Skip to comments.Obama signed secret order authorizing covert U.S. support for rebel forces in Libya: officials
Posted on 03/30/2011 1:08:20 PM PDT by cll
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Either that or he's reaganesque! Tough call ;)
Article III, Section 3.
"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."
We are now supporting the Al Quaeda!!!
“Why are secret orders being revealed?”
Maybe because people with skin on the line know that we’re assisting Al-Qaeda, unwittingly or not.
See post 52.
I didn’t hear that, but there are 2200 Marines on the Kearsarge offshore. Another 2200 on the way.(Should be at Gibralta by now). And 2-3000 Paratroopers in Vincenza Italy. Those A-10s and AC-130s aren’t being sent to fire blindly in support of a bunch of untrained guys in ‘technicals’.
Check out the link on post 15.
Well, that’s true...On the bright side, if we ship the Al Quaeda “rebels” the million Garands from Korea, Obama won’t be able to supply them to Acorn and SEIU for the 2012 election.
They’ll have to use sticks and rebar. ‘Course we’ll only have ten round mags or less...
Thanks — I just spewed coffee all over my monitor.
Quadafi, without consulting his “subjects” states to the world he will kill Libyans that resist him.
Obama, secretly, and underhandedly, does the same thing.
And the difference in these two is.........?
Sorry, wrong link:
jihadi sympathizer in the WH. Go figure that someone with a funny name would get elected president and f up our country.
Here’s another link: (Posted: 1:23 PM Mar 29, 2011)
“Thousands of Marines from Camp Lejeune, Cherry Point and New River are preparing to head to waters off Libya.
Nearly 2,200 Marines and sailors with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit are preparing the ships they will be deploying with during their mission to the Mediterranean Sea. The USS Bataan is currently docked at the Morehead City State Port.
The 22nd MEU will relieve the 26th MEU which has been involved with Libyan air strikes and with the rescue mission of a downed Air Force pilot last week.
Colonel Eric Steidl, commander of the 22nd MEU, would not say if they will have any missions in Libya but the colonel says the 22nd MEU has the ability to perform a wide variety of missions.
The 22nd MEU is deploying three months earlier than originally scheduled because the 26th MEU left North Carolina waters early to help with flood relief efforts in Pakistan. “
If we have been providing close air support the past few days, I would think there would be some coordination with the rebels on the ground. I would assume there was coordination between the rebels on the ground and air support so we are not strafing rebels.This would not be unreasonable.I am not sure but perhaps this is the covert support they are referring to.
Shades of the buildup to Vietnam.
We do not have troops in the Parrots Beak of Cambodia.
The difference is that Quadafi is maintaining order in his own country, while Obama has no business being there.
Okay what will it take for someone to do their damned jobs and start impeachment proceedings?
This better be it.
A sitting US President authorized support for terrorists.
And Maddow will be on tonight saying how great Obama is.
Right now, somewhere along the Libyan coast, there’s a future John Kerry listening to Christmas carols...
What evidence do you have that the Rebels armed are terrorists?
In February, as protests in Libya began, Yusuf al Qaradawi -- an Egyptian preacher in Qatar widely viewed as the Muslim Brotherhood's chief spiritual guide -- issued a fatwa or religious ruling obliging any Libyan soldier who had the opportunity to do so to assassinate the leader.
Al-Amin Bilhaj, a leading figure in the Libyan Muslim Brotherhood and the President of the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB) recently traveled to Benghazi, the headquarters of the rebel movement, according to Hresha.
What evidence do you have that the Rebels armed are terrorists?
Is that a trick question?
I can’t believe how warlike Mr. oBOMBa is!
In none of the pieces you referenced did it say that those being armed were Al Qaeda.
Who is being armed? Don’t give me may or possibly or such.
The main reason such findings have to be secret is...
to keep the American public from finding out that their President lied to them.
then and now....
No. It's time for the "I" word.
Well, here’s some concerning information:
On March 29, six jihadi websites and media companies (Shumoukh Al-Islam, Ansar Al-Mujahideen, Al-Tahaddi, Minbar Al-Ansar, the Al-Yaqin Media Center and the Al-M’asada Media Company) issued a joint call to the Libyan people, which was posted on the site Shumoukh Al-Islam.
Posted at: March 29, 2011
Wait till Daffy’s forces capture one of the agents.
OK, so you don’t believe Libyan rebels are organized by Al Quaida. Got it.
So. Do you then SUPPORT the rebels and Obama’s plan to overthrow Qadaffi?
Has the media spin made all people forgetful?
Of course we have combat troops on the ground, and problay have been for several month, but of course they were barefooted( therefore.. no boots on the ground)
Fox just announced this from alReuters. But then several days ago one of Fox military analysts stated that of course there were already our people there, somebody had to point the laser for the missiles.
