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On the Nature of the Perry Attacks
http://www.redstate.com ^ | Saturday, August 20th | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/20/2011 4:50:00 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Rick Perry once tried to get out of a speeding ticket.

Rick Perry once owned stock in a chain of video stores competing against Blockbuster, some of which also rented adult movies.

Rick Perry once was a Democrat.

The attacks have come fast and furious against him. But most of the attacks take on a peculiar and very telling strain.

A reporter on television or in print will utter a sentence like this, “Privately many Republican consultants suggest Rick Perry may be too Texas or shoot from the hip too much and might turn off necessary independent voters and women.”

It sounds so serious. As Alex Castellanos said on CNN the other night on John King USA, some fear Rick Perry might have “Mad Cowboy Disease.”

Let me sum this all up for you into what Rick Perry’s biggest problem is.

Whether you are talking about Alex (Team Carole Strayhorn 2006) or Karl Rove (Team Kay Bailey Hutchison 2010) or a host of other national Republican consultants, Rick Perry and his Texas team have beaten a significant portion of them.

But they did not just beat them. In many cases, Team Perry then shut the consultants who opposed him out of future business with him.

So there are scores and scores of Republican consultants who have scores to settle with Rick Perry and his team. And for guys like Karl Rove, if Perry were to win the White House, Karl and a few others would see themselves shut out of White House business for at least four years.

Rick Perry may be the only guy in America to have beaten both Karl Rove and also Obama’s own consultant, David Axelrod.

So there’s a lot of score settling in a lot of the attacks. Next time you hear some Republican consultant say Rick Perry can’t win because he is too much of a cowboy, understand that it is probably a national Republican consultant fearful they will be shut out of work if Perry wins and, more importantly, understand that the same dynamics were in place in 1980 with Reagan’s “boys from California” team of consultants and the national consultants back them said the same about Reagan — he’s too much of a cowboy conservative who will alienate key voting blocks.

That’s not to say Perry is Reagan. It is to say the GOP national consultants have been pulling the same stuff since 1980.


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KEYWORDS: axelrod; castellanos; laraza; madcowboydisease; maldef; openborders; perry; perry2012; perrytards; ricardo; rickperry; rove
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 4:50:06 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Get ready for the left posters. Here comes the steady crock of crap and just bolsters my respect for Perry.


2 posted on 08/20/2011 4:54:15 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Para-Ord.45

Good to know the enemy. Thx for the post.


3 posted on 08/20/2011 4:54:41 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Para-Ord.45

I wouldn’t really say that if someone pointed out that water is wet that they were attacking water.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 4:55:02 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Some of the attacks are stupid, but rest assured EE is firmly in the Perry camp now, so you can expect RS to defend Perry at all costs.


5 posted on 08/20/2011 4:56:23 PM PDT by RefudiateObama2012
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To: Logical me

When Perry is catching as much kook Palin Derangement Syndrome as Palin herself did then you know they feel VERY threatened .


6 posted on 08/20/2011 4:56:27 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

7 posted on 08/20/2011 4:56:53 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Logical me

The more bad but unrefuttably true things I hear about Perry the more excited I am for his candiacy as well!!!!

It’s like when Charlie Sheen says he has tiger blood in his veins!!! That dude is so hardcore an in yer face!!!


8 posted on 08/20/2011 4:57:21 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I love Sarah Palin, but I’m seeing alarming cases of PDS everywhere on FreeRepublic. (Palin Derangement Syndrome) that manifests with foaming at the mouth repeating badly sourced smears about Perry.

I repeat, I would be floored to call Sarah Palin President Palin for 8 years if she wants it and she stays true to her principles.

Flame on dudes and dudettes.


9 posted on 08/20/2011 5:00:04 PM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Uhhh lets see here.

Palin never secretly carried her daughters love child
Palin never said that she could see Russia from her house
Palin never ordered a book burning

Rick Perry did enact a Dream Act for illegal immigrant
Perry did go around the state legislature to impose mandatory STD vaccinations of 6th grade girls
And Perry did impose eminent domain to steal land and help enrich private corporation with toll roads.

Oh yeah the similarities are striking!!!!

10 posted on 08/20/2011 5:01:45 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Tempest

See?


