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In US Army, the beret is out and the cap is back
AFP via Yahoo! News ^ | 6/13/2011

Posted on 06/13/2011 6:19:19 PM PDT by cll

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The US Army is abandoning the beret, after a failed 10-year experiment.

The black beret, which proved deeply unpopular with American soldiers, will be replaced by a patrol cap for everyday wear, US Army spokesman Colonel Tom Collins said Monday.

The move came after outgoing Army chief of staff, General Martin Dempsey, asked the army's sergeant major "to go out and talk to soldiers across the force and see what was on their minds," Collins told AFP.

"One of the things that soldiers consistently brought up was the desire to wear the patrol cap as part of their duty uniform," he said.

The beret will still be part of the Army's dress uniform, but will no longer be worn in the field as soldiers complained that it was impractical, he said.

"It does not have a visor and doesn't shield the sun, doesn't absorb sweat well," Collins said.

One soldier put it more bluntly.

"I hate wearing a wet sock on my head," Chief Warrant Officer Mark Vino, at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, told the Army Times. "Plus it makes head/skin break out."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: army; armyusarmy; beret; berets; china; fashion; raspberryberet; shinseki; shinsekisberets; shinseky; usarmy
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I guess there’s no chance that they’ll bring the c—t cap back. I really liked that cap.


41 posted on 06/13/2011 7:04:56 PM PDT by oldsicilian
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To: cll

This is very good news.

However, we always wear the patrol cap during field exercises (the article seemed to imply otherwise).

I can’t wait to ditch that stupid beret. We’re supposed to all wear the same uniform, but no two berets look alike. I wonder if I could get away with buying the service cap and using that instead of the beret with the Army Service Uniform?


42 posted on 06/13/2011 7:05:47 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

I remember yet another name but that happens when you’re part of the totem pole below ground.


43 posted on 06/13/2011 7:07:44 PM PDT by mcshot ("...of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: tillacum

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44 posted on 06/13/2011 7:08:08 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: Leroy S. Mort
(or flight cap to us zoomies).

This blue suiter knew them by a less flattering name derived from a part of the female anatomy.

(No, not Deloris...)

45 posted on 06/13/2011 7:08:20 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: OL Hickory
same as VN....Commissioned Officer pilots got the medals (Not as often for the WO's they were considered working men too)...enlisted crew members got the...”Damned good shooting Boys!”

I flew a mission with a Headquarters Lt.Col. paper pusher ( he wanted to see what it was like)....Damned if he didn't get a purple heart from a piece of hot brass taking him in the chin...Not bitter...just tellin’ it like it is...Career Officers need PEZ!!....patriots do not..

46 posted on 06/13/2011 7:14:08 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Yo-Yo

When I got to Jump School an instructor asked, well screamed, ‘Why did you go Airborne?’. My reply was so I didn’t have to wear that damn c-cap, Sergeant!

Only time I saw the guy laugh the whole time I was there.


47 posted on 06/13/2011 7:14:50 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: Liberty Valance
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48 posted on 06/13/2011 7:27:56 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: OL Hickory
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49 posted on 06/13/2011 7:35:12 PM PDT by panthermom (Pray for my son in Aghanistan and all the troops!)
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To: cll

The beret’s not being “abandoned.” Who wrote this crap?

And for all you Shinseki naysayers—he also spearheaded Army transformation into the far superior BCT system we have today and he was one of the few who was correct on what it would take to win quickly and decisively in Iraq. He was also fired for it.


50 posted on 06/13/2011 7:36:10 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: oldsicilian
I guess there’s no chance that they’ll bring the c—t cap back. I really liked that cap.

Er, I'm going out on a limb here, but would that be an "overseas cap"? My father was in the old Army Air Corps.

51 posted on 06/13/2011 7:38:13 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: cll
In US Army, the beret is out and the cap is back

YES! Screw you, Hillary!

52 posted on 06/13/2011 7:38:59 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: SamuraiScot

The vulgar anatomical name for the cap was pretty universal among the enlisted lowlifes (of which I was one) during the Korean war days, but my dad went to France in 1918, and his guys called it the “Go to Hell Hat”. Never have found anyone else that remembered the name.


53 posted on 06/13/2011 7:42:05 PM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: 11Bush

LMAO!


54 posted on 06/13/2011 7:42:05 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: mylife

Spent 8 weeks in the Brooklyn Ship Yards in the winter if ‘58-’59. Had to wear the old flathat ( Donald Duck hat). Everybody pissed and moaned trying to find theirs at the bottom of their seabags. But at the end of the 8 weeks when we went back to NORVA, nobody wanted to go back the the friggin’ beanie (dixie cup),


55 posted on 06/13/2011 7:44:54 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Always do a little more than is expected, and someday .....it will be expected.)
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To: oldsicilian
"I guess there’s no chance that they’ll bring the c—t cap back. I really liked that cap."

Nothing personal, but I hated that POS.

56 posted on 06/13/2011 7:45:16 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: mylife

Spent 8 weeks in the Brooklyn Ship Yards in the winter if ‘58-’59. Had to wear the old flathat ( Donald Duck hat). Everybody pissed and moaned trying to find theirs at the bottom of their seabags. But at the end of the 8 weeks when we went back to NORVA, nobody wanted to go back the the friggin’ beanie (dixie cup),


57 posted on 06/13/2011 7:46:07 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Always do a little more than is expected, and someday .....it will be expected.)
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To: ansel12

I believe it was around 74 or 75. I was in the artillery (2/2 Arty, Fort Sill) at the time. We had red berets.


58 posted on 06/13/2011 7:49:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When the going gets tough, the tough check themselves into "rehab".)
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To: 19th LA Inf

“...[M]y dad went to France in 1918, and his guys called it the “Go to Hell Hat”. Never have found anyone else that remembered the name.”

I remember the name. I used to try and get all the first hand recollections I could from WWI vets when young. Great men. Cheerful and fun loving, many of them, even in old age and declining health.

“You might forget the gas and shells, Parley-voo.
You might forget the gas and shells, Parley-voo.
You might forget the groans and yells
But you’ll never forget the mademoiselles,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.

Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Mademoiselle from Armentieres, Parley-voo?
Just blow your nose, and dry your tears,
We’ll all be back in a few short years,
Hinky, dinky, parley-voo.”

God bless our vets, then and now, dead and living, may He bless each and every one.


59 posted on 06/13/2011 7:51:10 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: oldsicilian

That’s the same hat [p*ss cutter] under a different name.


60 posted on 06/13/2011 7:52:38 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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