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Advice on dealing with child protective services
My brain | 9-11-11 | Bugswol

Posted on 09/11/2011 5:00:12 PM PDT by BUGSWOL

My girlfriend has a friend in Washington State, who is a bit odd, Christian, home school type. While they are not not the normal standard people the government would like us to me, she assures me that they are in fact good people who love their children. The also adopted a couple of children from Ethiopia. One of those children died under strange circumstances, so naturally it was investigated. That is perfectly understandable.

It turns out that the child had some sort of tropical malady that led to rapid weight loss loss, erratic behavior and an untimely death. Now this is where it gets bad. Despite the death being ruled to have been the result of natural causes, their other children have been removed form the home and kept form the parents by child protective services. These children who have been home schooled their entire lives and fed on a diet of healthy natural foods are now in foster homes being fed junk and sent to public schools. The children were tested before enrollment and all of them tested at least 3 grade levels above their chronological age. Sounds like some awful parents doesn't it.

Now they have been told by their court appointed lawyers not to say a word or make waves of any kind even though they are regularly being slandered in the press there.

I am chomping at the bit to post some of the articles here and encourage freepers to let the CPS working in Washington State know what we think, but my girlfriend says no, because they haven't asked. I am of the opinion that if we sit on our hands their kids will just quietly be taken away permanently and they will move on to taking kids away from parents who do other odd things like vote Republican and believe in God.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Washington; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; cps; homeschool; legal; vanity
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To: WestwardHo
HSLDA: Homeschooling Advocates since 1983 They need to contact these people as ASAP! They defend homeschool families, and they are sharp!

HSLDA is great. They helped me and Mrs. MAExile out a few years ago.

However, I think this might be a little outside their experience. They should be able to make a good referral.

21 posted on 09/11/2011 5:35:58 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: momtothree

Does the American Center for Law and Justice in Virginia advise on such cases?


22 posted on 09/11/2011 5:36:32 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: BUGSWOL
She told me what is was, but I can’t remember what exactly. It isn’t something one gets in the USA normally.

Cholera is one that's uncommon in the U.S. but it's not necessarily a "tropical disease". My son got it about 15 years ago while working for Tyson's Foods in Missouri and he came near death from it.

23 posted on 09/11/2011 5:37:33 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: BUGSWOL
my girlfriend says no, because they haven't asked

Maybe she says no because she is really a young man.

24 posted on 09/11/2011 5:41:18 PM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: BUGSWOL

Not enough info here to make any sort of a judgement based on the circumstances. Writing this with minimal facts, just brings idle speculation that does nothing productive. What are the specific contentions that removed the children from the home?


25 posted on 09/11/2011 5:42:52 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: humblegunner

Florida is a long way from Washington State, isn’t it?


26 posted on 09/11/2011 5:45:05 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

No, she didn’t die of hypothermia, the Coroner ruled that out.
But that didn’t make it on the news.


27 posted on 09/11/2011 5:45:23 PM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: WestwardHo

Extra bump for HSLDA. Get them involved right away.


28 posted on 09/11/2011 5:49:13 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: BUGSWOL

According to this article, the coroner ruled that she died of hypothermia.

http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/AUTHORITIES-PROBE-HYPOTHERMIA-DEATH-OF-ADOPTED-GIRL-IN-SKAGIT-COUNTY-731555


29 posted on 09/11/2011 5:55:35 PM PDT by LimberJim
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To: BUGSWOL

CPS in Washington state (King County especially) are the most evil bastards on the planet. Do not try to bargain with them; do not try to be helpful with them - it only strengthens their resolve to screw you. Lawyer up as quality ($$$) as you can, and interview them to make sure that they are conversant and current at dealing with family law.

Good luck!


30 posted on 09/11/2011 5:55:55 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: BUGSWOL
No, she didn’t die of hypothermia, the Coroner ruled that out. But that didn’t make it on the news.

This article suggests that you are incorrect: Coroner: Adopted teen died of hypothermia in backyard

I don't doubt that, in your experience at least, these are decent Christian people. But that does not mean that CPS should not step in where a child is found dead in the cold in her backyard.

31 posted on 09/11/2011 5:58:04 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: vox_freedom

My girlfriend and I both live in Florida. She used to live in Washington States and through the wonders of modern technology they are able to communicate with each other.


32 posted on 09/11/2011 6:00:46 PM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: Graybeard58

I don’t think it was Cholera. I would have recognized that one and remembered it.


33 posted on 09/11/2011 6:02:17 PM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: donna

“Secretly record all conversations.”

No, don’t! In many states that is now a felony, and they would lose the kids for good.


34 posted on 09/11/2011 6:07:13 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: BUGSWOL

rather than answering a question to someone else, why not answer the question I posed to you?


35 posted on 09/11/2011 6:08:42 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

No it is perfectly reasonable that they investigate.

The Coroner later changed his finding, but they had already found a witch and reporting something that might exonerate the witch would deprive the community of a good old fashioned witch burning.

Haven’t you figured out yet, that the MSM has an agenda that doesn’t include the truth in its reporting.


36 posted on 09/11/2011 6:09:04 PM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: BUGSWOL

This was told to you by the people being investigated, yes?


37 posted on 09/11/2011 6:11:08 PM PDT by Domalais
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To: BUGSWOL
court appointed lawyers

There's the problem. (Must be a sign of the liberalism up there if they are appointing lawyers for civil matters. Most places only appoint lawyers for criminal prosecutions).

If you really want to help, send them money for a good attorney. Although I do wonder a bit about someone who could afford multiple international adoptions but can't afford to hire an attorney.

The more I think about it, the more it seems that we are missing 'the rest of the story'.

38 posted on 09/11/2011 6:13:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: vox_freedom

Originally they were trying to charge the parents with manslaughter. When that didn’t pan out they just said the home was unsafe for the children.


39 posted on 09/11/2011 6:13:58 PM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: BUGSWOL
...who is a bit odd, Christian, home school type

Troll much?

40 posted on 09/11/2011 6:15:35 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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