Posted on 09/07/2010 7:28:57 PM PDT by earlJam
Edited on 09/08/2010 2:27:45 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Knock off the name calling personal attacks!
If you disagree with someone, address the issue and leave the personal attacks out.
Well the courts have said that the phelps can do what they do as it’s a free speech issue. They are lawyers after all and know how to keep things just within the bounds of the law. I don’t agree with them at all but they continue because they keep getting attention. If they didn’t get the attention early on they would have quit doing this.
I would rather live in a country where the idiots like the phelps are free to do their thing and those who disagree with them can then go and counter protest. That is how free speech works here.
Islam doesn’t give us women free speech by the way. I posted a link to one of the things that the “holy” book allows which made me utterly sick and then angry. This evil religion allows the sick f’n perverted pedophiles to sodomize infants as long as there is no penetration. So please, let’s forget the Phelps and other stupid issues and focus on reality. This country is bending over backwards to kiss the feet of islam all the while this death cult is raping, pillaging and murdering people for not being muslim.
Thank you and the other posters here for the info. Man, I wasn't up to speed on this one! Media makes him sound like a right wing 'guns en bibles' guy who is 'just gonna burn some Korans'. The whole thing is probably a big setup. What are they hiding and why?
Nope...I was responding to this:
“I know what the 1st amendment says. But speech, when it is from an enemy (domestic or foreign), & when it ‘incites’ is not guaranteed (the ‘yelling fire’ in a theatre scenario). We have people taking these lunatics seriously.”
Riddle me this....when is it “legal” to yell fire in a crowded theatre?
I will never support anybody who is in bed with the gang of idiots known as the Phelps family. I had a strange feeling about this “Pastor”, and this just confirmed it.
I support the burning of the Koran as freedom of expression.
I dont care who does it...it’s being done to smoke out the so called “moderate” muslims...
More power to em...
“[And yes, if my husband died I would be glad if Westboro would come and hold their signs and sing at his funeral. Many people would be shocked, but they might be shocked into a fear of God and a decision for Christ. How will they know if someone does not tell them?]”
Pure hogwash.
If she had any brains, she would be apalled.
As a member of the Patriot Guard, I can tell you that these vermin to do not “hold up signs and sing”
They shout filth, and torment the families of the Fallen, and declare it their God given right to do so.
I have seen firsthand the sorrow and the heartache they inflict, and I tell you there is NOTHING God like about it.
This”pastor” and the Westboro Church are what I like to call the lunatic fringe.
They are truly insane.
Do they have a right to protest and hold up their atrocious signs?
Yes, they do.
However, just because you have the right to do something, doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do.
I will never and I mean NEVER allow them to get close to the families of our Fallen.
That being said, the less attention we give these jerks, the better.
Rant off/
If the OP hadn’t posted this, one of us back here would have posted it, that is if had we found it first.
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Really?
One of you moderators would be used like an Obamabot tool to spread the dirt around in such a low life manner?
Can you not see this is just another lowdown way Obama, Holder and the White House is using Alinsky type methods to discredit the “bigots” and defend Islam?
Please - do not lose sight of what at issue here. This whack-job pastor has Obama, Holder and the rest of those goon by the you-know-whats and so they now have devised a plan to have conservatives squabbling about like children over some picky stupid details like how Dove Outreach and Fred Phelps are of the same mind.
Who cares?
Or do you think we should wuss out and not burn korans?
dON’T burn a Koran, use it for toilet paper......then burn it.
At least we allow a Koran to be in this Country. The Saudeeeees wouldn’t even let our soldier get pics of their wives during Gulf War.
Islam is like Mormonism before they changed their ways.....well except its one hundred times worse and we treat them one hundred time better......go figure.
You're on target.
I do know the answer.”
Someone who deliberately does something that harms our men and woman in uniform; and they know ahead of time it WILL harm them; needs to be held accountable for the results of their actions.
Because he’s a ‘real life troll’. These people INTEND on corrupting Christianity.
I am sure that God does NOT approve of the hatefulness of
this “lunitic fringe group”. He is a God of love, not hate,
and He wouldn’t want to be represented by folks who are not
of the same mind. They belong to the devil, in my opinion....
posing themselves as “christians”.
Turning Christians against Christians. Now this is a novel approach toward worldwide domination by Islam.
I did learn from this exercise though. I learned Fran Ingram of DWOC likes this youtube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE&feature=youtu.be&a
I also learned the only thing DWOC shares with WBC is their Christian faith. Since DWOC honors our military. So any attempt to link them otherwise, might be from satan, or perhaps, the Whitehouse. Viewer discretion is advised.
They have linked themselves with Phelps and WBC- Satan didn’t do it. The White House didn’t do it.
And they are NOT Christians.
I am sure that God does NOT approve of the hatefulness of
this lunitic fringe group. He is a God of love, not hate,
and He wouldnt want to be represented by folks who are not
of the same mind. They belong to the devil, in my opinion....
posing themselves as christians.
So YOU speak for God now?
Wouldnt it be a simple thing for God to simply strike them dead?
And if he doesnt....is that a sign of approval?
I’m a Christian...and I will be burning a Koran on 9/11 as an expression...it was written by a pedophile.
I don’t presume to speak for God, but He has helped me to be
able to discern evil and to stay far from it....if I can. He
will deal with whom He chooses, HOW He chooses and WHEN He chooses.
You do what you want....I will do as I am taught in the Bible,
where I DID learn what God wants for me.
Well to each his own. I’m still not clear what your point is or what you thought I meant. Flame away on someone else. Phelps is a despicable piece of crap and the 1st amendment does not give the right to trample over other’s rights. The point I was making about free speech and the 1st amendment was that it is not carte blanche to do anything or say anything at other peoples expense. It was designed to protect political speech and debate. Not to sink crosses in urnine, to run around nude in public, print obscenity or create problems at funerals.
The Constitution has been bastardized and citizens mistakenly believe the protection extends to every vile, disgusting type of behavior that surfaces. It doesn’t and it wasn’t intended that way.
General David Petraeus is boots on the ground while you're fiddling around playing keyboard cowboy.
The Patriot Guard as usual will be riding at the next military funeral. From your pro-Phelps commentary it sounds as if the Patriot Guard will find you standing up in support of Phelps and jeering at another fallen American hero and his family.
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