccessible, unloaded, in a locked case

Stupid, but they'll get away with this one unless the Court ultimately finds (as they should) that one has a right to protect one's self with the most effective weapon available while traveling.

Firearm only allowed inside dwelling. Not allowed in garage, front porch, yard, etc.

Bible only allowed inside dwelling. Not allowed in garage, front porch, yard, etc.

Only one gun allowed to be in firing condition all others to be broken down or trigger locks.

You can only read one book at a time, none of this whoring around and reading 3 or 4 at the same time on a piecemeal basis.

Guns not allowed in hotels, dorms and group living facilities.

Back to the issue of where your right to self defense ends.

In homes with minors, all guns must be secured when they are not in the possession of the owner.

Define "secured." How expensive is THAT going to be? Will they have semi-annual, warrantless searches so that you can prove to them that you're not committing a "crime?"

Assault weapons are banned, as are sawed-off shotguns and "unsafe" handguns, as defined by the Chicago Police (whatever that means...)

Ah, yes, the definition problem again, as well as the arbitrary and capricious problem.

Seems to me that Larry Gura is going to be a busy man for the next several years, starting with obtaining a temporary injunction on the enforcement of this POS law.

I would just like to know if tars and feathers, or good hemp rope, exists anywhere in the shitty of Shitcago. Gotta be over 21 or Parents must sign application

35 posted on 07/02/2010 11:25:40 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: an amused spectator; Petruchio
“fasCistcago”

"Shitcago"

36 posted on 07/02/2010 11:26:48 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Petruchio

Wow.


37 posted on 07/02/2010 11:28:17 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: William of Barsoom

Actually there are 50 members. 5 must have been gone for the long w/e.


38 posted on 07/02/2010 11:28:17 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Stanley cup champs The Chicago Blackhawks)
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To: saganite

This kind of defiance of a court ruling should lead to

JAIL TIME.


39 posted on 07/02/2010 11:30:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Petruchio
My predictions on the provisions that won't survice legal challenge (FAIL) compared to what Daley's Chicago can probably get away with (PASS):

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*Applicants would need a Chicago firearm permit, PASS costing $100 every three years, FAIL as well as an Illinois firearm owner's ID card. PASS They would be required to register all their guns with the city, at a cost of $15 per gun every three years. FAIL

*Firearm sales would be banned in the city. PASS

*Chicago residents could register no more than one handgun per month for each qualifying adult in a home. FAIL

*People who now own firearms illegally would get a 90-day grace period after the new law takes effect to register the guns PASS without penalty. FAIL

*Gun training totaling four hours in a classroom and an hour on a firing range is required before getting a permit. But firing ranges are banned, so training would need to be completed outside Chicago. PASS

*To transport a gun, it would have to be "broken down," not immediately accessible, unloaded and in a firearm case. (Potential) FAIL -- California's suit against this will arrive in Federal court first.

* Firearms could be possessed only inside the dwelling. It would be illegal to have a gun in the garage, on the front porch or in the yard. Guns also would not be allowed in hotels, dorms and group living facilities. FAIL

*Only one firearm per permit holder can be kept in ready-to-fire condition. Other guns must be taken apart or have trigger locks in place. FAIL In homes with minors, all guns must be secured when they are not in the possession of the owner. PASS

*Permit applicants must be at least 21 years old, unless a parent signs for someone 18 or older. PASS

*Assault weapons are banned, as are sawed-off shotguns and "unsafe" handguns, as defined by the Chicago Police Department, which will maintain an online list of prohibited guns. (Potential) FAIL -- California's suit against this will arrive in Federal court first.

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40 posted on 07/02/2010 11:34:11 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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