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CAIR: Santorum would racially profile Jesus
Yahoo! News/Daily Caller ^ | Nov. 23, 2011

Posted on 11/23/2011 8:24:50 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

The Council on American-Islamic Relations was not pleased by Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum’s call to profile Muslims as a way to combat terrorism during Tuesday night’s GOP debate on CNN.

Answering debate moderator Wolf Blitzer’s question about whether he would support ethnic or religious profiling, Santorum replied that Muslims should be profiled.

Santorum explained that he would support profiling “the folks who are most likely to be committing these crimes.”

“Obviously Muslims would be someone you’d look at, absolutely. Those are the folks — the radical Muslims — are the people who are committing these crimes by and large,” he said. “As well as younger males, I mean these are things, not exclusively, but these are things you profile to find your most likely candidate.”

CAIR took offense. In response, the Muslim advocacy group called on the Republican Party to repudiate Santorum’s remarks.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cair; democrats; islam; jesus; republicans; ricksantorum; santorum

1 posted on 11/23/2011 8:24:52 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Um.

I wouldn’t have a problem with that.


2 posted on 11/23/2011 8:25:32 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
" The Council on American-Islamic Relations was not pleased by Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum’s call to profile Muslims as a way to combat terrorism during Tuesday night’s GOP debate on CNN. "

Ohhh Boooo Hooo Hoooo !

Profiling radical violent Muslims is called keeping National Security !
3 posted on 11/23/2011 8:27:49 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Free Thinker NY,
Love ya but damn, where is the ultra revolting barf tag.


4 posted on 11/23/2011 8:28:15 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And find him harmless.

Their so-called “point”?


5 posted on 11/23/2011 8:29:19 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Council on American-Islamic Relations was not pleased...

Gosh another first in this whirlwind 3rd year of hope and change.

6 posted on 11/23/2011 8:29:47 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jonty30

I love Santorum. Its not politically correct and sad to say conservatives consider his endorsement of Specter more damaging than Gingrich’s endorsement of Scozzefava. At least Santorum is still a conservative. But no one wants him because hey, he isn’t “electable.” Well newsflash: neither is the newtbots’ flavor of the month, Gingrich.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 8:30:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It took a little grunting and groaning but Santorum finally coughed up the truth--if you are looking for terrorists, look in the moslem world. No doubt the ROP merchants will screech with indignation.
8 posted on 11/23/2011 8:32:14 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Free ThinkerNY

CAIR needs to take their @$$e$ back to the sewer they crawled out of and stay out of American politics. If we want any crap out of them, we’ll unscrew their heads and dip it out.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 8:33:26 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Oh, and btw, why would we profile Jesus again? He was no moslem he was a Jew. So far we don't have a problem with Jewish terrorists, and don't expect any. Just shows how bigotted moslems are.
10 posted on 11/23/2011 8:34:22 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: goldstategop

I really do not get the meme (from REPUBLICANS) about Santorum.

Santorum gets it.

Completely.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 8:35:13 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Agreed. When I heard that, I know who is exactly the kind of guy I want for President. Someone who drops the Bush Era ROP BS and treats Islam as the enemy! I’m tickled pink CAIR and the Left are upset!


12 posted on 11/23/2011 8:37:55 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet and he died. They believe he is in heaven with Allah.

How do they propose any human can profile Jesus if they believe he is in their heaven?

CAIR makes my head hurt, because they aren’t only petulant, they are unreasonable, deceitful Islamists that insult my Christian faith.


13 posted on 11/23/2011 8:42:24 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Oh yes . . . to them, Jesus was a "Muslim" and not a Jew. CAIR are terrorists.
14 posted on 11/23/2011 8:42:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Everyone is profiled every single day in one form of another. Ever taken a customer survey? They are literally profiling their customers.


15 posted on 11/23/2011 8:42:43 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Agreed: Screw CAIR; I think we should be profiling every one of their members and digging out the terrorist connections that will be found there. Arrest them all, try them and hang them in the public square; so their cowardly terrorist brothers can see that we are finally serious about this global war on all terrorists.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 8:43:30 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Even if Santorum doesn’t profile Jesus, he should continue to profile the Muslims—especially the members of CAIR.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 8:44:08 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is beyond stupid and evil.

