[calex59]

but they would not have the right to vote."

Horse sh**! It would only be a matter of time before the dimwits passed a law giving them the right to vote by giving them full citizenship. This way leads only to more illegals swarming over the border in the hopes they will become "long term illegals with families".

This is amnesty pure and simple and this guy should not be elected President. We already have enough government officials unwilling to enforce immigration laws, we don't need another one.

[at bay]

Leniency to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

[Cheerio]

Horse sh**! It would only be a matter of time ....

ONCE they have been legal, how long do you think it will be before MALDEF, LA RAZA, ACLU, etc. run to the courts and challenge the newly minted "Legal Residents" inability to vote for the representative overseeing every aspect of their lives in America? Remember under the RAT party the Fed Govt is to be responsible for all the people - liberty and taking responsibility for themselves is out the door with this political party. FULL SCALE NANNYISM.

[caww]

It would only be a matter of time before the dimwits passed a law giving them the right to vote by giving them full citizenship

Well like it or not there has to be a start in getting illegals out of here and nobody else has offered a doable plan. Further, the idea that "In time" a law being passed giving them citzenship would take years just as even getting congress to move on ANY plan has been so.

I say it's well worth getting those out of here that Newt's plan would definately boot....the remainders can be delt with just as Newt's plan details.

Additionally, there could be implimented within the plan that those who accept "legality" forfeit their right to become a citizen because that's the deal for coming here illegally in the first place.....if they don't agree then they go home and apply for citizenship according to the laws established to come into this country.

[RockinRight]

Did you miss the part about sealing the border?

[businessprofessor]

Did you know that we have 30 million long term illegal residents? The amnesty is completely unworkable. The long term period will be defined so that almost all illegals qualify. The small group not eligible will produce phony documents. Leftist groups will strangle the courts with lawsuits. Compliant judges will issue injunctions to stop enforcement of deportations. Even if Gringrich wants a small amnesty, it will become a major amnesty dwarfing all other amnesties.

We do not need any law changes. We really do not need any more border enforcement although I support more physical barriers and perhasp some additional border resources. We need to enforce existing laws including stopping benefits for illegal aliens. We need an administration that will enforce existing laws and cooperate with states instead of suing them. Cutoff health care, tax credits, housing assistance, and many other forms of welfare.

Leniency can be granted for long term illegals with family through the deportation process. Individuals subject to deportation could provide evidence for amnesty. The burden of proof would be entirely on the detainee. There would not be any general processing of illegals. The deportation process would have a little flexibility to deal with long-term illegals. Conditions could be attached to limit the amnesty add more requirements.

[P-Marlowe]

Horse sh**! It would only be a matter of time before the dimwits passed a law giving them the right to vote by giving them full citizenship.

Congress can make citizens out of anybody they want any time they want. The president only has the power to enforce the laws that Congress passes. He has no power to give "amnesty" or "citizenship" to illegal aliens.

Unless congress passes Gingrich's proposal it will never go into effect.

Bush was 100% for Amnesty including citizenship. Gingrich is totally against giving any illegal alien citizenship... EVER!

Bush's plan never went into effect because Congress never passed it.

Obama is giving illegal aliens de-facto citizenship by not enforcing the immigration laws on the books and by not enforcing the election laws against illegal aliens that are voting.

We need to get rid of Obama. Shooting down Gingrich on this just issue simply ensures that Obama gets re-elected.

[maine-iac7]

Horse sh**! ...This way leads only to more illegals swarming over the border in the hopes they will become "long term illegals with families".

Horse sh**! back atcha!

The FIRST POINT in Newt's immigration plan has AWLAYS been 'CLOSE THE BORDER' Really close it. Then work on the rest, point by point.

In the meantime, the other candidates push out their sound-good talking points, skewed to get votes.

But here's an idea" Why don't YOU and they - and you insist that they - (the other candidates,) give us a detailed plan of just how you are going to round up 12+ million illegals and deport them? Indeed, how do you even find them?

There is no such plan because it can't be done.

So, we take the situation that is and work from there. Newt has a plan to get a handle on who they and are and HOW TO KEEP TRACK of them - by taking it out of the gov'ts hands and giving the task to people who know how to keep track of things.

Nair-do-wells, recent crossovers, criminals are deported FAST, no catch and release 'on their word they'll go home.

Those who are otherwise law abiding, hard working, long time in country, raising responsible families can stay as long as they stay thus - BUT - will NOT get citizenship nor can they vote. And that can be verified with the tracking program Newt would put in place.

Also, he would crack down on employers who look the other way. They would be, finally, held accountable.

With Newt's plan, we would indeed see "to more illegals swarming over the border" - the OTHER WAY.

One by one, as Newt's plan got implemented, a new wave of illegals would be getting outta dodge. Look how many picked up and skedaddles outta Doge (Arizona) when they announced the intention to check people for citizenship whenever someone was pulled over for a traffic violation.

You are either woefully or deliberately uninformed - I'm guessing Newt isn't your horse in the race, to begin with. Whyn't you tell us YOUR horse's plan - detailed, step by step plan?

The difference between Newt and the others is the he - I think naively - trusts the American people to be able to think.

I guess Rush was right, Wolf and gang huddled for days before the debate trying to find a strategy to trip Newt up - including practicing how they thought he might answer a certain question - and the, in the 30-60 seconds where He could only scratch the surface, they could "get a gotcha" - and their accomplices , most notably Bachman, would grab it and run with it - as would the media. (She already had her people getting the word out before they were even out of the building. And she KNOWS the truth. She's attacked EVERY other candidate, one by one - oh, except Romney. Hmmm - playing shill in return for VP or other big slot? (She's starting to hiss)

Unlike Newt, they know the American Sheeple will mostly believe what ever talking point they're fed.

It works - even in Free Republic. How many of you actually do a search on what Newt's stance really is on programs? How many even have bothered to go to Newt.org and read his plans. Unlike any other candidates links, his is detailed and precise...not just throw away promises.

Myself, I'm hoping - probably against hope - that at least more FR's and conservatives will do their homework ( and just listening to media printed words and hype is not due diligence - that's an F" grade.)

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

No doubt, there are places that don’t require you to show ID to vote and the illegals find out where those places are pretty quick. In my town, they require ID. When I loved two towns over, they got pissed when I pulled out my drivers license. “Put that away, you don’t need that.” My 4 year old daughter could’ve voted in that place.

[Publius6961]

We already have enough government officials unwilling to enforce immigration laws, we don't need another one.

Unfortunately, to date, we have NO candidate who has declared unequivocally and convincingly a commitment to either enforce the U.S. immigration laws, repeal them, or to apply Temporal Reciprocity.

[xzins]

Here the guy says what he wants to do, it is not amnesty, and you refuse to listen.

What if folks did the same with Cain? Ignore what he says and proposes, just go with what you feel like saying.

Did you know that Cain actually believes in 20-30-40 and not 999?

[Mike Darancette]

Horse sh**! It would only be a matter of time before the dimwits passed a law giving them the right to vote by giving them full citizenship.

I'd give them citizenship if they left the country and came back legally.

But I think that what Newt is offering is about the best we will get.