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Arizona Senate approves 'birther' bill
abc15 ^ | 13 Apr 2011 | Ass Press

Posted on 04/13/2011 1:27:53 PM PDT by for-q-clinton

PHOENIX - The Arizona Senate has approved a revised bill requiring presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens eligible to run for the office.

The bill approved Wednesday gives candidates additional ways to prove they meet the constitutional requirements to be president.

It was prompted by the ongoing claim by some that there is no proof President Barack Obama was born in the United States and is therefore ineligible to be president.

Democrats argued the bill exceeds the state's authority and say state officials are not fully qualified to determine the validity of a candidate's documents.

Republicans argue the U.S. Constitution gives state legislatures the right to determine how federal elections are conducted.

The bill now goes to the House for a final vote.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: for-q-clinton

Has the 9th Circuit invalidated it yet?


41 posted on 04/13/2011 5:00:32 PM PDT by truthkeeper ( Life is a pre-existing condition - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: for-q-clinton

If he blew it off rather than open his documents, it would get alot more press. People would naturally have to ask “why”?

I think this is far more important than some are crediting. It keeps the BC in the public eye. Let the SOB be too stubborn (ie. cowardly) to reveal and automatically be off ballots and try to explain his way out of that.

Racist Wright was right: Dem chickens, dey comin home ta ROOST


42 posted on 04/13/2011 5:10:42 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: fightinJAG

There is a Constitutional birth standard. It’s really quite simple. I’m paraphrasing, but the core of it is this: To be eligible to run for president one must be a native born American (i.e. born of an American father on American soil).

In the days before the deceiving and lying Marxists came along political parties wanting to run a presidential candidate had to sign a document attesting to the person’s eligibility. Also, in the days before the Marxists took over the media, objective reporters did their own fact finding and basically verified a persobn’s presidential eligibiity.

The Marxist demrat party does not subscribe to the US Constitution so Pelosi, as the leader of the Demrat Party at the time, had absolutely no qualms about lying about Onada’s eligibility in that document. And the media, the Demrat Party propaganda organs, simply followed the party line.

If this Constitutional requirement did not exist, do you think The Usurping Marxist Onada would be spending millions of dollars in legal fees to squelch demands to see a credible birth document?


43 posted on 04/13/2011 5:39:38 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: for-q-clinton
So, Freeper legal eagles...riddle me this...
Arizona successfully implements this law.
Obama and the DNC just by-pass Arizona in the general election.
Arizona Democrats sue the DNC for being disenfranchised. From their, lawsuits just start flying.

Could Arizona State Democrats hold up the general election; or, could the Obama Admin and DNC fighting lawsuits hold up the general election over eligibility and Arizona's "right to vote"?

44 posted on 04/13/2011 6:11:10 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: for-q-clinton

This man is such a con I don’t see how he lives with himself.


45 posted on 04/13/2011 6:19:03 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: fightinJAG

Exactly. That situation is not acceptable. It is rule by men, not by laws. It’s opposite everything this nation is supposed to be about.

That’s why we really need to make sure that every state passes a law or ballot initiative specifically granting legal standing to any registered voter to challenge in court the eligibility of any candidate on their ballot. The determination of eligibility should be made transparently by the people who are Constitutionally authorized to interpret what “natural born citizen” actually means.


46 posted on 04/13/2011 6:41:41 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: dools0007world

As I have said previously, can you imagine the reaction if, in 1788, someone argued to Benjamin Franklin et al. that the son of British subject, thus an Englishman by birth, could be President of the United States?


47 posted on 04/13/2011 6:49:15 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: newzjunkey

Nebraska’s is stuck in committee. With the particular people on that committee I’m told it has a snowball’s chance of ever getting out of committee. As far as I know they didn’t even vote on advancing it.

Arizona is gutsy. They’ve basically got nothing to lose at this point, though. The POTUS and his Dept of Injustice wants to offer their state as a living sacrifice to the gods of the drug cartels and Hezbollah, suing to make sure Arizona can’t practice self-defense. For Arizona, getting rid of Obama and his Department of Injustice is literally a matter of survival.