There was no such thing as a muslim in the first century.

The statement made by CAIR denies the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ.

If the leaders of ANY group explicitly express that their group seeks the destruction of the United States or any other race or group within the it’s borders, and there is no credible dissension amongst the members of the group on such expression - and then attacks are actually carried out and there is no clear majority condemnation of the attacks but tacit approval - one can only conclude that the group is rife with people of the same mind as the hate mongers who lead it, and the group is, in fact, the threat that it claims to be.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 8:45:39 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He wants to profile MooHAMid, not Jesus.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 8:48:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How do you know if someone is a Muslim? Are airports going to start asking for religious affiliation when you buy a ticket?

He should of said profile middle-eastern men.


20 posted on 11/23/2011 8:49:53 PM PST by turn_to
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

bttt!


21 posted on 11/23/2011 8:50:13 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4&feature=related


22 posted on 11/23/2011 8:51:21 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: PieterCasparzen

There was no such thing as a muslim in the first century
We all know that, but that Koran claims that Jesus was a Muslim (as were his disciples) and even extends the same claim to Abraham and Ishmael. (Further on the Koran's view of Abraham: he helped Ishmael set up the Ka'aba in Mecca as a place of monotheistic pilgrimage, and per different interpretations, some "scholars" imply that Abraham was ordered by "Allah" to sacrifice Ishmael instead of Isaac.)
23 posted on 11/23/2011 8:57:00 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: hinckley buzzard
Would be convenient for Muzzies if others were terrorizing- like Tim McVeigh or Sein Fein, but they aren't. Around the world the Muzzie takes first place for deadlyness. Sucks to be them.

Something tells me CAIR and friends will bump into the 2nd amendment here, in America pretty soon. There's nothing in the Constitution that protects sabatoures, nothing. People are camped-out tonight to get a deal on a flat-screen on Black Friday. Imagine what they'd do to eliminate the TSA gropings and infringements that take place everyday at every airport? Or suasage-heads that take to blowing up malls?

America is coming back but it'll take a while. Right now, we have to deal with the sleeping bagger diversion. Who knows what tomorrow brings?

24 posted on 11/23/2011 9:04:53 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Free ThinkerNY. This has credibility, y’know, because Islamofascists are experts on Jesus. /s


25 posted on 11/23/2011 9:13:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

CAIR took offense...In other news... The Pope is Catholic.


26 posted on 11/23/2011 9:28:23 PM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: turn_to

How do you know if someone is a Muslim?....Look for the guys with their asses in the air just before boarding time. All of them seem to point their heads east.


27 posted on 11/23/2011 9:32:43 PM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Say, you look Jewish”


28 posted on 11/23/2011 9:50:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Olog-hai; PieterCasparzen
> Koran claims that Jesus was a Muslim (as were his disciples) and even extends the same claim to Abraham and Ishmael.

I'm not a religion scholar, and most certainly am not a Muslim, but I can read and interpret a little bit. Let me clarify something for you.

The word "Muslim" means "one who submits to the will of God (Allah)". As such, it may be applied to not only the practitioners of Islam the religion, but also to any of the pre-Islam prophets of the Bible, who are recognized by Islamic belief as having lived a life of "submission to the will of God". These include Jesus, Abraham, Adam, and others.

I don't think any modern Muslim would be so foolish as to claim that Jesus was a Muslim in the sense of "practitioner of Islam", but one can see how the name may be applied to pre-Islam individuals as a description of their submission to the will of God.

You might find this interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

"...Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim (i.e., one who submits to the will of God), as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" as commanded by God..."

29 posted on 11/23/2011 9:53:36 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think Jesus is the last person muslims should be referencing. Not their demonic Isa, but the real Jesus.


30 posted on 11/23/2011 9:53:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: dayglored

I don't think any modern Muslim would be so foolish as to claim that Jesus was a Muslim in the sense of "practitioner of Islam"
Surah 3:52.

