Posted on 07/13/2011 11:54:56 AM PDT by fantail 1952
.An effort to turn 13 southern California counties into the nation's 51st state took a small step forward Tuesday but remains an extremely long shot, say experts.
Four members of the Riverside County Board of Supervisors agreed Tuesday to allow a fifth member to convene a statewide meeting on the subject in the fall. Each of the four supervisors stated their objections to the secession idea, but went ahead and approved the idea of at least talking about it when Supervisor Jeff Stone said he would personally see to it that private funding, not public money, would be used to hold the meeting.
Since the days of the gold rush, more than 220 campaigns to split California into halves or thirds have been tossed around. Mr. Stone's vision involves persuading 13 counties to secede from the state, which he says raids local coffers to plug budget gaps.
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I’d like to see Morris, Sussex, & Warren counties become part of PA.
Help ! upper Passaic too ! Don’t leave us behind...
Correct, most residents of other states don't realize how conservative most of California really is. A quick look at the counties election map shows it. In the rural part of the state I live in libs have to go under cover and pretend to be conservative to get by.
I really like your guy McClintock. Down here in the south, we keep Issa and Hunter for senators.
“Senators Darrell Issa and Tom McClintock......what a sweet dream.”
By proposed map, yes Issa is SoCal; but McClintock has never been SoCal.
Sorry.
Nixon was SoCal, but not Reagan, by this map.
Yeah, there are a lot of nice places in LA county...I just hate LA county government. You are right.
Well I think this would be a great thing for this country. I as a South Carolinian would like all this state fixing to make the blue states into 3 states. Like NY city should be its own state and make two more states like North New York and South New York. Michigan would be Detroit, North Michigan -the Thumb , and West Michigan.
Wow this could be really fun. We could have 200 states 400 senators and the same number of House or rep. I love it. It would be the new revolution.
As a member of the SBRCC, I can tell you that four of the five county supervisor districts are majority GOP, and the fifth is one of the highest minority area in the state. Strictly LA city (east, San Berdoo city.
Imperial County is in the USAINO. Most of LA County east of the coastal mountains is pretty conservative, too. Make the new state 13 1/2 counties....
This “South California” idea is a really bad idea. Those 13 counties are heavily hispanic, and full of illegal immigrants. The next step will be a secessionist movement to add it to Mexico.
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I would LOOOOOVE to see this happen, but there is NO WAY that it will because the Dems on the national level would lose about 20 electoral votes.....NEVER gonna happen, although I wish it would.
Yeah...wasn’t that DC or Puerto Rico or American Samoa, Guam or some shithole like that Obama had visited on his 57 state tour?
Too late for independence, Mexico has already annexed it, they are just letting us think we own it so we keep sending money.
We just happen to have another FR thread today discussing the same thing.
See this thread and the proposed map:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2747967/posts
Sort of runs the Fault lines. Let the northern and western parts slid off into the Pacific. Wouldn’t have to worry about Granola Land that way. AND..more beach front property will be available.
You old white people. It is your duty to die
Remember when you vote next year that we need someone in the White House who will balance the budget and control illegal immigration. If we make all illegals, legal, then we have lost our country forever. Liberalism will have won and you will have a one party system forever. Redistribution of wealth will be the law. It is called socialism. Our country is heading in the wrong direction and we are doing it to ourselves without serious protest.
ALL AMERICANS SHOULD BE DISTURBED, VERY DISTURBED BY THIS. WHAT A SHAME, THAT NOT ENOUGH AMERICANS HAVE THE BACK BONE TO STAND UP AND SAY “DAMN IT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH”. IT IS TIME WE TOOK OUR COUNTRY BACK!
“You old white people. It is your duty to die.” HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT
Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston ! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.
Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay.”
Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico , “The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.”
Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas ; “We have an aging white America . They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.”
Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187—proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens—was the last gasp of white America in California .”
Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . ... I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”
Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “ California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”
Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California ..”
Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University ; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . “
Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.
THE U.S. VS MEXICO :
On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, “This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession.”
Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It’s called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent. Recently, a vote was taken in the U.S. Congress to end this practice. It was defeated. Every single Democratic senator except Ernest Hollings voted to maintain special privileges for Hispanic, Asian and African immigrants. They were joined by thirteen Republicans. Bill Clinton and Al Gore have repeatedly stated that they believe that massive immigration from countries like Mexico is good. They have also backed special privileges for these immigrants.
Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.
DID YOU KNOW?:
Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so? According to the L.A. Times, Orange County , California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How’s your county doing?
According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia , 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the “greatest criminal challenge the country faces.” Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.
Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. “Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren’t fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references.”
WHEN I WAS YOUNG:
When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island .. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breathe free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges—affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.
Might have become a state in the 1940s, except for Pearl Harbor.
This is the Bush v.s Kerry County map:
And the New State:
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