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Republicans Seek Repeal of Incandescent Bulb Ban
New American ^ | February 21, 2011 | Daniel Sayani

Posted on 03/08/2011 10:38:57 AM PST by CedarDave

Senator Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) has announced that he plans to introduce legislation to reverse the ban on incandescent light bulbs which is scheduled to go into effect January 1, 2014. The ban was included in a comprehensive energy bill that President George W. Bush signed into law in 2007 as an amendment, and was intended as a means of saving energy and limiting pollution.

Senator Enzi’s repeal legislation, the Better Use of Light Bulbs Act (BULB), S. 395, has 27 co-sponsors, including Senator John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) and Senator Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), the latter of whose office issued the following statement on the legislation:

The ban was intended to save on electricity costs and limit pollution by replacing traditional incandescent light bulbs with energy-efficient compact florescent light bulbs (CFLs).

However, CFLs are more expensive, many contain mercury which can be harmful even in the smallest amounts, and most are manufactured overseas in places like China. In September 2010, the last major GE manufacturing plant for incandescent light bulbs in the U.S. closed in Winchester, Virginia and 200 jobs were lost.

A similar bill, H.R. 91, was also introduced in the House by Representative Joe Barton (R-Texas), along with Reps. Michael Burgess (R-Texas), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), and 12 other Republicans.

Under the provisions of the legislation, the phase-out of incandescent light is to begin with the 100-watt bulb in 2012 and end in 2014 with the 40-watt. All light bulbs must use 25 percent to 30 percent less 2014. By 2020, bulbs must be 70 percent more efficient than they are today.

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KEYWORDS: 112th; cfl; cfls; electricity; energy; florescentbulb; incandescentbulb; lightbulbs; nannystate
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Stock up now. It's unlikely that Obama would sign any such bill if it made it through the Senate. And the current act has driven light bulb manufactures out of the US and to China.
1 posted on 03/08/2011 10:39:03 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Let there be light.


2 posted on 03/08/2011 10:44:00 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: CedarDave

CFLs make as much sense as goobermint mandated toilets.

Repeal this stupid “greenie” law.


3 posted on 03/08/2011 10:44:17 AM PST by jimt
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Save the Light bulb vote Republican 2012.


4 posted on 03/08/2011 10:45:22 AM PST by BobSimons
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To: CedarDave; All
"Stock up now. It's unlikely that Obama would sign any such bill if it made it through the Senate."


5 posted on 03/08/2011 10:45:58 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: CedarDave
By 2020, bulbs must be 70 percent more efficient than they are today.

You know, I never studied economics beyond the typical 5th-grade supply/demand, cost/price/profit stuff, but they didn't teach me that you could increase efficiency just by legislation.

They're doing it with cars, now with light bulbs. Who woulda thunk it?

Why don't we just legislate the government to be more efficient?

6 posted on 03/08/2011 10:48:21 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: CedarDave

Need incandescent light bulbs that’ll last for 10 years if used on average of seven hours a day? They are rated for 25,000 hours. You can buy them from a company that markets products to the hospitality industry.

http://www.nathosp.com/product/25k19_c/standard_incandescent_light_bulbs

You can purchase a 24 pk of standard A19 bulbs for about $25.00.


7 posted on 03/08/2011 10:51:34 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: CedarDave

Where does that stupid RINO Fred Upton, who coauthored the light bulb ban, and then was made head of the energy subcommittee this year by our stupid RINO leadership stand on this?

Does he support repealing his own stupid bill? I sure hope so. Upton is a prime illustration of how seniority trumps everything else in the politics as usual GOP, no matter how lousy that senior politician is.


8 posted on 03/08/2011 10:54:28 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: CedarDave
The ban was included in a comprehensive energy bill that President George W. Bush signed into law in 2007 as an amendment, and was intended as a means of saving energy and limiting pollution.

Limiting pollution? LOL.

And just what do they think millions of tons of mercury tainted CFL's tossed into landfills are going to do - freshen them up?

Good grief.


9 posted on 03/08/2011 10:56:31 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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finally, someone in D.C. making sense, lift the ban!


10 posted on 03/08/2011 10:56:57 AM PST by Bassfire (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: CedarDave

Welcome to The United States, up in lights, eh?


11 posted on 03/08/2011 10:57:19 AM PST by onedoug (If)
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To: CedarDave

Might be better in the long run if he does veto it.

Distinctions need to be made.


12 posted on 03/08/2011 10:59:43 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: CedarDave

I suppose the irony that this law was passed by a whole room full of dim bulbs is lost of them, huh?