"Obama signed secret order authorizing covert U.S. support for rebel forces in
Al Qaeda is so 90’s. Obama incited a new name in his Cairo speech by name, the Muslim Brotherhood. They will rock you to bed every night and care for you like mama and want a mosque built on ground zero. I’ll let you go watch dancing with the stars.
Yup: Like this:
The plan is for millions of Palestinian refugees to march en masse in return to the original homes of their families in Israel. The campaign is being referred to as “The 2011 March of Return,” “The Palestinian Refugees’ Revolution,” “The Advance of the Millions,” and even “The Third Palestinian Intifada.” Some of the Facebook pages stress that the activities are meant to be peaceful and unarmed, while others hint at violence and armed resistance.
Pssst. Joe. If Obama is impeached, guess who gets to play president for a while?
Libya crisis: Gaddafi forces adopt rebel tactics
Ras Lanuf has now changed hands for the fourth time in three weeks. BBC world affairs editor John Simpson in Tripoli has been assessing the fighting.
Colonel Gaddafi’s forces have changed their tactics.
The Libyan army has not always been known for its efficiency or its high morale.
Now though, it has shown a remarkable degree of flexibility, and has chosen to adopt tactics used by the rebels only a few days ago, when they were sweeping along the coastal road, apparently unstoppably, in the direction of Sirte.
The sudden turnaround of fortune is the result of several factors.
The first is that Colonel Gaddafi’s army has decided to follow methods which the rebels have used so successfully.
C.I.A. in Libya Aiding Rebels, U.S. Officials Say
The Central Intelligence Agency has inserted clandestine operatives into Libya to gather intelligence for military airstrikes and make contacts with rebels battling Col. Muammar el-Qaddafis forces, according to American officials.
While President Obama has insisted that no American ground troops join in the Libyan campaign, small groups of C.I.A. operatives have been working in Libya for several weeks and are part of a shadow force of Westerners that the Obama administration hopes can help set back Colonel Qaddafis military, the officials said.
The C.I.A. presence comprises an unknown number of American officers who had worked at the spy agencys station in Tripoli and those who arrived more recently. In addition, current and former British officials said, dozens of British special forces and MI6 intelligence officers are working inside Libya. The British operatives have been directing airstrikes from British Tornado jets and gathering intelligence about the whereabouts of Libyan government tank columns, artillery pieces, and missile installations, the officials said.
By meeting with rebel groups, the Americans hope to fill in gaps in understanding who the leaders are of the groups opposed Colonel Qaddafi, and what their allegiances are, according to United States government officials speaking only on condition of anonymity because the actions of C.I.A. operatives are classified. The C.I.A. has declined to comment.
Libya rebels downplay Al-Qaeda charges
(AFP) 4 hours ago
BENGHAZI, Libya A spokesman for Libyan rebels fighting Moamer Kadhafi’s regime on Wednesday played down allegations by a top NATO commander that there may be Al-Qaeda fighters in their ranks.
“We don’t have this organisation in Libya because their culture is different from ours,” Colonel Ahmed Bani told reporters in the rebel stronghold Benghazi.
“If there are any Libyans who were associated with Al-Qaeda around the world and are now in Libya, they are fighting on behalf of Libya. If,” he emphasised.
He told the same press conference that Wednesday’s chaotic stampede of rebel forces back from a number of villages they had seized in recent days came after they were confronted by a force of thousands of Chadian Republican Guards.
“We found that the best response was a tactical retreat until we can develop a better strategy for confronting this force,” he said, saying it numbered between 3,200 and 3,600 heavily armed troops.
He claimed to have “three sources” for the presence of the foreign troops but did not give further details about where the information came from.
“The dictator and his military and mercenaries will not make it to Benghazi,” he said, referring to forces loyal to Kadhafi, whose 42-year rule is being challenged by the weeks-old insurgency.
On Tuesday, top NATO commander and US Admiral James Stavridis said the alliance was trying to gain a clearer picture of the rebels who had advanced with the help of Western-led coalition air strikes.
“We have seen flickers in the intelligence of potential Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah. We’ve seen different things,” he said, referring to Osama Bin Laden’s global jihadist network and Lebanon’s Shiite Muslim militia.
“At this point, I don’t have detail sufficient to say that there’s a significant Al-Qaeda presence or any other terrorist presence in and among” (rebel forces), Stavridis said.
Al-Qaeda militant Abu Yahya al-Libi, himself a Libyan whose whereabouts are unknown, has urged on the rebellion against Kadhafi, and Al-Qaeda in North Africa has vowed to do everything in its power to help.