11 posted on 08/20/2011 5:02:50 PM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Para-Ord.45

But of course you know that these are not the nature of the objections to Perry at all, but in fact a strawman specifically concocted to avoid the real issues with Perry - Gardasil, TTC, being pro-illegal, his spotty at best understanding of the Constitution, and the Brazilification of Texas, among others.

Those issues - and not the back-and-forth petty sniping between the old guard - are the ones that should be debated when evaluating the quality of Perry as a potential nominee.


12 posted on 08/20/2011 5:05:02 PM PDT by icanhasbailout (Some people would believe Karl Marx was conservative if he had good hair and ran on the GOP ticket)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Let's stay on the issues. I could care less about Rove, Kay, and that Axel guy. If they an axe to grind against Perry, that's his problem.

The issues? Let's start with...

Immigration

Gardasil

Crony Capitalism

State Debt Ratio - DOUBLES under Perry

NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY

13 posted on 08/20/2011 5:05:26 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: Para-Ord.45

“the Nature of the Perry Attacks”

It’s not nature.

It’s nurture.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 5:05:26 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: listenhillary

what is it about my statement that’s untrue?


15 posted on 08/20/2011 5:06:58 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
The main thing CFR-Rick has going for him is his movie-star hair.

Other than that...

16 posted on 08/20/2011 5:07:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...

nice post...


17 posted on 08/20/2011 5:07:54 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: listenhillary
You mean this?

18 posted on 08/20/2011 5:10:17 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Tempest
You have:

Perry
Derangement
Syndrome

19 posted on 08/20/2011 5:11:27 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Lots of hate for Perry on FR threads lately. My main concern is finding a candidate that can beat BHO!! I like Palin and Perry. But so far only Perry is in the race.
20 posted on 08/20/2011 5:13:46 PM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: Artemis Webb

Viva Perry!


21 posted on 08/20/2011 5:15:18 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Para-Ord.45

Information and education should never be considered the enemy.
http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/


22 posted on 08/20/2011 5:16:05 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Nice circus you got going here. Any other acts besides you clowns?)
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To: Allegra

I wonder if “Perry for President” t-shirts with Perry the Platypus’ picture would sell?


23 posted on 08/20/2011 5:16:30 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Team Perry then shut the consultants who opposed him out of future business with him.

I guess payback's a bitch.

24 posted on 08/20/2011 5:18:03 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until January 21, 2013.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I doubt Karl Rove and the other establishment Repubs are in Palin’s camp either, maybe Rove and the others want Palin to get in the race so Perry and Palin split the conservatives and Romney wins the nomination.
Splitting the conservatives seems to be working especially here on FR.


25 posted on 08/20/2011 5:18:30 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: Para-Ord.45

The lies include crazy things like his own words. Oh the horror of it all.


26 posted on 08/20/2011 5:19:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Para-Ord.45

St. Rick farts rainbows prettier than a nyan cat... he walks on water... his ordure is scent free... :)


27 posted on 08/20/2011 5:20:13 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: GourmetDan
I wonder if “Perry for President” t-shirts with Perry the Platypus’ picture would sell?

Oh, man....I would SO buy one! :-D

28 posted on 08/20/2011 5:23:21 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Artemis Webb
I'd rather have PDS than this.


29 posted on 08/20/2011 5:25:24 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Nice meaningless re-post from earlier threads, can’t you think of anything else to post ?


30 posted on 08/20/2011 5:27:11 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: PMAS

>>>Nice meaningless re-post from earlier threads, can’t you think of anything else to post ?

Just tweaking wazoo apertures to see which ones respond. Thanks. :)


31 posted on 08/20/2011 5:28:42 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Rick Perry's worst bogeyman is HIS OWN RECORD!
32 posted on 08/20/2011 5:30:43 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: famousdayandyear
Here is another enemy Jack Wheeler has identified, and he calls it the gangster government...Wheeler is also a supporter of Rick Perry:

Of course, sound economic fundamentals is the very last thing a gangster government would base its economy on.

If any further confirmation is needed that we are ruled by a true Gangster Government, it was provided by the New York Times report this week (8/17) that Eric Holder's Justice Department is conducting a payback investigation of the Standard & Poor rating agency.

