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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #5 - Sep. 12, 2011 8pm/5pm: Tampa, FL (CNN)
2012 Election Central ^ | Sept. 12, 2011 | CNN/Tea Party Express

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: McGavin999
Yeah, too bad I left the GOP in 2006 because of Bush and turned the Dose over to others. Nice try though.

States Rights? What a load of crap! I thought it was the feds job to protect us from illegals? So which is it?

I will continue to spit on any state and any politician that puts illegals before American citizens. You don't like it? Tough.

2,121 posted on 09/13/2011 5:28:53 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: McGavin999

“Those who pretend they support the Constitution and then try to say the 10th amendment doesn’t matter are LIARS.f you don’t support the Constitution then YOU belong in Mexico.”

Well let’s see now, Rick Perry was Ok with same sex marriage and Romney care before he was against them, ala 10th amendment. I find it amusing that you think it’s ok for Texas to charge more for an Arizonan to attend a Texas college or university than an illegal alien who is breaking our laws. Sort of a warped mentality making that a 10th amendment issue. You probably agree with CA and IL gun control laws too because that’s a 10th amendment issue.

Your governor has a better sense of the illegal issue than Rick does and she’s just trying to enforce federal laws already on the books, not evade them. It’s a sad state of affairs when Romney is better on the wetback issue than Perry is.


2,122 posted on 09/13/2011 5:29:03 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: newzjunkey

Oh heck! I didn’t know there was a debate last night. I was out for the evening. Is there a link to a replay today


2,123 posted on 09/13/2011 5:36:53 AM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“..Then I hit your comment, and it just knocked me off-kilter.. instead of voicing thier dissapproval, they feel it necessary to make up some cute, infantile name for the candidate..”

I’m sorry, I should have called him Goodhair like I’ve done in numerous posts in the past. But next time focus on the substance of what I said regarding his performance on the gardasil issue. Also, if that knocked you off kilter, you either don’t participate on here very often, or you are too invested in Rick Perry.

If you follow the threads, you may note that I’ve recently said Perry was my second choice after Palin. I’m having second thoughts about that after his performance last nite on several issues.

Surely, you have seen people taking shots at Palin. Wake up!


2,124 posted on 09/13/2011 5:39:32 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: Yaelle

His admitting that he couldn’t be bought for a measly $5k was maybe a mite too telling.


Stop spinning everything to bash Perry.

His response to Bachmann was meant to be that he was offended by her assertions that he was paid by Merck to try to help prevent HVP by vaccinating kids who were hopefully pre-sexually active. .....As an earlier poster here indicated, Alaska has also recommended the Guardasil.


2,125 posted on 09/13/2011 5:45:18 AM PDT by octex
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To: deks

That kiss was very strange.


2,126 posted on 09/13/2011 5:46:05 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Another Maryland girl for Palin in 2012)
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To: nutmeg

Huntsman is a girly man. In this debate, he looked so much like the kid who worked hard on a snappy comeback and was dying to use it in class in front of the guys who never let him hang out with them.

Paul just seems crazier and crazier. And, no, his most rabid supporters don’t have jobs, but they have fun getting stoned in mom’s basement.


2,127 posted on 09/13/2011 5:50:56 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Another Maryland girl for Palin in 2012)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“OMFG”? Please think about what you typed there. Very offensive to the name of the Lord.


2,128 posted on 09/13/2011 5:53:01 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Another Maryland girl for Palin in 2012)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Actually, I thought Little Wolfie — Dang! He’s as short as Bachman — did a pretty good job, considering his bias.

This was so much better than last week’s debate. Not really ‘gotcha’ questions, IMO. Nice touch, too, with the National Anthem as an opener.


2,129 posted on 09/13/2011 5:57:44 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Another Maryland girl for Palin in 2012)
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To: Bigg Red

I guess that depends on what you place in the “f’ and “g” spots, if I were speaking I would of said freaking gosh


2,130 posted on 09/13/2011 6:00:05 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Rick Perry 2012 !)
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To: secondamendmentkid
MY governor is a McCain RINO and everyone here fell all over her just because she signed something the legislature gave her! And yes, I have no problem with states passing laws. If you don't like it, you move to a state that is more to your liking or you elect people who will reverse those laws.

