Skip to comments.A word about Romney
Posted on 11/12/2011 1:29:02 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Three words: liberal progressive RINO.
Add a fourth, fifth, sixth, etc: unprincipled, untrustworthy, flip-flopper, aisle-crossing, fraud, liar, political whore.
And a few more: abortionist, gay rights panderer, gun-grabber, global warming advocate, big government mandate lover, socialist healthcare pusher, constitution trampling, liberal judge appointing, TARP loving, bailout loving, stimulus pushing Keynesian statist.
That my friends, is no definition of conservative or of conservatism. Not even close. In fact it's the exact opposite.
Free Republic is and will remain an exclusive pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-capitalism, pro-defense, pro-borders, grassroots patriotic conservative site, regardless of party politics.
I support the Republican party as long as it promotes positions and candidates that I can agree with. The current party platform is a pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-capitalism, pro-defense, pro-borders, patriotic, traditional conservative platform. When they formally (or informally) start knocking out or ignoring traditional conservative foundational planks so they can run liberal progressive RINOS then they have lost me. It won't be that I've left the Republican party, the Republican party will have left me.
Some people say FR is a cult. Well, I don't know about that, but I'll be damned if we're going to change our core principles and values so that we can support a man who has spent a political lifetime trying to run to the left of Ted Kennedy.
Every one of his leftist positions listed above are documented on the video linked below, which is a compilation of about a dozen debates and other Romney appearances where he vehemently advocates and defends his leftist positions and ideals:
Romney in his on words
Watch it all the way through. If he becomes the Republican nominee, I can guarantee you you will see these clips and more like them, over and over again on national TV. Romney is totally untrustworthy. And it's all documented in living color.
Yeah, I know. He's changed. He's now a life-long hunter who's always been pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small government. And "most of his positions, all of them actually, have always been conservative." Just ask him. And that's the point. He's changed his mind, or at least, he's changed his political platform. And he'll change his mind again tomorrow. He'll continue changing his mind to match the current political winds. That's what unprincipled, untrustworthy, lying political whores do. It's in the nature of the beast.
I believe a Republican Obama is more damaging to the nation than a Democrat Obama.
“Romney is a second-rate Democrat.”
Exactly. Why go with this yo-yo when you can have the real thing?
“The Forum is more conservative than the electorate. We could very well be disappointed with the outcome.”
C’est la vie. We were disappointed in 2008 as well.
“Does this mean a second Obama term?”
I’ve been saying for some time that there is a very good chance of obama being re-elected. Never underestimate the ability of the Vichy gop to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Mitt Romney supports homo activists in their war against the Boy Scouts.
Starting during the Clinton Administration (does the name Roberta Achtenberg ring a bell?) the Boy Scouts came under relentless fire by the Democrats and their newsrooms for rejecting the idea that they, the Boy Scouts of America, should welcome homosexual scout leaders into the organization and let them take little boys off into the woods. Boy Scouts leaders didn’t think this was such a good idea. Naturally, Massachusetts Mittens sided with the homo activists.
Below are a couple of columns from 10 and 12 years ago about the Boy Scouts being turned away by Mitt Romney and the Olympics Committee for volunteer work on the Salt Lake Olympics. The Boy Scouts had been very active and high profile at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics and were looking forward to participating once again. But the Boy Scouts had just won an important Supreme Court case (in June 2000 the Supreme Court ruled that the BSA was a private organization that could choose whoever they wanted as scout leaders and could therefore reject sodomites) and the Democrats/homos were still mighty ticked off about it. Massachusetts Mittens could always be counted on to pander to homo activists, of course, so he gladly came up with a lame lie of an excuse for turning the Boy Scouts away from the Salt Lake Olympics. The Boy Scouts’ disappointment was palpable, and Mitt Romney never returned their calls.
“Even though I am for Newt, I will gladly vote for Romney if nominated.”
I suggest you work very, very hard for a candidate other than mittens to be nominated. Because without the conservative base, the gop candidate loses. I’m not naive enough to think that all conservatives will sit this one out, but enough will go out of their way to find something else to do on election day to tip the election.
The argument that “we have to vote for the gop candidate or life as we know it will no longer continue” no longer holds as much sway as it once did.
“My quadrennial note: FR will come about to support the Republican candidate.”
If it’s mittens, I find that doubtful. Too many FReepers have developed a severe allergic reaction to rino.
There is no difference between Romney and Obama. None, Zero, Zilch, Nada.
But they HUNT with those in Europe!
“Romney would easily be the most liberal Republican president since Nixon, and his nomination would be the end of the Republican party.”
You’re right, and that part leaves me conflicted. IF the gop nominates mittens, they go the way of the dodo bird. I’d really like to see that happen, but on the other hand I realllllly want to see them nominate an actual conservative who might even defeat obama also.
I care more about the country than I dislike the gop, so I’m still holding out some hope that they’ll nominate a conservative.
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Well, I will hold on to your optimism to help keep my sanity. Thank you.
You're welcome, Nan.
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I really dont think the republican party heard us or the tea party, they took the momentum the tea party gave them and squandered it, now for their so called election there isnt a worthy one on the stage except for Paul or Johnson. I guess we need another 4 years of obama, the GOP snatching defeat from the jaws victory.
i wouldnt trust anyone that WANTED to be Mccain’s vp .her standing wouldve been higher in my eyes to have her turn it down, quite frankly I dont know why she didnt, she had nothing in common with that old coot.
For those who understand, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, no explanation is possible.
Some people say FR is a cult.Whoever says that doesn't know the meaning of the word "cult".
A privately run conservative forum has a right to prevent leftist/RINO propaganda from displaying on its pages.