In other states it’s not necessarily like that. Many of them are owned by the federal government. Or they are run by people in key positions who want the media to love them so they can get re-elected and continue to be powerful, and that means they have to do as the media tells them to do.

Given those facts, the best chance in many states is a ballot initiative. Not in Nebraska, because the number of signatures needed to get an initiative on the ballot is a moving target that can only be determined AFTER the signatures are due, and the numbers can ultimately be manipulated by voter registration fraud. But in other states, the people have a fighting chance to get measures in place to prevent the trampling of our Constitution by ineligible candidates.


48 posted on 04/13/2011 6:51:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: for-q-clinton
WTG Arizona! Don't give up trying to get an Eligibility Law passed in your state. State Eligibility Law links:

Contact your State Legislators Pick your state on the left and Legislators on the right and email them!

Contact your State Legislators regarding a 2012 Eligibility Bill FR Link.

60+ Lawmakers 7 States Tell Obama; if you want on 2012 ballot, RELEASE THE RECORDS!

Letter to State Senators and Representatives regarding a New Law on Presidential Eligibility

Please contact them! This may be the key to the 2012 election.

49 posted on 04/13/2011 6:53:10 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: nickcarraway

I was never one to fall for Governor Brewer. I saw her on TV once, and she was incoherent.


50 posted on 04/13/2011 7:02:32 PM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: for-q-clinton

I wonder how long this will take the 9th Circuit Court to declare this requirement “Unconstitutional.”


51 posted on 04/13/2011 8:10:07 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

My bet is that this bill won’t be in effect in AZ in 2012...the courts won’t want to deal with it and will somehow stay the implementation until after 2012 so it prevent 2008-2012 from being a legal fiasco.


52 posted on 04/13/2011 8:16:30 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Red Steel

That will do!


53 posted on 04/14/2011 1:42:40 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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To: Michael Barnes
If IslamoBamma refuses to provide a real BC, let the skanks sue HIM not AZ!

Yeah, I know there are loads of corrupt judge pukes who make up law as they go along, but it would be enough that the issue would destroy the scam IMO, so bring it.

IOW it would have the same effect politically as him skipping AZ.

54 posted on 04/14/2011 6:42:05 AM PDT by Sal (Islamo Bamma is the star, writer, director and producer of AS THE WORLD BURNS.)
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To: Michael Barnes

There is nothing in the law that states he couldn’t be a write in on the ballot.


55 posted on 04/14/2011 8:03:10 AM PDT by sniper63 (Endeavor to persevere, then go to war with 'em.....)
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To: Sprite518

That $2 million claim has been disproven. The $2 million O spent was his *total legal bill* on all elections matters in 2008.

Here’s the link.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-obama-has-spent-2-million-lega/


56 posted on 04/14/2011 1:44:17 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: for-q-clinton

“Democrats argued the bill exceeds the state’s authority and say state officials are not fully qualified to determine the validity of a candidate’s documents.”

OK RATS, WHO IS? What, do we just stand up and say so, and we’re all supposed to believe (pret much that’s their theory on this Constitutional matter.)


57 posted on 04/14/2011 4:01:00 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Tea Party like it's 1773! Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: worst-case scenario

“That $2 million claim has been disproven.”

Perhaps in a strictest sense. But how much has been spent by his private AND goobermint lawyers in this matter - probably much more than $2M. How do you, or Politifact know? Here’s Politifacts: “We interpret the quotations by Trump and Palin to mean payments made by Obama in a personal capacity, not in cases where he’s represented in an official capacity by government lawyers.”

Soooooooooo - how much of OUR money has been spent by Obummer keeping his butt in the WH?

My take, and we may never know, neither you, nor Politifacts - LOTS.

Debunk that.


58 posted on 04/14/2011 4:15:51 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Tea Party like it's 1773! Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: worst-case scenario

One more thought: I think it was a calculated risk - people maybe knew (inluding the Hillary) about O’s troubled past, but they figured once he was catapulted into the WH, he’d have the full force and faith of the US Goobermint to bail him out.

How many millions beyond 2 - is that worth?

And how egregious a violation of Article 2, Section 1 is that?


59 posted on 04/14/2011 4:18:56 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Tea Party like it's 1773! Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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