There are three major rating agencies. Only S&P issued a downgrade of US government debt from AAA to AA+. Only S&P is being investigated for "improperly" rating mortgage securities prior to the 2008 meltdown. The other two, Moody's & Fitch, rated those securities the same as S&P, but are not being targeted.

That's because Moody's kept the AAA rating, albeit with a "negative outlook." That qualifier is what triggered the dark hints in the NYT that DOJ "might" extend its investigation to Moody's. Fitch is home free, because the day before the NYT story, it announced (8/16) the US would keep its Triple-A with a "stable outlook."

33 posted on 08/20/2011 5:31:42 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I don’t have a dog in this race yet. But is that your method of disproving the points he brings up? If so, I’d be cautious trowing that derangement syndrome rock in your house.


34 posted on 08/20/2011 5:36:05 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Top 10% of wage earners pay 70% of total income taxes collected. Bottom 50% pay less then 3%, fair?)
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To: Tempest
It's funny, I can't remember how many times anybody that would get on a pro-Palin or Palin defense thread and say anything that was not Praise and Glorification of Her name was met with cries of “PDS” and “Hater”.

You're welcome on this thread Tempest. For myself I welcome Sarah Palin’s imminent announcement of her candidacy. It is past time for her supporters to see the limits of her support and realize that being an “Obnoxious Loudmouth for Palin” is still only equal to one vote.

35 posted on 08/20/2011 5:39:44 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Exactly .. Perry is getting it from the MSM , the Libs , and the Rovian establishment . I think Perry is doing great so far !


36 posted on 08/20/2011 5:40:57 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Rick Perry is the only one who can defeat Romney and Obama)
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To: Tempest

Rick Perry’s worst bogeyman is HIS OWN RECORD!


I guess that could be a real hinderance had he not been elected several times in Texas. Having been elected a few times I suspect the Perry camp will play that info to the other states during their primaries. How it plays will determine his fate.


37 posted on 08/20/2011 5:42:08 PM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: Tempest

“Rick Perry’s worst bogeyman is HIS OWN RECORD!”

Thank you. The problem is people want a true conservative so bad they will listen to anyone who makes the right noises, regardless of substance.


38 posted on 08/20/2011 5:42:13 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: JoSixChip
My suggestion to you is go to ANY pro-Palin thread and read for yourself how ANY criticism, no matter how mild, no matter how non-personal, is met with cries of PDS. I'm just holding up the mirror.
39 posted on 08/20/2011 5:42:21 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: cripplecreek

Anyone can be framed by selective quotes of their own words, or selective citations of their actions or votes without the context of the reason for those actions, this has happened to Michelle Bachmann to Sarah Palin and happened to Fred a lot when he ran, for example, he did not vote guilty to one of the charges against Clinton. Ann Coulter bashed Fred relentlessly for that and it was completely unfair.

With respect to Sarah, the accusation that she quit is both true and false. She did resign but she did not “quit” her job, she had good reasons to leave. She also endorsed McCain, and that looks real bad outside the context that she was likely just being loyal to the man that brought her into the limelight.

Perry is now getting the same treatment. For example, Gardasil....yes he did mandate vaccinations, but there was an opt out and he later admitted the mandate was a mistake.


40 posted on 08/20/2011 5:42:43 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Para-Ord.45


LEAVE RICK PERRY ALONE! LEAVE HIM ALONE! YOU'RE ALL JUST A BUNCH OF HATERS! LEAVE RICK PERRY'S GPA AND GUBERNATORIAL RECORD AND HIS CLOSE TIES TO VICENTE FOX AND RUDY GIULIANI OUT OF IT. RICK PERRY WILL WIN BECAUSE HE HAS THE NICEST HAIR EVER! WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE OUR PRETTY RINO ALONE? [/perrybot mode]
41 posted on 08/20/2011 5:45:30 PM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: Artemis Webb

They are more of what I call foam frothing lunatics. With this sliming, they have a lot in common with the Paulites, and the lefty MSM


42 posted on 08/20/2011 5:45:44 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: PMAS

That’s exactly why Rove now loves Palin ... Rove has a grand design and it isn’t Socially Conservative .

