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Newest Cain Accuser Has History of Financial Trouble
ABC NEWS ^ | 11-28-11 | Ross

Posted on 11/28/2011 7:24:46 PM PST by VinL

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To: faucetman
“1. He had a 13 year “friendship” with a woman, yet oddly his wife knew nothing of her existence. If I had a 13 year “friendship” with someone of the opposite sex that I never mentioned to my wife, I know well-and-good what would be going on.

2. They called each other, according to one account, over 60 times in a 4-month period. For those of you who can’t do the math, that’s once every other day - for months on end. That’s a pretty odd “friendship” with a woman that your wife knows nothing about, isn’t it? Oh - and at least one of those calls was at a strange hour to be calling a “friend” of the opposite sex - 4:30AM. The fact that his wife did not know he was talking on the phone in the middle of the night with a female “friend” raises more red flags.

3. Cain said something about wanting to help the woman out financially. Once again, here is a man who has a 13-year relationship with a woman that his wife knows nothing about, and to whom he is (or is apparently seeking to) giving money to. Red flags all around, folks. But that also works against Cain’s credibility, for if the woman was indeed emotionally unstable, what the heck was he doing having a 13-year relationship with her, calling her in the middle of the night, and admitting that he wanted to help her out financially? Sheer altruism, i.e., out of the goodness of his heart?”

All you Male Cain supporters out there. Have your wife read the above posted by tjd1454. Then ask her if this were you instead of Cain, what would she say to you about it?

“It’s ok honey, I trust you”. “I know you two are just “friends”. “How sweet of you to give her our money”. “How nice of you to console her over the phone late at night”. “I don’t mind that you had a SECRET, FEMALE, friend for over thirteen years, how nice”. “Is she free for church and dinner this Sunday? I’d love to meet her”.

I’m sure your wife’s comment is in there somewhere, right?

Thanks for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone on this thread. For bringing it up I have been accused of being a closet Perry or Newt supporter, which is totally false, not to mention a cheap shot by those who do not wish to deal with the fundamental issue of whether we as Freepers will give blind, unquestioning allegiance to "our guy" and stick our heads in the sand.

I am NOT assuming that the allegations are true. I sincerely hope they are not. However, we need to sort though it all and wait to see what other evidence emerges which will hopefully vindicate him.

141 posted on 11/28/2011 10:45:13 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Fred

Went and read it, thanks.


142 posted on 11/28/2011 10:45:52 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Fred

Exactly, Fred.


143 posted on 11/28/2011 10:46:16 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: samantha

Ohh yeah I already forgot about her business partner. Really good point.


144 posted on 11/28/2011 10:46:30 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Both rivals of HC have icky stuff that the rats and media,Soros,Obummer will have a field day with lasting weeks or months.
145 posted on 11/28/2011 10:48:14 PM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: federal__reserve
I'm certainly willing to "go there" with Newt. Are you willing to "go there" (if the facts determine) with Cain? Of course we know more about Newt's behavior than we do about Cain's, concerning whom the allegations are relatively recent.

Let's hope it doesn't come to this, but IF in six months or so, after the facts have come out for better or worse, will you be willing to "go there" regarding Cain? In other words, will you apply the same standards to Cain as to other candidates?

146 posted on 11/28/2011 10:50:14 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454

My friend, the only problem with your analysis, is that you don’t have the facts. What you say may or may not be plausible, but it’s only conjecture. On that basis, there can be a myriad of explanations.


147 posted on 11/28/2011 10:51:59 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: samantha
Sorry, I do not believe you would post this many times with no horse in this race.

The same goes for you. Apply the same judgment to yourself that you apply to others.

148 posted on 11/28/2011 10:52:28 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Fred
She might be a switch hitter. In my police experience Lesbians were extremely possessive and very violent when relationships went bad.
149 posted on 11/28/2011 10:56:10 PM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: tjd1454
Read my tag line. I was for SP, now for HC. Got it now.
150 posted on 11/28/2011 10:59:27 PM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: faucetman

I’m sorry, but I must respectfully disagree.

It is entirely possible to have a friendship with the opposite SEX. SEX is not always the driving component in a friendship. I find it interesting that you feel the way you do. It is surely not unique, just revealing.

My issue is that Mrs. Cain was not apparently privy to the “friendship”.