Commander of Rebel Forces in Libya
Fought Against US in Afghanistan
Shortly after unrest broke out in eastern Libya in mid-February, reports emerged that an “Islamic Emirate” had been declared in the eastern Libyan town of Darnah and that, furthermore, the alleged head of that Emirate, Abdul-Hakim al-Hasadi, was a former detainee at the American prison camp in Guantánamo. The reports, which originated from Libyan government sources, were largely ignored or dismissed in the Western media.
Now, however, al-Hasadi has admitted in an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore that he fought against American forces in Afghanistan. Al-Hasadi says that he is the person responsible for the defense of Darnah not the town’s “Emir.” In a previous interview with Canada’s Globe and Mail, he claimed to have a force of about 1,000 men and to have commanded rebel units in battles around the town of Bin Jawad.
“I have never been at Guantanamo,” al-Hasadi explained to Il Sole 24 Ore. “I was captured in 2002 in Peshawar in Pakistan, while I was returning from Afghanistan where I fought against the foreign invasion. I was turned over to the Americans, detained for a few months in Islamabad, then turned over to Libya and released from prison in 2008.”
Al-Hasadi’s account is largely confirmed by investigations conducted by Praveen Swami, the diplomatic editor of the British daily The Telegraph. Swami originally wrote about al-Hasadi’s background in the Afghan jihad in a March 21 column. In response to a query from the present author, Swami was able to obtain confirmation of al-Hasadi’s arrest and transfer to Libya from what he describes as a “senior source” in the Afghan government.
According to a separate UK intelligence source contacted by Swami, al-Hasadi was released by the Libyan government as part of a deal that was struck with the al-Qaeda-affiliated Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIGF). The LIGF has long opposed the rule of Muammar al-Gaddafi in Libya...
Al-Hasadi admits not only to fighting against US troops in Afghanistan, but also to recruiting Libyans to fight against American forces in Iraq. As noted in my earlier PJM report here, captured al-Qaeda personnel records show that al-Hasadi’s hometown of Darnah sent more foreign fighters to fight with al-Qaeda in Iraq than any other foreign city or town and “far and away the largest per capita number of fighters.” Al-Hasadi told Il Sole 24 Ore that he personally recruited “around 25” Libyans to fight in Iraq...
The revelations about al-Hasadi’s involvement in the anti-American jihad are particularly troubling in light of clear evidence that Western forces are coordinating their attacks on Libyan government targets with rebel forces.
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Libyan opposition includes a small number of al-Qaeda fighters, U.S. officials say
Rebel forces in Libya that have sought to take advantage of U.S.-backed airstrikes appear to include a small number of fighters with ties to al-Qaeda, American officials said Tuesday.
The disclosure raises a potential complication for the Obama administration and other Western governments that are weighing whether to provide arms and other support to Libyan opposition groups, whose composition in some cases remains unclear.
U.S. officials played down their concern about al-Qaedas presence, saying that its numbers appear negligible and that the terrorist network has had no discernible influence on the groups seeking to oust Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddafi.
We have seen flickers in the intelligence of potential al-Qaeda and Hezbollah fighters among opposition forces, U.S. Adm. James Stavridis, NATOs supreme allied commander for Europe, said in congressional testimony.
But Stavridis stressed that emerging intelligence on the Libyan opposition makes me feel that the leadership that Im seeing are responsible men and women who are struggling against Colonel Gaddafi.
Stavridiss comments marked the first time a senior U.S. official had publicly acknowledged an al-Qaeda presence among rebel forces, although experts have pointed to long-standing ties between the terrorist network and Libyan opposition groups.
Its almost a certitude that at least part of the Libyan opposition includes members of al-Qaeda, said Bruce Riedel, a former senior CIA analyst and adviser to President Obama. Riedel said that anti-Gaddafi elements in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi have had very close associations with al-Qaeda dating back years.
I would hope that we now have a good sense of the opposition in Libya and can say that this is 2 percent, not 20 percent, Riedel said. If we dont, then we are running the risk of helping to bring to power a regime that could be very dangerous.
Gee, doesn't "Q" stand for Quisling anymore?
So, obviously, the ANSWER coalition is organizing a giant, violent protest on the Mall in DC, Ed Asner, Jane Fonda and company are taking out full page ads in the Slimes under “Not In My Name”, Code Pink is chaining themselves to the gates of the White House and throwing blood on members of Congress and the entire Democrat Congressional Caucus is giving non-Stop speeches and interviews about what an outrageous rogue president currently occupies the White House. Right? Right? Huh? I can’t hear you!
One good thing about Obama is, if there are any Americans left who are still capable of rational thought and haven’t decided yet about the nature of the Democrat party, liberalism, progressives, the left, this Libya thing leaves them no doubt that the entire left is so transparently phony, hypocritical and craven, it would make Stalin and Goebbels blush.
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