13 posted on 03/08/2011 11:02:25 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Cicero

Which gives me a chuckle as I remind about that world famous legislation for which John McCain spent so much of his time and political capital on....CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!

Today we all wake up happier and healthier for McCain’s work on that piece of legislation and how important it is in today’s world.

They got nothing better to do than pass stupid laws.

McCain should be so proud of himself. So should this Upton RINO.


14 posted on 03/08/2011 11:03:49 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/2011/02/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I am not in favor of the govt. mandating anything.
However, since I started replacing the lightbulbs in my house with the CFL’s , I have yet to replace one.
I replace the incandescent outside post light about every 6 months.

Also, the amount of mercury in one thermometer is about 5000x more than a CFL lightbulb.

Lastly, LED’s will eventually replace both CFL’s and incandescent bulbs. I have already replaced all my Christmas tree lights with LED’s. They have come down dramatically in the last 3 years. Plus they do not get hot.


15 posted on 03/08/2011 11:11:15 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: CedarDave

who the hell is the federal govenment to tell me what kind of light bulbs to use...or what kind of toilet...or what kind of shower head....or to sort my garbage..or what kind of bags I get at the grocery store....or how many miles per gallon my truck gets....or how much electricity i get to use...please add to the list as you see fit


16 posted on 03/08/2011 11:23:13 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: CedarDave

People in the US have lost their jobs already due to this act.

Politicians playing God because of their stupidity. I hate bureaucrats.


17 posted on 03/08/2011 11:29:10 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: jimt

...and tack repeal of low-flow toilets onto this bill.


18 posted on 03/08/2011 11:42:40 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: woodbutcher1963

What do you do with them when they go out?


19 posted on 03/08/2011 11:43:51 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

“Lastly, LED’s will eventually replace both CFL’s and incandescent bulbs. I have already replaced all my Christmas tree lights with LED’s. They have come down dramatically in the last 3 years. Plus they do not get hot.”

Praying for the day LED replaces the 1000 Watts of lighting we have on our salt water reef aquarium. Right now our power meter spins like a 78 record. Even had cops knock on the door once suspecting we had a pot growing operation because we used so much more power than everyone else. Thankfully the Officer was very interested in the hobby and we had a good laugh and talked fish. Am told LED is coming for us - but how long?


20 posted on 03/08/2011 11:48:06 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Throw them in the trash that ends up in a landfill.

I do not lose any sleep over it.


21 posted on 03/08/2011 12:13:47 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

I replaced all my incandescents with CFL’s about a year ago, but I did it to cut my utility bill, not because the government told me to.

Just this last weekend, I replaced all the lamps in my bathroom vanity with LED’s (six of ‘em.) Still too expensive to do the whole house right now, but I’m hoping they’ll come down in price as more people buy them.


22 posted on 03/08/2011 12:16:41 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: woodbutcher1963

LOL

Just gotta laugh and go on. Hoping all this crap can be undone.


23 posted on 03/08/2011 12:29:44 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

“I replaced all my incandescents with CFL’s about a year ago, but I did it to cut my utility bill, not because the government told me to.”

I have been doing it for about 3 years as the old ones burned out for the same reason as you($). The CFL’s do last a lot longer. My wife hates them. There have been coupons available for the Slyvania CFL’s that make them free at my local supermarket. I have about 30 of them that were all free(even 3 way bulbs).

I used to put Christmas lights on 4 trees in the front yard up until a couple years ago. I stopped because my electric bill was going up about $35 just because of all those 6 watt bulbs(probably 300). I love the LED Christmas lights. If you buy them at the end of the season at Walmart they are really cheap.


24 posted on 03/08/2011 12:48:27 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: All

I can’t use the curly bulbs - I have migraines. These bulbs do weird things to people who suffer from most types of migraines, or have “sunlight deprivation” depression. LOL, I don’t think that is the technical term for that, but you get what I mean.

I can’t even sit next to a lamp with one of those curly things in it or I quickly feel sort of irritated.

After hearing about the coming ban on normal bulbs, I began buying ‘em up. Only Slyvania though, GE can screw off. I intend to buy enough to get me through till I croak.
The difference in our electric bill when we did have those curly bulbs was zero anyway, and Slyvania bulbs seem to last a decent length of time.

Honestly, before my experience with the curly bulbs, I never gave a thought to light bulbs having any impact on my migraines or temper. I’m a believer now though.


25 posted on 03/08/2011 12:49:28 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Fishtalk
They got nothing better to do than pass stupid laws.

My nomination for Post Of The Day!