The Koran calls Islam the religion of Abraham in many verses, too.
31 posted on 11/23/2011 10:06:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Santorum should reply, CAIR would behead Jesus.


32 posted on 11/23/2011 11:10:20 PM PST by Sea Parrot (%)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
CAIR took offense

Santorum is on target.

When you toss a shoe over the fence, the dog that yelps is the dog you hit.

33 posted on 11/24/2011 1:00:13 AM PST by marron
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To: Free ThinkerNY

While the Muslims would just send a suicide bomber to the sermon on the mount.


34 posted on 11/24/2011 1:21:06 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Religion is not race. Why are race and religion always conflated?


35 posted on 11/24/2011 3:24:52 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: dayglored

In principle, the Muslims would say so, but the reality is that, it is the same Muslims who have no problems attacking Christians, those who follow Jesus.


36 posted on 11/24/2011 4:57:52 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

CAIR should be the first ones rounded up.


37 posted on 11/24/2011 6:17:11 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Jesus wasn’t Muslim. Sorry CAIR


38 posted on 11/24/2011 6:24:29 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: dayglored

Yeah, maybe, but Muslims do not folow the will of God

“Allah’ is Satan, or one of his demons.


39 posted on 11/24/2011 6:28:21 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Biggirl

> In principle, the Muslims would say so, but the reality is that, it is the same Muslims who have no problems attacking Christians, those who follow Jesus.

Well, certainly Muslims and the Koran have a very distorted view of everything that came before them in Judeo-Christian tradition. I was only trying to figure out the meaning of a statement (that “Jesus was a Muslim”) which appears not only chronologically incorrect, but nonsense, to one like me who was raised Christian.


40 posted on 11/24/2011 7:18:19 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Jesus’ sacrificial death was the antitype of all the Old Testament sacrifices. He was foreshadowed in the book of Genesis in numerous places. He was the true Lamb, the true high priest, the true temple, the true scapegoat. There are over two hundred Old Testament prophecies fulfilled by Christ.

One important way that people in the time of Christ could identify Christ as the Messiah, was that his words and deeds did not contradict the Old Testament, but instead fulfilled it.

The New Testament was pointed to by the Old Testament - and of course the New Testament makes reference to the Old Testament throughout it’s text - and they reference each other in such a way that neither contradicts the other. There is in neither, however, any reference to any future teaching or testimony that will be delivered by any future prophet - the only prophecy yet to be fulfilled is regarding the final return of Christ. Of course, there are diverse eschatological interpretations, but none have anything to do with new prophets, divinely inspired Scripture or religions.

With the number of prophecies fulfilled in Christ in such a perfect way, it becomes obvious that through Holy Scripture and prophecy God does not withhold from his children what is essential to their salvation, but instead provides it. We are given the Word of God so that we might know how God wants us to worship and obey him, certainly not so that the text would leave us incomplete in these areas.

There is simply no exegetical basis for any other text claiming to be divinely inspired - since not only is there no recurring theme of some new text different prophet to come, none is even mentioned throughout the whole of the Bible. The koran and islam are simply not mentioned in Scripture. Therefore, they and any other book or teaching that comes along and claims to be another new teaching of God is false and a heresy. The Old Testament is loaded with examples of false Gods, idols, teachings, and religions and is abundantly clear that the children of God are not to worship or believe in them.

Exodus 20:

“1 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

13 Thou shalt not kill.

14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15 Thou shalt not steal.

16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not. “

And later in Deuteronomy 4:

“1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.

2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

3 Your eyes have seen what the LORD did because of Baalpeor: for all the men that followed Baalpeor, the LORD thy God hath destroyed them from among you.

4 But ye that did cleave unto the LORD your God are alive every one of you this day. “

...


41 posted on 11/24/2011 9:38:41 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thank you, your post is an excellent and thorough explication.


42 posted on 11/24/2011 11:12:15 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: All

On The Internet:

THE INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT ON TERRORISM

“Writings by Topic: The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)”

http://www.investigativeproject.org/topics/15/the-council-on-american-islamic-relations-cair


43 posted on 01/11/2012 11:38:14 PM PST by Cindy
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