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'Occupy' Movement Purposely Has No Single,Set Demand
U.S.News & World Report ^ | October 19, 2011 | Robert Weissman

Posted on 10/19/2011 12:48:19 PM PDT by mdittmar

The Occupy Wall Street movement is a more profound challenge to the current way of doing business than the Tea Party was or aspired to be.

Although Occupy Wall Street may have an impact on electoral politics, it does not share the partisan trajectory of the Tea Party. It is a more authentic and independent movement, giving voice to the outrage at how Wall Street has crashed our economy and how Wall Street and giant corporations have captured our political process and debased our democracy.

Occupy Wall Street has been criticized for not offering a clear set of demands. In fact, the protesters have been eloquent in rejecting the idea that they produce "one demand," and in articulating in broad terms what they want. More to the point, it's not for a lack of ideas that the country is in crisis. Put the unemployed to work retrofitting energy-inefficient buildings, teaching children, and meeting other unmet needs. Invest in a green energy revolution. Impose a financial speculation tax, and increase taxes on the wealthy and corporations (and make them pay). Put in place a single-payer, Medicare-for-All healthcare system. Undo NAFTA-style corporate trade agreements—and don't enter into any new ones. Force banks to renegotiate mortgage terms, and let foreclosed-upon families stay in their homes as renters. Overturn the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission with a constitutional amendment and re-establish the principle that corporations exist to serve the people, not the other way around.

The country's problem is not the lack of a policy agenda. It's not even winning strong public support for the policy agenda—the public does support these ideas. The problem is translating the popular anger about the nation's state of affairs into a political movement strong enough to overcome the corporate opposition.

If Occupy Wall Street continues to grow, and if it bridges to more and more sectors of society—huge ifs, to be sure—Occupy Wall Street may serve as a spark to that political movement, something far more powerful and transformative than the Tea Party.


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1 posted on 10/19/2011 12:48:22 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

HAHAHAHAHA...just what we need...another old media interpretation of what the movement is about...and how it is so much more profound and intellectual than any that have preceeded it. All spin, all the time.


2 posted on 10/19/2011 12:51:16 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: mdittmar

The best I can tell from looking at them they must be protesting against soap.


3 posted on 10/19/2011 12:51:35 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: mdittmar

OWS is the gift that keeps on giving for the MSM and for Liberals.

Without a decided or realistic focus, it can be whatever THEY say it is and they make up the purpose and significance from one day to the next.

Little children.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 12:51:38 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Edmund Burke)
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To: mdittmar

They can’t say outright what it’s really about (global communism). They don’t want to scare away the vast majority of the participants: young, clueless, ignorant, stupid, gullible, useful idiots.


5 posted on 10/19/2011 12:52:15 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: mdittmar

“...it does not share the partisan trajectory of the Tea Party. It is a more authentic and independent movement...”

This is absurd on its face. Not only is much of OWS astroturf, it is Marxist, which means that it will never be more than an outlier politically.


6 posted on 10/19/2011 12:52:21 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: mdittmar

This piece of writing is a joke, right. The analysis sounds a lot as if it were written by someone who couldn’t make the baseball team, so he is going to write something to prove to everyone that he’s important.


7 posted on 10/19/2011 12:52:43 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: mdittmar
GBTV: A documentary on the "sharpest minds of the day" ...
8 posted on 10/19/2011 12:53:54 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: mdittmar

...since it was meant to give Dumbo cover, just like anything else this administration has done,....FAILURE!


9 posted on 10/19/2011 12:54:37 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SueRae
What do we want?
We don't know!
When do we want it?
Now!
10 posted on 10/19/2011 12:54:40 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: mdittmar

You forgot the barf alert, though I suppose “US News and World Reports” was fair warning.


11 posted on 10/19/2011 12:55:04 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: mdittmar

A fairtale spun by a mind guard to keep the groupthinkers from reconsidering their assumptions. Nothing more.


12 posted on 10/19/2011 12:56:06 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: mdittmar

Eloquent? Right...

13 posted on 10/19/2011 12:56:43 PM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: mdittmar
Robert Weissman is president of Public Citizen where he is an expert on economic, health care, trade and globalization, intellectual property and regulatory policy, and issues related to financial accountability and corporate responsibility.