Simple fact is, Texans decided they wanted this, if they decide they don't want it they'll reverse it.

2,131 posted on 09/13/2011 6:01:22 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: DejaJude
It's pointless to argue with someone, like you, who takes what is said and twists it into an absolute (and a straw man argument) just like every liberal I have ever known.

If you can't hold a fact based discussion, what's the point?

Regardless of your emotional rant, the fact is, we live in a republic, not a democracy and we have "legislative" representatives whom we elect and charge with the task of evaluating and passing our laws. Apparently, that simple concept is beyond your ken.
2,132 posted on 09/13/2011 6:07:32 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: EnglishCon

You may have already been infected by a brain eating amoeba judging by the logic and bad-mouthing of that post. HPV causes warts, finger warts, nose warts, genital warts. HPV rarely causes cancer, nor does anything you posted say otherwise.

Almost all cervical cancer is associated with warts, yes, just as nearly of a few deadly skin cancers initiate at skin warts elsewhere on the body.

Of you get a wart does that mean you are dieing of cancer? NO! Because cancers rarely form from warts, most warts — caused by HPV — are benign.

Does it make you a “shitty” (your word) parent for NOT knowing that? Maybe.


2,133 posted on 09/13/2011 6:11:11 AM PDT by bvw
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To: EnglishCon
Fixing some very sloppy composition in my last post to you:
Almost all cervical cancer is associated with warts, yes, just as a few deadly and rare skin cancers nearly always initiate at skin warts elsewhere on the body.

If you get a wart does that mean you are dieing of cancer? NO! Because cancers rarely form from warts, most warts — caused by HPV — are benign.


2,134 posted on 09/13/2011 6:18:46 AM PDT by bvw
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To: jeltz25

Stop the spinning.

The granting of in-state tuition is only given to the illegals that have attended at least three years of public schooling and graduated from high school. Those people, if eligible to enter a college or university by their grades, STILL have to pay their tuition.


2,135 posted on 09/13/2011 6:20:34 AM PDT by octex
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To: novemberslady

Look the closest one to Ronmey is Perry. Sarah marches to her own drummer. If she does not run...I don’t have a 2nd choice yet. I like Cain & Bachmann but they are both weak politically. I gave a hard time believing we can’t find better conservatives who are not all talk no action.


2,136 posted on 09/13/2011 6:24:54 AM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: CajunConservative

It’s been posted on here (repeatedly) that she won’t make it past Iowa. At this rate she won’t make it TO Iowa.


2,137 posted on 09/13/2011 6:31:14 AM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: Windflier
Twenty years ago Rubio called the office of Ileana ros Lehtinen and asked for work.

Her aides told him "we have no money to hire you". He said, "I will work for free."

The aid said, "in that case come on down!"

The rest as they say, is history.

He presided over the Fla Senate where he made his reputation as a super hard worker and consensus builder while maintaining conservative values.

His fight against Metro charlie Crist is legendary and almost Reaganesque. He knocked a sitting Governor out of the box and is now our proud Senator from Fla.

Being around the guy was awe inspiring for me. We(The Republican Executive Committee for the Keys) introduced him as the future President of the U.S. for his speech and it too was awesome.

That's just a little about Marco.

2,138 posted on 09/13/2011 6:33:38 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: carjic
Look the closest one to Ronmey is Perry.

Well last night Bachmann was a helluva lot closer to romney than I felt comfortable with.
2,139 posted on 09/13/2011 6:39:54 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: rodguy911; All
Did anyone else find Perry's facial expressions odd when he wasn't participating. Example

Gave me the creeps. ATD? His handlers should do something about that.

2,140 posted on 09/13/2011 6:40:08 AM PDT by McGruff (Why settle for second best.)
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