Ohio Voters Choose To Opt Out Of Health Mandate (Reject Obamacare)

OhioVotes2011/AP ^ | November 8, 2011 | Staff

[50mm]

Voters in Ohio have approved a ballot measure intended to keep government from requiring Ohioans to participate in any health care system.

The constitutional amendment passed is largely symbolic, coming in response to the 2009 federal health care overhaul, a provision of which mandates that most Americans purchase health care.

[hinckley buzzard]

The issue 3 on obamacare is purely symbolic. It will have no legal weight or meaning. It is no more than an opinion poll, and I don't know why the state bothered.

[boop]

Let it be so. Bring up each part of the original bill separately, and then inform the public that it takes 14 taxpayers to support ONE retired cop. Who mysteriously develops “Chief’s disease” a year before retirement. At 53.

[50mm]

The only obvious alternative now is massive layoffs of the same insects...

I'm looking forward to that.

[hinckley buzzard]

No taxes on the ballot today, except some local and county levies.

[hinckley buzzard]

As for the unions, let them gloat. Reality will begin to set in shortly in the form of layoff notices. There's no money to give them what they want.

As an example of their tactics, they ran ads comparing the SB-5(Issue 2) to Rite Aid denying health insurance to grannies working in their stores. Completely false. Nice to know that the police of Ohio are some of the most dishonest citizens that we have, maybe more crooked than the criminals.

[PaleoBob]

Great, now they can live in a bankrupt state but at least they won’t have Obammycare. Something about this entire vote makes NO sense to me.

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Ohio failed to separate cops and fire from the others as Wisconsin did. With cops and fire in the deal, the unions were able to run emotionally-charged ads about life without cops and fire and how everyone will die without them. “So, ya know, you better vote union blah blah blah.”

[hinckley buzzard]

I don't think those details made any difference at all. This vote was about one thing--union "rights" to collective bargaining for every little benefit and work rule, guaranteeing that they would be able to continue to loot the treasury. That was the one and only issue in Issue 2.

The minutiae you mention may have attracted the attention of a few retirees with lots of time on their hands, but nobody else even noticed.

[hinckley buzzard]

Let's hope so. Otherwise there will be a large number of very nasty laid off goobermint employees screeching in the streets.

What most people did not get is that voting AGAINST issue 2 was voting FOR layoffs. The cops and teachers and smokeaters didn't tell people the truth. Now they will just try to hold up the state for more tax revenues.

[DestroyLiberalism]

hinckley buzzard wrote:

“The issue 3 on obamacare is purely symbolic. It will have no legal weight or meaning. It is no more than an opinion poll, and I don’t know why the state bothered.”

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I disagree. Don’t think for one second that the U.S. Supreme Court isn’t going to take Ohio voters’ OVERWHELMING rejection of the individual mandate into consideration when the court hears the case next spring.

In my opinion, this further reinforces Obama’s negative approval rating in Ohio and therefore he would likely lose that state if the presidential election were held today.

[fkabuckeyesrule]

Former Ohio Gov. Strickland was on the Greta Show on FNC and he said he was really proud of Ohio rejecting issue 2. Greta asks him if he was also proud of Obamacare being voted down. He decided to dodge the question by saying that issue wasn’t really debated or discussed much. He was not asked if he was proud of the 2010 ohio governor results when Strickland lost. I know I was proud. The spin by Strickland was pretty laughable.

[xzins]

Totally disagree that this was a clean bill. This bill wasn’t about the need. This vote was not about government employees paying more toward their pensions. It was about everything except that. It was about the weeds. It was about firefighter hires, and hours, and methods. It was about teacher seniority and evaluations and supervision.

This was an easy bill for Ohioans to reject. The Republican house and senate were derelict in allowing a new governor to be injured the way Kasich has been.

[Graewoulf]

” - - - a provision of which mandates that most Americans purchase - - - .”

The British tried that on us before - - - .

It is time to again break out the flag of that day: “DON’T TREAD ON ME.”

[Hildy]

I say good for Kasich. I am sick of firefighters and cops, Sorry..I don’t like being a hostage to anyone and that’s what these two groups keep doing to us.

[50mm]

I flew my Gadsden at my house today and was wearing a Gadsden lapel pin on when I voted. I got some dirty looks from ‘rat types at my polling location.

[Crucial]

And I thought American voters were just mere cattle waiting to be slaughtered by their Democrat overlords. I guess they’re cattle with just a little bit of forsight.

[cherry]

I won’t be kind...most of them didn’t understand the ballot issues...either that or they’re all a bunch of bipolar nutjobs..

[RockinRight]

I can’t fathom why they thought doing SB5 this way would work.

[chiller]

Thanks for succintly explaining the why and wherefore. We out-of-staters aren’t aware of the skinny.

I”m told the bill will be reintroduced once split into sensible parts.

[Graewoulf]

” - - - Gadsden lapel pin - - - “

Good for you! Now I want to get a lapel pin and cuff links too! Christmas is coming!

[keats5]

Yeah their adds were like,

“Nice house and family ya got there.
Would be a shame if somethin’ would happen to them.”