In other words, he has trouble changing a light bulb.

14 posted on 10/19/2011 12:58:22 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: mdittmar

“What do we want?
We don’t know!
When do we want it?
Now!”

Correction:

“What do we want?”
We don’t know!
When do we want it?
We don’t know!”


15 posted on 10/19/2011 12:59:05 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: mdittmar

It isn’t difficult to drag up a hodgepodge of malcontents from the wasteland of liberalism. There is always a supply of rabble ready to be a noisy nuisance.


16 posted on 10/19/2011 12:59:21 PM PDT by pallis
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Bonus heave: “Although Occupy Wall Street may have an impact on electoral politics, it does not share the partisan trajectory of the Tea Party. It is a more authentic and independent movement”


17 posted on 10/19/2011 1:00:02 PM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: mdittmar

When there’s a fuzzy side to incoherence US News & World Report is there to deliver it.


18 posted on 10/19/2011 1:00:48 PM PDT by februus
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To: mdittmar

19 posted on 10/19/2011 1:01:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mdittmar
What a load of crap!

It is a more authentic and independent movement {than the Tea Party} - What's more authentic and independent than the Tea Party? And what grass roots movement has more members??? The Occupiers are wannabe's!

The problem is translating the popular anger about the nation's state of affairs into a political movement strong enough to overcome the corporate opposition. I'm not a corporation and I oppose them! And, it doesn't say anything about their Democratic, White House and union thug support!!

Another example of trying to put lipstick on a pig to make it look and smell better.

20 posted on 10/19/2011 1:01:47 PM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: pallis

There is a mindless sameness to all of this. It was the same in the 60’s and 70’s.

Idleness and ignorance are exploited by unprincipled politicians to propel their own agendas...pathetic.


21 posted on 10/19/2011 1:06:57 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Edmund Burke)
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To: mdittmar
corporations exist to serve the people

Where do these morons get this nonsense?

22 posted on 10/19/2011 1:08:31 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Well, if by “the people” they are referring to the shareholders, they might be accidentally right.


23 posted on 10/19/2011 1:09:57 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Hammerhead

It’s the “Gimme Cuz I Want It” movement.


24 posted on 10/19/2011 1:10:27 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: mdittmar; mickie; flaglady47
Second paragraph....."how WALL STREET has crashed our economy....."

Anything written after that is only more twisted cant filled with monotonous platitudes written by an undead zombie recently escaped from the Island of Dr. Moreau.

Leni

25 posted on 10/19/2011 1:22:35 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: mdittmar
It's crystallizing. One goal is to create a rival government - note the announcement about the July 4 Convention in Philadelphia.

The 99 Percent Declaration

26 posted on 10/19/2011 1:28:22 PM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: mdittmar

maybe they just can’t remember their demands when they wake up in the morning


27 posted on 10/19/2011 1:32:19 PM PDT by molson209
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To: mdittmar
Who is this loon?

About Robert Weissman: Robert Weissman is president of Public Citizen where he is an expert on economic, health care, trade and globalization, intellectual property and regulatory policy, and issues related to financial accountability and corporate responsibility.

Oh, yeah. Sure.

28 posted on 10/19/2011 1:36:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Cicero

The board of directors:

http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=4676

Seems to be a bunch of leftist loons and litigating class action lawyers.

And the front page mentioned that Bill Moyers is a regular.


29 posted on 10/19/2011 1:37:41 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: mdittmar
A Commie by any other name is still a Commie. I'd love to hear the conversation at one of the planning meetings. Commie one: So comrades we must demand that all the rich give up there ill gotten gains for the good of the Common Man. Commie Two: That all fine and welcome comrade, but we elites still get to keep ours, right? Commie One: Hey were commies not idiots! (while writing down Commie two's name for later reeducation training.)
30 posted on 10/19/2011 1:38:09 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: mdittmar
Occupy Wall Street couldn't be more different from the Tea Party.

Occupy Wall Street is a tiny group of maybe a few thousand spoiled brats, leftists, professional operatives and drugged up street people. They don't know what they are protesting or what they want. They are just Democrats and Obama voters who drank the Koolaid and now all that “hope and change” has left them with no opportunity and no future other than taking handouts from the productive members of society.