151 posted on 11/28/2011 10:59:52 PM PST by berdie
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To: federal__reserve
I want my president to improve the economy so that my kids and grand kids can get decent jobs. Newt’s adultery or Cain’s girl friend does not affect our lives. We maintain our moral standards without help from any candidate running for president.

Of course we "maintain our moral standards": that's not the question. The point is whether the moral compass (or lack of it) of our leaders matters. Historically many Americans would say that it does. I'm sure you can think of numerous politicians and candidates whose careers have been ended because of sexual indiscretions. (of course, we can also think of examples of those who "got away with it" because they were protected by the media, etc.)

And rightly so, because personal integrity is an important personal quality that has a long history within the American ethos. If a man or woman lacks integrity in their personal lives, Americans realize that this affects how they conduct themselves in public office.

152 posted on 11/28/2011 11:01:35 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454

Personally, like I said, a candidates personal life does not affect our family’s lives. So long as they are not involved in something illegal which can be subject to blackmail, then that becomes a national security issue. Naturally we yearn for a president who is pure as snow, but that would probably eliminate all good candidates.

Right now, the country is in deeper economic problems than most people realize. Have people not seen the riots in Greece? When a country goes broke, all hell breaks lose. We are in desperate need of a “LEADER” who understands economy and how to create real jobs. Someone who has first hand experience in main street economy. A professional politician will be the last person we need at this time.


153 posted on 11/28/2011 11:02:01 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: VinL

In this economy not many folks not having what could fairly be described as financial difficulties


154 posted on 11/28/2011 11:09:05 PM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: tjd1454

The difference between Newt & Herman:

Newt’s adulteries are well known and Obama’s re-election war room probably has all the necessary information cocked and loaded. If he becomes the nominee, get ready to be bombarded.

Not a single one of Cain’s accusations have been proven with evidence. So I will give him benefit of doubt until proven otherwise.


155 posted on 11/28/2011 11:09:44 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: federal__reserve

ANOTHER STALKER FROM THE ASYLUM

A sexual harrassment suit from 2001.

Bankruptcy.

Multiple evictions.

Lawsuit/restraining order pursuant to harrassment, stalking, character defamation.

Unemployed.


156 posted on 11/28/2011 11:09:59 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: VinL
My friend, the only problem with your analysis, is that you don’t have the facts. What you say may or may not be plausible, but it’s only conjecture. On that basis, there can be a myriad of explanations.

Your comment lacks force as a criticism as it may be applied equally to everyone posting on this thread.

Those that take the opposing view and reject out of hand the possibility that Cain may be guilty of inappropriate behavior, are also "guilty" of "conjecture" and of not having "the facts." We simply do not know at this point what the truth is.

I would be perfectly happy to learn that these latest accusation are indeed unsubstantiated and false. The question is whether those who appear to be giving blind, unquestioning allegiance to Cain are willing to follow the "facts" wherever they may lead?

157 posted on 11/28/2011 11:10:04 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Brilliant

“If we end up with Romney, it will be a choice between a GOP liberal and a Dem liberal.”

A) If enough of us can agree and vote for someone else, we don’t have to “end up with Romney”; B) BHO is much, much worse than just “a Dem liberal”.

“How do you handle that?”

By working on as many people as possible to join us in voting AGAINST the America-hating, illegal, Marxist, Muslim, traitorous occupier in our White House - that’s how.

No contest or quandary there - BHO must be ousted at all costs. The survival and safety of our Republic depend on it.


158 posted on 11/28/2011 11:40:57 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: VinL; indianrightwinger

“Wolf asked him specifically if there was sex- Cain say “no!”. Then, was there an affair? “No!” I’m certain of that, but the video is online—whatever Wolf’s show is”

You’re right - I just saw it again (on Red Eye) 5 minutes ago. No sex, no affair, he said.


159 posted on 11/29/2011 12:19:45 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: federal__reserve

“Is it ABnormal to have a friend’s number on your cell phone? Are you implying only numbers you can have on your cell phone must be of the same gender as you?”

I think the issues are the number of calls (61?) and the times of day they were made, both to and from Herman. However, as someone said on another thread, if the texts/calls had contained anything salacious, the media would have been all over that by now.


160 posted on 11/29/2011 12:39:17 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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