And exercising that right doesn't make it a "cult", just like me not opening my home to a Mormon missionary doesn't make me a "bigot".
--MormonDude(It's when you tell OTHERS not to; THAT makes you a bigot - and a HATEFUL one at that!!)
so you wanted her to carry president mccains water....yeah that would improve her standing...got it.
"WE", IMHO, implies a monolithic Republican electorate. That is simply not the case and is the reason I expressed my concern.
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In February 2008, the most influential and persuasive jaw bone media personality threw his all-important support to Romneys then struggling candidacy. I think now, based on the way the campaign has shaken out, that there probably is a candidate on our side who does embody all three legs of the conservative stool, and thats Romney, Rush Limbaugh told his huge audience. The three legs of the stool are national security/foreign policy, the social conservatives, and the fiscal conservatives.
After Rush highlighted the de facto endorsement in his newsletter under the headline One Candidate Now Represents All Three Legs of Conservatism, the rest of syndicated talk radioSean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Glenn Becklargely followed suit. Laura Ingraham introduced Romney at CPAC as a true conservative and a conservatives conservative. (Alone among the top-rated national hosts, I openly dissented and proudly endorsed McCain.) Even Jim DeMint, the most conservative member of the U.S. Senate, fell in line behind the Mittster. Is it any wonder conservatives have electoral whiplash. And why is it not true now?
Mitt Romney is not now and has ever been a conservative. He’s a flat out liar.
And anyone who says Romney is a conservative has his head up his arse:
I agree and my point exactly. So all those jaw boners are head up their arsers.
Although I am a harsh critic of Mormonism, I would not vote for Mitt Romney if he were an evangelical Christian. It’s his political views which disqualify him.
But it's also one of the most instructive.
Same here. I wouldn’t vote for him even if claimed to be a lifelong Christian.
A man who who would say and do these evil things obviously does not believe in the same Judeo-Christian God and bible that I know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU
Jim, you certainly have all your ducks in a row. Your clarity is very much appreciated and, in this case especially, agreed with.
A word? hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Count me in I’m with you.
Romney IS Obama - just paler. NO MITT EVER!!
While I do not specially like Romney, saying four more years of Obama would be tolerable is definitely cutting off your nose to spite your face. NOTHING could be worse than the IRREPERABLE damage four more years of Islamic Obama would inflict on our nation, spiritually, emotionally, culturally, globally, financially and from an ideological viewpoint.
In weighing “anyone but Obama” against “anyone but Romney”, I submit that I would not support keeping Obama. Not even if I held my nose. Any Republican, is better than Obozo, though as defined here you would need a gas mask for a Romney presidency.
My #1 reason for not supporting Mitt Romney is a very lefty friend who ‘could live with him’ as President. I presume that’s the same reason the press is ignoring him, too. If Obama doesn’t win re-election, they figure they will hardly notice the difference.
Definitely not, because it was not just four years I was talking about, but rather looking long term there-after.
Four years of Obama and then another chance of getting a Conservative President.
Four or possibly 8 years of Romney and then getting another Liberal Democrat ( the only ones the Democrats promote ie: Clinton, Gore, Pelosi, Reid, Obama) for another 4 or 8 years.
The point of my post was to give a heads-up to Jim Robinson that if Romney gains the nomination and FR is not supporting Romney, then it will be said by some FR is in a way supporting four more years of Obama.
It is bad enough that the Democrats only give as Liberals for leadership. That problem is made exponentially worse by Republican RINO's pretending to be Conservatives so they can get elected.
To take the long view requires a certain degree of steady nerves and power of reasoning.
If I use any of the words that describe Romney here, I’ll get banned!
Oops, given recent events I’d better clarify that post. I mean that all the words describing Romney are profane, vulgar, etc., and if I use them I’ll get banned for bad language! ;-)
How the hell do you go about "sabotaging" a ticket that already has Juan "Lettuce" McCain at the top???
I disagree. The public is not "generally" uninformed. They are Specifically, Totally, and Abysmally uninformed, mentally unformed, and despite "universal literacy," dumbed-down and ignorant of our own history and of their rights and obligations as citizens.
"Basically conservative" probably means that as long as their TV works, the trailer isn't too hot or too cold, and McDonald's is open they will vote, (i.e., if they bother to vote) for whomsoever promises to keep things that way.
The abolition of poll taxes, property requirements, literacy requirements, and now even citizenship requirements in many jurisdictions means we increasingly live under the tyranny of the ignorant and illegal. All "democracies" wind down from that moment when the elected discover they can stay in power by writing checks to their friends and supporters on the public treasury. The "democracy" lasts until the treasury is empty and the supporters of one party or faction take up arms to take away the goods and treasure of another party.
That point is getting closer.
"Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity.
In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society." Antonio Gramsci - Marxist - teacher of Saul Alinsky, teacher of Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton
Thanks for all you do!
The Marxist ideology for which our POTUS is an admirable poster-child, has taken a giant leap in impoverishing the nation on its way to the civil strife, from which they hope to emerge victorious, if not the first time, the second or third.
For the Left, Class Warfare starts as a rhetorical device, but as history might show, it always ends in real war.
You totally missed my point.
Forced to agree.
That is how the "middle-of-the-road" has ended up in the left ditch after the last three decades. Each time the "conservative" who isn't, quite, is nominated, they redefine what "conservative" is in the public arena.
Each time, that also redefines those of us who have not changed our stance on any of the issues as being a little more "extreme" and a 'little farther to the right'.
How else could people who once were considered the backbone of America, gun owners, bible readers, and familliar with the US Constitution be branded as "extremists" and 'potential domestic terrorists'?
Hate to spoil your party but Romney appoints liberal judges.