So they want to whine about it and use violence and intimidation to try to force the politicians to take money from the honest and productive people to support their leisured lifestyle.

The Tea Party represents millions of honest, hard working patriotic Americans who understand the Obama Administration is destroying America. All they want is to prevent our great country from being destroyed.

31 posted on 10/19/2011 1:39:08 PM PDT by detective
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To: mdittmar

It’s a blank slate onto which you can transfer whatever your desires and aspirations are, and shape it into whatever you want to be.

Sort of like the Obama 2008 Campaign.

Wait a minute...


32 posted on 10/19/2011 1:45:20 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mdittmar

Robert, what I can gather from reading your article is you are nothing but a socialist democratic jerk. Try doing your home work. This OCCUPIED OUTHOUSE aka PEE PARTY bowle movement is nothing but a failed attempt to try and match the political power of the TEA PARTY who are kicking the socialist’s rear end. This bowle movement was conceived by the brain trustsof the communist and democrat parties in hopes of reviving the failed obama administrations socialist agenda. It will fail miserable along with the socialist democrats in 2012.


33 posted on 10/19/2011 1:46:16 PM PDT by spawn44
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To: mdittmar
If Occupy Wall Street continues to grow, and if it bridges to more and more sectors of society—huge ifs, to be sure...

Yeah (yawn) it's unstoppable, it's a tidal wave picking up steam like an avalanche, yeah, yeah...

...Occupy Wall Street may serve as a spark to that political movement, something far more powerful and transformative than the Tea Party...

Not much doubt now that what we've been saying for the last month is true: this thing is laughably contrived and breathlessly reported by people whose sole object is to marginalize a legitimate populist movement by publicizing a phony one. It doesn't look as if it's working but you can bet we'll be told that it is, all the way to November 2012.

One has to gaze in open-mouthed wonder at the degree to which this cheerleading is dissociated from the real world. The OWS people have, states the author, "resisted" some fictional demand to settle on a single objective. It is not, as the author implies, a virtue; what we hear is, in fact, an incoherent torrent of mindless platitudes, ill-formed accusations, and heady abstractions to which no coherent program ever could be attached. Precisely how much "transformation" the author expects from a movement with no objectives is a marvel of modern political doublethink. Nothing will be transformed, but an old game might be repackaged.

That is also a fair working description of the 0bama campaign of 2008 and the one to come in 2012. Make no mistake about it: this is 0bama's campaign for re-election taking shape and it is as inchoate, disorganized, self-contradictory, and incompetent as his administration has been.

34 posted on 10/19/2011 1:59:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mdittmar
Another communist weighs in. I'm soooooooooooooo impressed.

Not.

35 posted on 10/19/2011 2:11:32 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Billthedrill
populist Constitutional movement
36 posted on 10/19/2011 2:23:10 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: mdittmar
If Occupy Wall Street continues to grow, and if it bridges to more and more sectors of society—huge ifs, to be sure—Occupy Wall Street may serve as a spark to that political movement, something far more powerful and transformative than the Tea Party.

USN&WR shouldn't let their columnists write while under the influence of mind altering substances.

37 posted on 10/19/2011 2:31:31 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: wideawake
Regarding “corporations exist to serve the people”.

Corporations exist to make a profit for their shareholders by providing a product that PEOPLE WANT TO BUY.

If someone is happy to trade money for that product they have been provided a service.

If the corporation derives a profit from selling that profit, the customer has provided a service.

This is the nature of capitalism, a mutually agreed upon mutually beneficial arrangement or trade.

These morons think the only way to make a million dollars is to rob a million people.

History has shown the best way to make a million dollars is to make a product that millions of people want.

38 posted on 10/19/2011 2:40:10 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: mdittmar

OWS has a few hundred professional protesters hanging around, objecting to city insistence on cleaning the space.

Tea Party had a half-million regular folks show up at once with little planning, and left the place spotless.

The former’s demands are little more than the latter pay the former’s way.
The latter’s demands are little more than the former pay its own way.

No comparison beyond “yin, meet yang”.


39 posted on 10/19/2011 3:09:12 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: mdittmar

The original Greek protests, which the OWS movement is attempting to copy, is much more focused. BTW - The Greek government just ignored the protesters and voted for an austerity package.


40 posted on 10/19/2011 6:10:00 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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