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Lawmaker: Iran's Revolutionary Guard Practicing for An EMP Attack on the United States
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | 12 hours ago | By David Pugliese

Posted on 11/13/2011 10:13:55 AM PST by drewh

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To: Secret Agent Man

Heaven help most city dwellers once the Eat Better Today (EBT) cards stop working.


41 posted on 11/13/2011 12:57:05 PM PST by rbg81
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To: neutronsgalore

EMP ping


42 posted on 11/13/2011 12:57:48 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (Pat Buchanan, kryptonite to RINO's)
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To: upchuck
People that don't take EMPs seriously don't know enough about them. And people who don't know enough about EMPs (that's at least 75% of the population) should read this very believable fiction book, "One Second After." You'll think twice the next time you go to the grocery store.

Forward by none other than Newt Gingrich. The afterward is even more frightening. It should be a "must read" by anyone and everyone.
43 posted on 11/13/2011 12:58:23 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: Durus

You are correct. My fiancee’s nephew works in high level consulting position for the Army and NASA. He told us their number one fear is an EMP. They are terrified of it.


44 posted on 11/13/2011 1:25:22 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GAB-1955; drewh
See comment #40. Also, notice the dates for the following.

Iran readies launch of new satellite
(Iran's second satellite launch, 11/09/2009
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382720/posts

Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA
09/08/01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/519198/posts

Iran military engineers on hand for N. Korea missile launch
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1664760/posts
(7/12/06)

10 Iranian Missile Engineers Visited N. Korea:Sankei reports(check on NK’s Chinese equipments)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658850/posts
(07/01/06)

S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts
(4,000 kilometer range—will reach the Vatican—May 16th, 2007)

US confirms Iran launch of first home-built satellite
afp ^ | 2-03-09 | staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2177582/posts

Iran Satellite Launch Heightens Missile Development Concerns

By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Feb. 3, 2009
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=52939

Iran hails successful launch of satellite rocket
Posted on Wed 03 Feb 2010 02:51:50 AM MST
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2443266/posts

45 posted on 11/13/2011 1:27:31 PM PST by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: drewh
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/1984/ERD.htm
EMP
Submitted To
Mr. Wiggins
In Partial Fulfillment of Requirements
for Written Communications
The Marine Corps Command and Staff College
Quantico, Virginia
Major R. D. Erick
United States Marine Corps
April 6, 1984

Excerpt:
“However, the effects produced by a nuclear explosion were not fully realized until the “Johnston Island Test” in 1962. This nuclear blast had a yield of 1.4 megatons at an altitude of 250 miles. The explosion damaged a number of low earth orbit satellites and caused malfunctions and early failure of others. Another effect that was noted during the blast was a blackout up to 600 miles away of high frequency radio communications that lasted for hours. It was caused by disruption of the ionosphere. It also popped circuit breakers, street lights went out, burglar alarms rang, and power lines went down in Honolulu, about 800 miles away. In Nov. 1962, all above ground testing was halted and our testing and analysis was limited to underground testing, analysis of the existing atmospheric test data, nonnuclear simulation, and theoretical calculations.”

46 posted on 11/13/2011 1:29:53 PM PST by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop

An EMP 250 miles high over Chicago will take out the electrical grid for the entire USA. Damage to the huge step up and step down transformers could NOT be repaired.

75 to 90% death rate in USA. See 2008 EMP Commission Report to Congress. Chairman Graham personlly estimates a 80% death rate nation wide but almost 100% East of the Mississippi.

Then, from time to time, a few of our coastal cities will be nuked by bad people using the Club K container missile system that launches 4 250 mile cruise missiles from the deck of a ship, a truck or rail car.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIgvGpH2smY

Our mentality is like the old west, the bad guy shoots first then the good guy takes him out. But this time Matt Dillon faces cannon so big that it takes him out along with all of Dodge City. The good guys just die. The USA will be history.

See Shieldact.com

Iran’s Space Program is building to put multiple satellites at 250 plus miles above Earth. If they succeed they will take out the USA and Europe in hopes that world conflagration will bring about the coming of the 12th Imam. Meaning, THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT RETALIATION. MUTUAL ASSURED DESTRUCTION DOES NOT WORK WITH RELIGIOUS FANATICS.


47 posted on 11/13/2011 2:00:14 PM PST by Any Fate But Submission
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I don't doubt this, I doubt they'd go that far, but I hope we're prepared.

48 posted on 11/13/2011 3:05:23 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: familyop

If the missiles are in a fixed land base in Venezuela, we can find them and hit them. I don’t panic about that.


49 posted on 11/13/2011 3:48:53 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: grey_whiskers
I have considered it.

Iran doesn't have enough fission bombs to make anything more than a harrassment attack. An EMP is not a killer weapon. It's supposed to be a precursor to other bombs.

50 posted on 11/13/2011 3:54:06 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: GAB-1955
If the missiles are in a fixed land base in Venezuela, we can find them and hit them. I don’t panic about that.

However, if they are on a ship approaching -- or cruising on the margin of -- the U.S., there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

51 posted on 11/13/2011 3:58:47 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: GAB-1955
All it would take is one to *seriously* screw the electical system of the US.

And without that, short of extraordinary measures which I will NOT go into now, we're complete toast.

But even with those measures, we would be far too disorganized to even attempt any kind of a conventional counterattack.

NO cheers, unfortunately.

52 posted on 11/13/2011 3:59:33 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I don’t think a ship can get close enough, based on what I know, and I don’t think Iran has missiles that can hit the U.S. and a nuke. If an EMP attack were easy, it would have been done by now.


53 posted on 11/13/2011 4:10:42 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: GAB-1955
I don’t think a ship can get close enough, based on what I know, and I don’t think Iran has missiles that can hit the U.S. and a nuke. If an EMP attack were easy, it would have been done by now.

As I posted on another thread, Starfish Prime was at 240 miles. Iran has already orbited a satellite at 160 miles, and is in the works to orbit one at 22,000 miles.

I think that would do nicely.

Cheers!

54 posted on 11/13/2011 4:30:24 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: drewh
Our VKMDS (Viking Kitty Missile Defense System) would stop them in their tracks.


55 posted on 11/13/2011 4:42:15 PM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: TwoSwords

Thanks for the link. I still see an EMP as a significant threat.


56 posted on 11/13/2011 5:22:10 PM PST by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: drewh

Since we still have nuke subs and they must have retaliatory instructions, and communications would be reduced, I wouldn’t think that the current ‘commander-in-chief’ could do much to stop the trigger from being pulled after an EMP attack.


57 posted on 11/13/2011 5:56:24 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: drewh

Iran with a satellite launch capability has no further need for the “Scud in a Bucket” trick. Their military journals have published lengthy discussions about EMP, so they’re fully aware of the effect.

Also, Iran could not risk a test blast to see if its nukes work, since that would give away the fact that they’ve got them.

I suspect our first indication that Iran has built nukes is when one goes off in orbit above Pittsburgh.


58 posted on 11/13/2011 8:48:58 PM PST by DNME (The Eastern World, it is exploding ... Violence flaring, bullets loading ...)
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To: TwoSwords

I bet the Japanese were saying that right before Hiroshima.


59 posted on 11/14/2011 4:26:23 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Chode

Traceable how?


60 posted on 11/14/2011 4:28:06 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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