26 posted on 03/08/2011 12:53:05 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: CedarDave

Just bought another case of 100W bulbs. If these idiots succeed in getting rid of them, I predict a thriving market on EBAY for these light bulbs based on my non-scientific experiment with Gore approved lights: 1) My wife hates them and complains their low light levels and greenish colors annoy her 2) the substantial extra cost per light bulb was not recouped by savings in electrical bills because most of them burned out about as fast as the incandescent lights and 3) these suckers are toxic, wait until landfills are full of them and oozing into the environment.


27 posted on 03/08/2011 1:01:15 PM PST by Gen-X-Dad
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To: woodbutcher1963
However, since I started replacing the lightbulbs in my house with the CFL’s , I have yet to replace one.

We started lamping the house with them over a decade ago, using them more in interior spaces as light quality improved. So far 4 have died -- one of the first two installed, running 24/7, started failing in December and was replaced.

Also, the amount of mercury in one thermometer is about 5000x more than a CFL lightbulb.

I think you're off a bit. The old fever thermometers contained somewhere from .5 to 3 grams of mercury. I believe CFLs today are down around 3 milligrams. So the ratio is approximately 1:160 to 1:1000.

I broke two of those as a boy. Which is equivalent to 300 to 2000 CFLs.

If we say that I've been using all CFLs for 5 years and 4 quit, and that's their steady rate of burnout, somewhere in 75 to 500 years I will have "released" as much mercury as I did with those two thermometers.

28 posted on 03/08/2011 1:03:56 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: sionnsar
If we say that I've been using all CFLs for 5 years and 4 quit, and that's their steady rate of burnout, somewhere in 75 to 500 years I will have "released" as much mercury as I did with those two thermometers.

Part of the accounting has to do with the amount of electricity saved which results in less coal burned which reduces the coal plant mercury emissions.

29 posted on 03/08/2011 1:09:56 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Jim Robinson

God bless them each and every one. I hate the new bulbs and am hoarding the old ones.


30 posted on 03/08/2011 1:10:33 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
And just what do they think millions of tons of mercury tainted CFL's tossed into landfills are going to do - freshen them up?

You are off by a factor of about one million ...

31 posted on 03/08/2011 1:12:55 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: All

the green police come into our lives,
the green police they invade our homes,
police
police...


32 posted on 03/08/2011 1:31:46 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeeSac
Part of the accounting has to do with the amount of electricity saved which results in less coal burned which reduces the coal plant mercury emissions.

True, but that gets considerably more complicated because I don't track burn time and via that energy savings (OTOH, most of our electricity is from hydros). This was mainly resulting from the "oozing landfill" remark.

33 posted on 03/08/2011 1:59:11 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: jimt
"However, CFLs are more expensive, many contain mercury which can be harmful even in the smallest amounts, and most are manufactured overseas in places like China. In September 2010, the last major GE manufacturing plant for incandescent light bulbs in the U.S. closed in Winchester, Virginia and 200 jobs were lost."

1. MORE EXPENSIVE
2. MORE MERCURY
3. MORE OR LESS NOT MADE IN AMERICA
4. MORE THAN 200 JOBS LOST..

And this AINT a good idea? WTF? Time to Win the Future Now... and

5. More or less...

→ → → → → → → DEEEP EFFIN SIX

            This clown car of an idea.......jeeeeesh

~SAVE THE BULB~


34 posted on 03/08/2011 3:18:38 PM PST by flat
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To: sionnsar

My wife and I have an ongoing fight because she hates the color of the CFL’s. All I care about is that the use less electricity =($).

I knew my mercury facts were not acurate. Those figures were quoted on a talk radio show by someone who was promoting CFL’s. I think they were coparing them to your typical outside house thermometer. I was just trying to point out that the danger/fear was way overblown. The media loves to blow things like this out of proportion.

The problem I see with CFL’s is that they do not function well in cold temperatures.
I have 8’ flourescent lights in my unheated barn with a ballast that works down to 20 F. What do use to replace your outside post lamps ? I am tired of replacing those every 6 months. These lights(2) are on a photo sensative switch. They are on 10-12 hours everyday.


35 posted on 03/09/2011 6:34:57 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: CedarDave

YES! I support this.

At the same time I am hoarding light bulbs.


36 posted on 03/09/2011 6:40:22 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: CedarDave
However, CFLs are more expensive, many contain mercury which can be harmful even in the smallest amounts, and most are manufactured overseas in places like China. In September 2010, the last major GE manufacturing plant for incandescent light bulbs in the U.S. closed in Winchester, Virginia and 200 jobs were lost.

