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1 posted on 12/16/2011 1:19:15 PM PST by Doogle
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Call me when they charge Senator Dodd and Representative Frank.

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2 posted on 12/16/2011 1:22:34 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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Weren’t Clinton cronies Jaime Gorelik and Franklin Raines part of this mess as well?


3 posted on 12/16/2011 1:23:44 PM PST by NEPA (Give me liberty, not debt)
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I sure wish somebody had the authority and the nads to go after the Fast & Furious bunch too.


5 posted on 12/16/2011 1:26:27 PM PST by umgud
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Hopefully this is just the beginning and depositions, investigations and maybe plea bargaining will lead to a good hard look at the real culprits; Franklin Raines, James Johnson and Jamie Gorelick who not only caused considerable disaster, but looted the place to pad their own pockets to the tune of almost $150 Million.


6 posted on 12/16/2011 1:27:41 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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If Obma wanted to be real popular with the American people, in the first year he needed to do three things, stabilize the financial meltdown (unfortunately TARP and GM/Chrysler bailout was needed to do that to stem panic and adding 1 million to unemployment), two help businesses free up cash (less regs and less taxes) so they can pay down debt and employ people, and finally go after the Wall Street and gov officials responsible for the mortgage fraud and reckless behavior that caused the meltdown. Obama did the first because Wall Street bankers applied pressure and the unions applied pressure, but he made the second worst with more taxes and gov programs and finally hesitated to go after Wall Street and gov officials because he needed them for donations and under advisement from Treasury not to demoralize the banking industry with prosecutions in order to get their help to resolve the crisis. In the end we had higher unemployment and one hell of a pissed off public as the truth to the crisis unfolds.


7 posted on 12/16/2011 1:28:26 PM PST by Fee
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Franklin Raines is not among the fall guys, of course. That would be too close to you-know-who.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 1:32:28 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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” civil fraud charges “

CIVIL??? That means, what, a slap on the wrist and a small fine??

Question - does this preclude criminal fraud charges in the future??


11 posted on 12/16/2011 1:41:44 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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The United States Justice Department, Janet Reno, Bwany Fwank, Barack Obama, and the courts colluded to force lending institutions to make bad loans.

Fannie May and Freddie Mac didn’t have a choice here. They and banks and other lending institutions were forced to grant these non-repayable loans.

When court convictions started coming down, the industry was forced to stop red-lining, stop enforcing old lending guidelines, stop protecting the liquidity of their institutions.

The idea that these top executives somehow conspired to defraud folks is outlandish, pure evil. Here’s why.

When the government forced these institutions to grant mortgage loans to people who couldn’t pay them back, they were in effect saying that those loans were as justified as any other. Judges agreed. They said that the lending institutions were not being fair. They said there had been prior racial and economic bias, they were putting an end to.

Once these lending institutions had made loans they knew couldn’t be paid back, they bundled the paper and sold it to other entities. They sold this paper, just like they had the paper covering sound loans before.

The government stated there were no valid grounds to deny these loans. They made this finding.

Now they’re trying to say these executive should have known they were bad loans.

This would be comical, if it didn’t involve what verges on or actually goes over the line of Executive, Legislative, Judicial branch, and private sector criminality.

There was no justification whatsoever for making the case these lending institutions were acting in bad faith by not making the loans before. There is no justification now for claiming they were acting in bad faith by extending those loans. And if an institution is forced to make a certain type of loan over their objections, it’s insane for the government to state those who sold the paper to others, was acting in a criminal manner.

If they want to prosecute someone, they should round up the Executive Branch, Legislative Branch, Judicial Branch co-conspirators and their private sector comrades. Then prosecute away to their hearts content.

It is shameful what they are trying to do to these executives. This borders right up against gulag level activity here.


13 posted on 12/16/2011 1:47:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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17 posted on 12/16/2011 2:06:15 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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Looks like Franklin Raines gets another affirmative action E-ticket....


18 posted on 12/16/2011 2:11:21 PM PST by clintonh8r (Living well is no longer the best revenge. Revenge is now the best revenge.)
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Does this mean the details of Gingrich’s “lobbying/history lessons” at Fannie Mae will be exposed?


20 posted on 12/16/2011 2:27:28 PM PST by tennmountainman
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They will be able to afford the best lawyer that money can buy with the huge bonuses that Freddie and Fannie gave them


22 posted on 12/16/2011 2:33:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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What the hell about Raines? What about Barney Frank?

Call me when the SEC gets serious.


23 posted on 12/16/2011 2:40:09 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny ("Fair share" are the last two words I hear before I stop taking someone seriously.)
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and the RATS, take another one in the.........HA ha!!!

25 posted on 12/16/2011 3:01:56 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Let me know when (as if!) they get around to charging Senator Dodd, Representative Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, James Johnson, and Jaime Gorlick - all the real masters of this disaster. Fat chance from this One World Socialist crew.


27 posted on 12/16/2011 3:22:43 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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Still waiting on Cuomo to get indited....


28 posted on 12/16/2011 3:29:21 PM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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Did Barney’s former boyfriend get nailed?

Also, I don’t see Franklin Raines listed - Fannie had to restate its reserve by $9 Billion as a result of his activities as Chairmen and CEO - also he got a golden parachute worth $240 million, returning only $50 million as an outcome of an investigation into misleading financial statements. So, $190 million needs to be collected from him, right?

Although, I would imagine that Obama now has some of the Raines parachute funds for the 2012 run.


29 posted on 12/16/2011 3:48:59 PM PST by motivated
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What's posted is awfully brief. If you really want to get into this, visit the SEC web site here. Lots of details.

But, as I read read the charges, it sounds to me like they will just get a slap on the wrist. When oh when are we going to start locking up these criminals?

30 posted on 12/16/2011 3:50:59 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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Now we know why Bwaney’s running for cover!


32 posted on 12/16/2011 4:01:23 PM PST by Evergolightly (Ones conclusions are founded in the path traveled.)
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That’s fine, but Barney “Butt-Lovers Popcorn” Frank should be first in this line.


34 posted on 12/16/2011 4:16:44 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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