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Certifigate : Donald Trump now casts even more doubt on Obama
WND ^ | DECEMBER 5, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/06/2011 12:01:25 AM PST by RobinMasters

The mainstream media are "protecting" Barack Obama's "unconstitutional" tenure in the White House, refusing to investigate allegations that he fails to meet the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen," according to flamboyant billionaire Donald Trump.

In a conference call today with reporters, WND asked Trump why, if he believes defeating Obama is so significant in 2012, doesn't he use his influence to mount a formal investigation into Obama's eligibility.

There have been allegations since long before Obama's election in 2008 that he is not a "natural-born citizen," a requirement imposed on no other official.

Obama's critics believe that at the time the Constitution was written, the Founders understood "natural-born citizen" to mean the offspring of two citizens.

Obama has claimed he was born in Hawaii, but birth documentation he's released has been judged by a number of document, imaging and graphics experts to be fake.

Others believe he would fail to qualify no matter his place of birth, because his father, Barack Obama Sr., was a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Obama Jr.'s birth. They allege the Founders precluded dual citizens by specifically demanding a "natural-born citizen."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bc; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; noaccountability; notransparency; obama; patriottrump; trump; undocumentedobama
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To: El Sordo

[ If that’s how you want to think, there’s not much anyone can do for you. ]

You’re so kind to me.. Well God bless Me..


81 posted on 12/06/2011 3:20:31 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: El Sordo
Did they change your place of birth?

No, but I didn't leave the town I was born in. Also, My state doesn't have a law such as Hawaii does, which will issue a birth certificate to people not born here.

How many states would have such a law?

83 posted on 12/06/2011 3:28:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: F15Eagle
I read it quickly but it closes with (paraphrased) “he remains a citizen for better or worse unless he voluntarily relinquishes” - I did not click on the sublinks but saw no immediate reference to children - but I skimmed it quickly - the vote overturned this argument? It sounded like they disagreed - thanks

As with many legal cases, the examples do not always fit exactly the current circumstances being discussed, but are merely indicative.

Perez was born in Texas to two Mexican Nationals. As a child he was taken back to Mexico where he lived pretty much his whole life. He would occasionally come into the United States for work, but for the most part he lived in Mexico as a Mexican, and even voted in Mexican elections.

He did not formally renounce his citizenship, but he admitted that he stayed in Mexico to avoid being drafted into the US Army and that he had voted in Elections.

The point is, his parents put him into a situation where he lost his US citizenship, and he didn't do anything overtly himself to cause it's loss. (except perhaps talking too much. :) )

84 posted on 12/06/2011 3:33:58 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Will birth certificates issued by the State of Hawaii to Hawaiian state citizens show anything other than their actual place of birth?


85 posted on 12/06/2011 3:37:19 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: F15Eagle
Thanks. Did his have range to go from CONUS to Hawaii? I don’t remember what he flew there but there was a claim it had some sort of extended range.

Regular ETOPS 757's fly west coast to Hawaii and east coast to western Europe with a full passenger load all the time. It's quite possible that the chartered campaign 757 was equipped with auxiliary tanks. It's also possible that they flew to Hawaii with less than a full load of passengers and luggage.

88 posted on 12/06/2011 4:20:34 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: F15Eagle
It was reported as -28a if that provides useful add’l info

That just means it was a 757-200 configured for and originally sold to First Choice Airways. The two characters after the 2 are customer codes. Pan Am's code was 21, so a 707-300 delivered to Pan Am would have been a 707-321. American Airlines is 23, United is 22, Continental was 24, Braniff was 27, British Airways is 36, etc.

Boeing Customer Codes.

90 posted on 12/06/2011 4:47:03 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: SatinDoll
I remember early on in the lead up to the 2008 Democrat primary, Bill Richardson referred to Obama as an "immigrant."

Come to think of it, Richardson should not have been running because he was not a natural born citizen. He is a citizen by birthright, but his Mother was a Mexican. His father was mixed parentage New England Yankee and Mexican.

92 posted on 12/06/2011 8:16:21 PM PST by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2011)
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To: circumbendibus

Correct.

Richardson was speaking Spanish to an audience, and ssid that Obama is an immigrant. The Democrats knew what they had in Obama, and have lied, deceived, and committed treason in order to get him into the White House.


93 posted on 12/06/2011 8:21:14 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: El Sordo
BHO became an American citizen when he was born in Hawaii.

The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

94 posted on 12/06/2011 9:18:17 PM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Sonny M

He won’t release it because he probably barely passed. If records are released they will be scrubbed clean and show a straight A student. I’m willing to bet on it.


95 posted on 12/06/2011 9:21:05 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: dandiegirl
He won’t release it because he probably barely passed. If records are released they will be scrubbed clean and show a straight A student. I’m willing to bet on it.

I'm more surprised he hasn't done it already, that said, in his autobiography, he does state that he wasn't a good student.

Yet, that never stops the media (and sadly, even many conservatives) from professing or believing that he is somehow "book smart" or think that he was some kind of good student or high achieving academic ....

96 posted on 12/06/2011 11:23:19 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: RobinMasters; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

ping to trump making waves again..


97 posted on 12/07/2011 8:28:51 PM PST by bitt ( Obama is so unpopular now that the Kenyans say he was definitely born in Hawaii)
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To: bitt

It might seem quite a few people at this site only bad mouth Trump. They don’t seem to understand he can have his place in this current scheme of things. If it would turn out by his efforts he sponsors successfully those that can expose the Kenyan for what he really is as far as being UN-eligible for the office of the POTUS. Then he has served his nation well.
In that capacity I give Trump a thumbs up.


98 posted on 12/07/2011 10:10:46 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Sven you are being summoned.

While you’re here, (or on one of the other nbc threads today)
maybe you could fill in the blanks a little more of what is going on,
for example with what Sheriff Joe is hinting he is uncovering

(like Obama being himself an illegal alien)


99 posted on 12/07/2011 10:15:49 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Seizethecarp
The most likely GOP candidate to go off the reservation and attack Obama’s BC is Perry, who has nothing to lose and was brave enough to invite an endorsement by Arpaio in spite of Arpaio’s public declarations that his posse has found something “shocking” about Obama’s eligibility.

That's what I was thinking too. Does anyone know if Trump's favorite candidate (other than himself) is Perry? Because Perry is now in good with Arpaio, and Perry must know what Arpaio is close to announcing.

And if Perry is close to Trump, then maybe THATS why Trump is finally choosing to NOW make waves again.

100 posted on 12/07/2011 10:20:24 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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