Blah, blah, blah. All these reasons are utterly irrelevant. Are there no GOP types with the courage to say that this is a matter of freedom versus tyranny?

37 posted on 03/09/2011 6:40:27 AM PST by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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To: woodbutcher1963
Try out a bulb with the *lowest* color temperature you can find, and put it in a shaded fixture (so you don't see the bulb itself). It's virtually indistinguishable from incandescent. HOWEVER, it might not be for everyone -- the light still bothers some folks and some report headaches.

Our kitchen has overhead fluorescents. My wife bought some high-temp color lamps for it -- it was horrid, bright and blue. We replaced them with much lower color temp, and the light is decent.

I live in a very mild climate (Seattle area) and we don't have outside lights that are turned on very often, so I can't answer those questions very well. But you might want to check the origin of the lamps you're buying -- I don't have enough personal experience, but others say the Chinese-made lamps don't last as long. (Then again, they're not making them in the US anymore apparently...) A name-brand such as Sylvania or Phillips *might* be better.

38 posted on 03/09/2011 9:52:57 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: sionnsar

I use LED lights for outdoor lights as they work when it is very cold and don;t suffer from “heat/cold” fatigue.


39 posted on 03/09/2011 9:58:10 AM PST by GraceG
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To: woodbutcher1963

We added CFLs to our house 4 years ago...so far 10-12 have failed.
Me not be happy.
If Congress can overcome the inertia needed to repeal this law, next they should get rid of Ethanol...it’s bad from everyones point of view (except for certain farmers).


40 posted on 03/09/2011 10:14:00 AM PST by Imnidiot (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
What do you do with them when they go out? Standard procedure is to place them in a paper bag. The paper bag is then placed on the doorstep of your Congresscritter and lit on fire. Lastly, you are supposed to ring said Congresscritter's doorbell and run like he11.
41 posted on 03/09/2011 10:14:27 AM PST by PENANCE
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To: Sloth
All these reasons are utterly irrelevant. ... this is a matter of freedom versus tyranny _______________________________________________________________ Thank you, Sloth. You read my mind.
42 posted on 03/09/2011 10:20:17 AM PST by PENANCE
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To: CedarDave

While we’re at it, can the Repubs also repeal the ban on real-flush toilets?


43 posted on 03/09/2011 10:33:48 AM PST by eCSMaster (2012 - End of an error)
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To: CedarDave

“Better Use of Light Bulbs Act (BULB)”

Cute.

But I’d support a Constitutional Amendment to prohibit naming legislation with anything other than the originating chamber and/or the principal sponsors, like the Smith/Jones Act, or S-1234.

Democrats always seem to name their bills something like “the peace and prosperity for all act” or “the children’s health improvement act” or some such crap.

Generally, the bills never do what the name implies anyway.


44 posted on 03/09/2011 10:39:55 AM PST by eCSMaster (2012 - End of an error)
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To: CedarDave
introduce legislation to reverse the ban on incandescent light bulbs

Good. The poison, mercury bulbs are terrible to read by. I have to turn on an old light if I want to see anything.
BTW, if Oboma expects me to go out of my way to "properly dispose" of one of those darn things, he'd better think again. Those mercury bulbs weren't my idea. They're going into the trash bag like everything else. Let him worry about the clean up later.

45 posted on 03/09/2011 10:44:49 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: PENANCE
Standard procedure is to place them in a paper bag. The paper bag is then placed on the doorstep of your Congresscritter and lit on fire. Lastly, you are supposed to ring said Congresscritter's doorbell and run like he11.

Sounds good to me.

46 posted on 03/09/2011 10:56:51 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

thats funny cuz when I replaced all my bulbs with CFl’s my electric bill went up about $100.00 per month, went back to the old bulbs and the electric bill went down.


47 posted on 03/09/2011 11:03:30 AM PST by Jessica2677 (S.O.S.)
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To: CedarDave

Next the dems will try to tell us they will tax our debit card usage and we will also get jacked up banking fees.WAIT they are already trying this...


48 posted on 03/09/2011 11:26:12 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: eCSMaster
or 'the children's health improvement act'

Ah, yes. The CH-CH-CHIA.

49 posted on 03/09/2011 12:00:06 PM PST by tnlibertarian (Hey D. C., tax increases are not spending cuts. Nor do tax cuts constitute increased spending.)
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To: CedarDave
...And the current act has driven light bulb manufactures out of the US and to China.

Not all of them, I guess. I was at Walmart last week and found light bulbs for $ .84 for a package of four and they were labeled "Made in USA."

50 posted on 03/09/2011 1:25:08 PM PST by OldPossum
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