Hopefully Palin understands this and isn’t buying into Rove’s hype ... I would also hope that she endorses Perry again .


43 posted on 08/20/2011 5:47:11 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Rick Perry is the only Conservative who can defeat Romney and Obama)
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To: HerrBlucher
Gov. Rick Perry's Remarks to the Border Summit

The whole speech. Obama couldn't have done it batter.
44 posted on 08/20/2011 5:48:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The author lists the following:

-———————— Mentioned


“open border” zero times

“gardasil” zero times

“PerryCARE” zero times

“sharia” zero times


45 posted on 08/20/2011 5:49:51 PM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: ViLaLuz
The truth is the people want anyone who has an ounce of common sense and who can beat Obama.

For many...that is looking like Perry!

46 posted on 08/20/2011 5:50:19 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: HerrBlucher
Before Perry, I was a Palin supporter. I believe she will one day be president...but not in 2012. She is too weak in terms of experience. Yes, I know she has a great record compared to Obama's complete lack thereof...but the scales are different for Libs and Conservatives. Libs will take anyone who toes the line and Conservatives are particular.

We don't buy the bullsh!t that the Libs love! We are thinkers...and we have logical/rational standards.

That said, Perry is the guy this time. He has a long record and tons of experience. Sarah will make a great Sec of Interior. She's next, but this is not her time.

JMHO!

47 posted on 08/20/2011 6:00:08 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Para-Ord.45; All

i know you are a TRUE conservative American patriot.
you know i’ve read and ADMIRED your posts in the past.

Reagan and Bachmann were also once Democrats.
i haven’t seen ANYONE make an issue of that.
...that’s a straw man argument.

(but, i do care that he campaigned for AL GORE,
and endorses Guiliani, comparing him to Reagan.
that shows poor judgement, as does Gardasil.)

but seriously, is there NOTHING that Perry does or says,
that bothers you the slightest ???

Perry speaking at La Raza or Islamic gatherings?
(CAIR Houston
“The Muslim community has a significant number of political conservatives, and they do support Perry,” said Mustafaa Carroll, executive director of the Council on American Islamic Relations in Houston, “)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2764459/posts?page=4#4

Fethullah Gulen, dubbed “the most dangerous Islamist on planet earth,” builds Islamist schools in Texas, with TAXPAYER money, and it doesn’t bother you ?

Muslims are KILLING our troops in the name of ISLAM,
and C.A.I.R. SUPPORTS Perry, and it doesn’t bother you?

pro-Amnesty for illegals? Texas “DREAM” Act?
someone breaks our law, enters illegally, LIES to join our MILITARY, and Perry wants to reward them ?
TEXAS TAXPAYERS pay 17 BILLION a year for illegals,
and Perry wants to give them amnesty,
and it doesn’t bother you ?

Palin proudly admits she is an evangelical creationist.
Perry DECEIVES a child’s question, to avoid “losing votes”,
because he’s ashamed to show the same courage Palin did.

WHO needs to “man up” and have the courage of their faith?
(besides, an evangelical who PRAISES Islam, and quotes from the Quran, when it specifically denies that Jesus is the son of God? there is NO common ground with Islam !!!)

So WHY do you want Perry so badly?
if another candidate was IDENTICAL in record,
you’d honestly ignore all of this?

again, i KNOW you are a TRUE patriot.

America needs someone to:
1) CUT SPENDING,
2) SECURE THE BORDER,
3) DEFEND US AGAINST ISLAM AND SHARIA.

so WHY the blinders for Perry ?
and why do you attack fellow conservatives,
who have honest questions about someone who is a pro-Amnesty big goverment politician, who C.A.I.R. supported!


48 posted on 08/20/2011 6:00:26 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Shat about the story that all of Newt’s consultants left him and went to work for Rick? Is that not true?


49 posted on 08/20/2011 6:03:06 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: cripplecreek

Again, context. That was August 2001, what has happened since? Well, we don’t know because you have selected a freeze frame out of history and it is out of context. I could freeze frame history to show that Bachmann worked for Carter, but what has happened since? Well, she got the word and changed. This game can be played endlessly.


50 posted on 08/20/2011 6:03:53 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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